Is everyone getting boosters?

[Dancerinthedark01]

Are we all meant to have the one?

If so are people here keen to have one?

I had mine a few weeks ago. I'm 62 and in the US. I feel much better about going into winter now that I've had it.

If you have had covid natural immunity will last years. Mike yeadon speaks about it a lot but he's discredited from mainstream narrative even though he's a highly intelligent world class scientist. You'll find his videos on bitchute, rumble etc

Had it 10 days ago. No side effects.
But what other option is there?
Let covid rip through the entire population?
Survival of the fittest?
I'd take the jab over this every time.

@Scarcity20

If you have had covid natural immunity will last years. Mike yeadon speaks about it a lot but he's discredited from mainstream narrative even though he's a highly intelligent world class scientist. You'll find his videos on bitchute, rumble etc

How do you know that if it hasn't been about for years yet? Is he not an anti vaxxer anyway?

covid.joinzoe.com/post/do-i-need-a-covid-vaccine-if-ive-had-covid
Real world data gathered through Zoe app shows vaccination offers better protection than natural infection. Full vaccination after a previous Covid infection gives particularly good protection.

Are those people who were in group 6 during the first roll out eligible for the booster? I can't seem to figure it out from the guidance, there are specific conditions listed but they don't seem to completely align with the group 6 original category. Does anyone know?

And if I'm offered it will definitely take it. It helps that I don't seem to get reactions to injections though- not sure why but it makes it a no brainer for me. I had no reaction to first two except quite a deep sleep after the first. I never react adversely to flu jabs either. Like not even a sore arm!

I think that natural immunity is being discredited at worst and at best ignored because there seems to be an agenda, for some reason, to push vaccines.

@Scarcity20

If you have had covid natural immunity will last years. Mike yeadon speaks about it a lot but he's discredited from mainstream narrative even though he's a highly intelligent world class scientist. You'll find his videos on bitchute, rumble etc

Forgive me, but this is rubbish. The data we have now clearly shows that vaccine immunity is more uniform, durable and effective at preventing symptomatic infection.

COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination

"Natural immunity can be spotty. Some people can react vigorously and get a great antibody response. Other people don't get such a great response," says infectious diseases expert Mark Rupp, MD. "Clearly, vaccine-induced immunity is more standardized and can be longer-lasting.

In one study, 36% of people infected with covid had no immunity at all.

Predictors of Nonseroconversion after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(21)00407-0/fulltext

This is a bit more detailed - and gives different information to the above.

Which science are we to believe?

The point of the article in the Lancet is that natural immunity should be effective against a broader range of viral variants because it generates antibodies against molecular features not present on the spike protein. I think that's a reasonable conclusion, as is the point that as varients drift from the original virus, vaccines tailored to the new strains will be needed. It doesn't draw a conclusion about the duration of immunity with either.

It's not an either or question. The only way to get natural immunity is to be infected. Infection with no prior immunity can make you very ill, and leave you with an unpredictable level of immunity going forward.

The graphic I attached is from the British Society for Immunology:

COVID-19 immunity: Natural infection compared to vaccination

The UK-CIC is looking at what parts of the immune system are involved in generating a protective response against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, as well as after vaccination. It's likely that for most people vaccination against COVID-19 will induce more effective and longer lasting immunity than that induced by natural infection with the virus. Even if you've had COVID-19, you're recommended to get the vaccine because it will boost whatever immunity you have from natural infection.

That's why public health authorities recommend everyone get the vaccine, regardless of prior infection status.

@morticiamarkle

Personally I am not comfortable with this. They're working it out as they go along.

Of course they are... it would be childishly naive and unrealistic to think they weren't.

@Scarcity20

If you have had covid natural immunity will last years. Mike yeadon speaks about it a lot but he's discredited from mainstream narrative even though he's a highly intelligent world class scientist. You'll find his videos on bitchute, rumble etc

As Covid hasn't been around for years, the claim that an infection will give you immunity lasting years cannot be known with much confidence!

This article appears on the subject reasonable:

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02825-8

"The results suggest that the average reinfection risk rises from about 5% four months after initial infection to 50% by 17 months. Overall, natural protection seems to last for less than half as long as it does for the three common-cold coronaviruses."

DH is getting his soon. I will take one if I am offered. And be very, very grateful.

I had mine this week (CEV) and no effect other than sore arm (I was poorly with my second). All Pfizer. Had my flu jab couple of weeks back.

All those saying enough us enough, we're being conned etc, I just find baffling. It's a novel virus. Of course we're having to respond to the situation as we go along. It's not like the government (s) are just sitting there going hey, you know what, let's throw in more vaccines for the jollies. That'll show 'em!

As for Mike Yeadon, the anti vaxx, anti mask covid denier, he is responsible for a whole wealth of misinformation that has cost lives so no, I will not listen to him. According to him the pandemic was over in autumn 2020 and we didn't need vaccines.
www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus-idUSL2N2N72CS

Don't know. I've had my first two vaccines but I'm not sure I'll have a booster (if I'm ever offered one). My fear of needles meant the first two were traumatic and there's no way I'm putting myself through that every 6 months.

One of my teenagers caught Covid for the second time this year shortly after returning to school in September. Was mildly ill the first time, earlier this year, but had it much worse the second time. Both bouts confirmed positive by both LTF and PCR tests.

@Bucolicky

One of my teenagers caught Covid for the second time this year shortly after returning to school in September. Was mildly ill the first time, earlier this year, but had it much worse the second time. Both bouts confirmed positive by both LTF and PCR tests.

I'm sorry your teen had to go through it twice, but it's a good example of a mild case leading to little or no natural immunity.

@littlebilliie

I had mine yesterday and I'm having a big reaction I feel lousy

Today I'm fine, the thing about vaccines is that you often feel rough after them, I am normally fine with the flu jab and now and again I have a bad reaction.

I know if I get the flu I'm vaccinated for it should be milder. I am baffled by the sceptics here, are they vaccinated for polio, measles and rubella?

I had mine yesterday. I had AZ for the first two (and reacted to the first one but fine with the second) and obviously had Pfizer yesterday and have felt really drained and achy all day.

I watched Tim Spector’s latest update yesterday (or maybe last week’s - I watched two).

He said it appears that around 20% of people do not develop antibodies after natural infection - and might assume they are protected against Covid, when in fact they are not. They are gathering more data and trying to analyse which people are likely to respond on this way. But at the moment, we don’t know.

That is one of the reasons why people who have had Covid are still recommended to get vaccinated. Admittedly some don’t respond well to vaccines either, but that seems to be a smaller proportion.

I'll have it as soon as I'm eligible

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

Don't know. I've had my first two vaccines but I'm not sure I'll have a booster (if I'm ever offered one). My fear of needles meant the first two were traumatic and there's no way I'm putting myself through that every 6 months.

Tbh if you don't have a booster there wasn't much point having the first two vaccines, because they will wear off.