AIBU That we learn to accept COVID is here to stay!

[Jakie7700]

That now a massive number is double vaccinated those who want to be and that teenagers have started to be offered them, it seems so ridiculous that kids are still losing out on school because they are being sent home as they have a minor cold with minor cough. Covid will still be around in years to come, so will children still be sent home then with a mild cough due to colds?

Many missed days of school waiting for PCR results, parents usually mothers missing work over and over. Nobody seemed to care two years back when these same children were spreading flu, chicken pox etc which can all kill or cause serious complications both in adults and children.

Nothing is going to change you can get COVID again like a cold. Just last week I heard of two friends kids being sent home because of mild cough (coughed three/four times the whole day) missed days of school waiting for results only to be negative and then told this will happen every time they have a cough which as most will know in primary children will be alot over winter! These same parents who have nearly lost jobs due to having to juggle childcare through lockdowns. Surely it is just time to accept COVID is isn't going anywhere and stop making kids espeically suffer.

And last time I PCR'd my DS, we had to stand outside in the rain for close to 2 hours waiting for a test surrounded by families who had at least one covid positive family member waiting

If you send a child in unwell, then you have to take it on the chin if the school then call you to collect them and advise a test.
Don't be blaming the school. It's all part and parcel of the shit that is a pandemic.
"Fairness" never came into it.

Children are missing school because they are symptomatic. In many cases, this translates to being ill enough not to be able to do whatever work is set for them. They're therefore no worse off than they would be if they were off with flu/noro/migraine/whatever.

Also just to point out does anyone care about SEN children with sensory needs that will point refuse or have a meltdown at a PCR. What happens then each time they cough do they have to isolate for 10 days?
So how much school do they miss espeically when by the school them self class them as vulnerable.

Gosh, this takes me right back to last year!
OP, have you ever been worried about such children before now?

@CallmeHendricks
I am not blaming the school they are in a difficult position. But people are blaming parents saying they are wrong to send a child in if they are worried about losing their job.

@CallmeHendricks
Why am I not allowed to be concerned about children missing school and SEN children missing school too?

Anyone is "wrong" to send in a child with potential Covid symptoms until they have been cleared by the appropriate test.

[quote Jakie7700]@CallmeHendricks
Why am I not allowed to be concerned about children missing school and SEN children missing school too?[/quote]
I didn't say you were "not allowed to be."
I asked if you'd ever been concerned before it now suiting your argument to mention them.
Trust me, no one is more aware of the needs of children with SEN than teachers in schools. Pandemic or not.

@CallmeHendricks
That may be so but it is also wrong to make parents choose between that and losing their jobs they should never be in such a situation. Or children with SEN to isolate each time as they can't do a PCR.

You live in a world where you obviously do not have to make such choices which is great for you. I see this all the time and this winter will just be too much for some people who are not as fortunate as you.

God this is such a boring repetitive thread.

Learning to live with covid means learning to live a different life now. Things ARE different. Things won't go back to the way they were before. That's learning to live with it, not wanting to pretend it doesn't exist and bleating on about 'the children'.

The more people who keep their symptomatic children off school until they know they don't have covid, the more the students with sensory SEN are protected from possibly covid.

@CallmeHendricks
A child in my family has SEN so yes I have always been concerned regarding covid and how difficult it has been for them. So no it is not to suit any argument you feel I have. So how do you feel about SEN children who can't for sensory needs take a PCR having to miss 10 days each time they may have a cough over winter?

Personally I think it was always a dick move to send your child to school with a cough/cold/flu, throwing their germs around like confetti

To be fair, I've had a cough for more than 3 weeks now, and still going. If I missed work for a month because of a cough (from a mild cold), I'm sure my workplace, the pupils and their parents would all have something to say about it! Do people really not go to work if they have a cough or cold (i totally agree with your point about the flu), or not send their children into school? Obviously after a PCR test, and I'm not talking about feeling really bad, but I have a cough and the remnants of a cold and I feel great.

