Why do I have Covid if I had both jabs ?

[tellittomeslowlyandclearly]

I thought it was all a government control thing to say you can still catch covid once jabbed, but here I am and I have it. I caught from my DS getting it from school. The class has multiple cases, I tested when he did and I was clear. Then symptoms started 3 days later. DH has it too. So far DD is clear, I don't know how.

I just don't understand surely you're either immune or not? Or is it a different strain?

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Time to start making time for watching the news/reading a newspaper @tellittomeslowlyandclearly

Sad thing is there are lots of people who think this way. I have a couple of relatives who are convinced they had it in March 2020 so none of the Covid rules should really apply to them. Now they are double jabbed they feel like they are impenetrable to all illnesses. Know loads of people who are similar and went straight out partying etc after second jab and never a thought for anyone else still waiting. I mention that they can still catch it just not as bad and it goes straight over there heads. Fair enough in one sense as that is what the gov has been pushing for; everybody getting back to work/school and just catching it

Fair enough for asking, but I can't believe that people still don't understand how vaccines work.

@seymoursmyman Without the vaccine you would have been much more unwell

This is misinformation.

I have 2 unvaccinated family members who both had covid recently and they had mild illnesses.

@BIWI well I've lots of time for the next week or so, but I don't have a TV. I'll Google it, how's its spelt N E W S , well I hope I find it, it sounds ace, will make a nice change.

I can't take so much, but don't start on Santa @Thewiseoneincognito

Some good points HSHorror

I hadn't given it much thought

Understatement of the year.

I thought we were all aware that you can still catch covid with the vaccine? The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting but hopefully stops us from becoming seriously ill with it.

Honestly some people do live in their own little worlds dont they. When I went abroad last month there was a family in front of me kat the airport icking off that THEY didnt know they couldnt use NHS tests to go on holiday.

Why on earth are their 400 plus private companies to buy a test from if you could actually use the NHS tests for free??

I felt very sorry for the children because I got the impression the women in particular thought she could just blag her way onto the plane. She wanted to speak to a supervisor, said she had done what her friend told her to do etc etc.

They sadly turned her and her family away.

HNRTT OP but as to why vaccination doesn't give full protection, it isn't entirely clear afaik. Apart from the known issues that always existed with some other vaccinations that someone might not fully sero-convert due to age/a weakened immune system or where the variant causing the infection isn't antigenically-identical to the antigen in the vaccine (as might be the cade for Delta v original COVID), it is interesting that the vaccination allows a milder but not always sub-clinical infection after allowing enough time to develop what should be immunity. I've not seen anything definitive concerning the mechanism though have been too busy to look - grateful if someone could link to validated research or even a robust theory. It could be something intrinsic to corona viruses.

of course you can still catch it, just not as bad.

[quote Whyevencare]**@seymoursmyman* Without the vaccine you would have been much more unwell*

This is misinformation.

I have 2 unvaccinated family members who both had covid recently and they had mild illnesses.[/quote]
Equally this doesn't make too much sense either - they may have been asymptomatic if had been vaccinated.

No one can know for sure what the impact of COVID would be on themselves simultaneously with and without the vaccine.

What we do know, is that groups of vaccinated people have lower infection rates, more asymptomatic cases, less severe illness, less hospitalisation and less deaths than those who are unvaccinated.

OP I don't know why people are being such arseholes to you on this thread, my unvaxed daughter is isolating with covid at the minute and my other unvaxed daughter is allowed to go to school, makes no sense to me at all shrug

@MrsRobbieHart

Please make sure your children are in school as much as possible OP.

I love this!

In total honesty I thought getting the jab stopped you getting covid too it wasn’t until everyone got the jab that they started to say, well actually you can still get it, it just won’t kill you.

@moreshitandnofuckingredemption

OP I don't know why people are being such arseholes to you on this thread, my unvaxed daughter is isolating with covid at the minute and my other unvaxed daughter is allowed to go to school, makes no sense to me at all shrug

I'd guess that posters are incredulous that there are people so Ill informed about even the basics of the biggest global event that any of us are likely to live through

How does anyone who has any contact with the world think that the vaccine stops all transmission?

Ok if information was only disseminated by TV we could give those with a TV a pass but it's unavoidable even if you only chat to wokmates surely the subject has come up.

Hun it doesn't take much effort or ability to google what vaccines do. If you think it's a 'goverment control thing' you surely have done some research on the vaccine, so why didn't you research how it protects you?

Are you drunk?
Did you blindly have the vaccine without researching?

Loads of vaccines don't stop you from getting it - I was vaccinated against measles, and still got it. But most of them are fairly effective against you getting it badly enough to be seriously ill or in some cases show many symptoms.

however, with most of those diseases, the prevalence is pretty low at the moment. Even if only 90% of people with measles vaccine made effective antibodies, the chances that you'd run into the disease in the wild are much smaller, and so you don't hear of loads of people still contracting measles most of the time. When there are outbreaks, then it is clearer that even people who have been vaccinated can catch some of the diseases. If enough people get vaccinated, and if over time the prevalence of the virus drops, then the fact that some people will still get it anyway will be less of a problem. When the virus is still rife, it's a much greater problem.

Then of course there are all the issues with variants and so on changing how well it works.

But it doesn't necessarily mean it's a worse vaccine that most of the others that we've had.

Do you use a lot of facebook groups OP? It's interesting the Government control bit was in the first line of your original post.

One of my colleagues had covid 6 months ago. She has since been double jabbed and has tested positive again. She feels worse than the first time. Quite a few of our double vaccinated staff have been really I'll with it.

Can't believe there are people who still don't understand what a vaccine does.

The vaccination is to teach your immune system how to fight it. This means that you may still catch it but because your immune system recognises it, it will be better equipped to fight it. You, as a result, should have a less severe form of covid-19 than you would if you were not vaccinated.

@Bunn5

The vaccine was never designed to stop you getting Covid. It is designed to stop you from becoming very unwell with it and reduces your chances of needing hospital treatment.

I remember being told repeatedly by the press that the vacinnes were 90-95% effective against catching covid.

@OliveTree75

One of my colleagues had covid 6 months ago. She has since been double jabbed and has tested positive again. She feels worse than the first time. Quite a few of our double vaccinated staff have been really I'll with it.

I suppose it also depends on the viral load.