I have, however, been PCR tested a couple of times, and am doing daily LFTs. Back to the main point of the thread - it only takes a day or two to get a PCR test in most cases so that's really not the end of the world, and a small price to pay. Covid isn't just a little cold.

@purpleflowerlegs
You do realise you do not have to read or post sweetheart. Have a good night x

"In the real world most people whether right or wrong would rather send their child in than lose their job/homes and not be able to provide the basics for them. It is a fact that I have seen unfortunately."

Everyone posting on here lives in the real world

If said parents s if that child that in and they have a cough or temperature they will quite rightly be sent home or spend the day isolated from other pupils as the school has a duty of care to other kids and their parents who will also face losing jobs and homes etc. Then you have supply teachers and cleaners etc most of whom work for agencies and won't be paid for 2 weeks if they catch covid and let's face it are far more likely to be symptomatic.

If we really cared we would insist the government provided filters etc for classrooms as many many other countries have done.

Ignoring covid measures under the guise of life bing with it just means more kids miss school, more staff are off. Many more people suffer financially. That not to mention kids I've known who have taken covid home and then lost parents or grandparents.

It is not as simple as "if you allow kids to be sent home then you don't care about them or their families losing their homes".

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@Jakie7700, It's irrelevant how I feel about it. Those are the guidelines put in place to try to limit the spread of a notifiable disease.

@Jakie7700

Also just to point out does anyone care about SEN children with sensory needs that will point refuse or have a meltdown at a PCR. What happens then each time they cough do they have to isolate for 10 days? So how much school do they miss espeically when by the school them self class them as vulnerable.

In our case as I wanted my child to return to his ( special ) school I had had to hold him down whilst my dh swabbed his nostrils ,it wasn't pleasent but at least he could return to school ,sadly in his school there are some pupils who have profound and multiple learning disabilities they are on oxygen ,tube fed etc so school absolutely need a negative result before children with symptoms can return

I totally understand what you are saying OP.

[quote Jakie7700]@purpleflowerlegs
You do realise you do not have to read or post sweetheart. Have a good night x[/quote]
Being patronising isn't the way to win people round to your way of thinking. Don't post unless you want opinions.

I have a friend who obsessives over covid. Happy to isolate one of her daughters in her bedroom for 10 days! the other child she kept home from school only 2 days after starting a new school, caused so much anxiety and distress - I would definitely have prioritised my childrens health over others - isn't that a mothers natural instinct?

[quote Jakie7700]@CallmeHendricks
That may be so but it is also wrong to make parents choose between that and losing their jobs they should never be in such a situation. Or children with SEN to isolate each time as they can't do a PCR.

You live in a world where you obviously do not have to make such choices which is great for you. I see this all the time and this winter will just be too much for some people who are not as fortunate as you.[/quote]
In my last post you will see I'm the parent of a child who has significant SEN he' has severe autism and learning disabilities ,he's at a school for children with severe learning disabilities some children's have profound and multiple learning disabilities , thankfully my child despite his disabilities is generally healthy it's a clear choice I either have to test him howwver hard this is or he stays off for ten days I really don't want the more clinically vulnerable children to be more at risk than they have too

@purpleflowerlegs
Yes with your so original this is a boring thread.
I am not trying to get anyone to do anything. I am allowed a opinion. If you find the post boring which you clearly do, then why waste your time posting on it.

What pisses me off most about these endless threads whinging about disruption to education for kids when it's about covid is the complete lack of interest in the threads about how CAMHS has basically collapsed under the weight of child mental health referrals or the fact that Rishi is about to give schools the square root of fuck all in the spending review for catch-up funding when schools are already on their knees when it comes to funding.

Some people only seem to give a shit about children and education when they can use them to moan about covid restrictions. Any other time - tumbleweed.

[quote Jakie7700]@CallmeHendricks
Why am I not allowed to be concerned about children missing school and SEN children missing school too?[/quote]
How vocally concerned were you about send children missing school before Covid hit?