Are people no longer bothered by Covid….?

[Iwannabelikeyouohh]

Is anyone actually bothered about Covid?
From places I’ve been recently, everyone is just “normal”

I took my son to a toddler class this morning.

I walked in wearing my mask. Room full of 19 other adults and their toddlers.

Not one single adult had a mask on (expect me)
There was no distancing in the class.
It was as normal as normal can be.

I joined a new slimming class tonight.

Again I walked in wearing a mask. No one else had one on.
All chairs pushed up together, people sat close.

I don’t get it.

How can we go from distancing, mask wearing, avoiding people on walks (which is exactly what it was like) to nothing….

You must have lived in some sort of bubble. Many of us has worked all way through. Get vaccinated. 🙄

[quote CecilieRose]@pelosi there has been plenty of evidence that masks work. You just probably haven't bothered to read it. They are still mandated in most of Europe, and cases much lower there, and things are much better.

The delusion on here is funny.[/quote]
The recurring theme over the pandemic was there was little evidence that masks work.

You can be wilfully blind to this if you want but don’t expect me to be. I’m no anti-masker, I wore mine without fail to protect others, but if you think people are going to wear masks when not mandated after they’ve been consistently told they aren’t effective then you’re living in la la land.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/health/jason-leitch-you-cant-get-covid-19-twice-masks-dont-work-public-2527911%3famp&fbclid=IwAR1qiKgrXHik1pIzX3LlZVJvb0PmkCIO9HlYzptUQ1douuxK3IpzAu8MqZA

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-/amp

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8966883/amp/Masks-DONT-stop-spread-Covid-experts-criticise-troubling-lack-evidence.html

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/amp/

@Seventeen44

Because as this thread shows OP, most people don't give a shit about others - the fact that people are still dying in their thousands genuinely doesn't seem to bother them. How wearing a mask to the shops actually prevents people from "living their lives" I honestly cannot fathom. It's hardly a massive imposition FFS! But the wE hAvE 2 gEt bAk 2 NoRMaL aT sUm PoiNT crowd clearly disagree...

Get back in your box!

Wearing a mask makes my psoriasis really bad. It makes it flare up and there is nothing that can dive about it. It’s uncomfortable, it itches, it weeps and could get infected so don’t tell me everyone should just wear a mask!!!

@TableFlowerss

Couldn’t care less if I get it. 40, size 10, no underlying conditions etc so far more chance of being killed in a car accident became I spend about 80 a month in my car…..

How do you feel about getting it asymptomatically and passing it on to people who aren't as lucky as you?

@lovelyupnorth

Never did care about corona virus really.

Had my jabs followed the rules for others benefits. But it’s never remotely worried me.

Same.

Two weekends ago I went to a music/food festival organised by Hastings Borough Council.

It was almost like it was pre-March 2020. This surprised me because I thought they would at least have made some effort at virtue signalling. I say almost because the girl attendants checking our tickets (in the fresh air!) wore blue paper masks.

To be clear, no vax needed, no test needed, no track and trace, no masks, no social distancing, cash accepted for all the food and drink, hundreds of people crammed into the music marquee, literally bumping into one another when dancing, all singing along in front of the stage, indoors.

I saw loads of people hugging and kissing when greeting each other, and the organisers shaking hands with the band members as well as the public.

It was two whole days, 12 till 8pm and in all that time I didn't see anyone attending, or serving food and drinks, wear a mask or SD.

PS if anyone doubts me, I took loads of film footage and photos.

How do you feel about getting it asymptomatically and passing it on to people who aren't as lucky as you

@2Two

My answer was in reply to his I feel about getting covid myself - my answer is - I’m not bothered in the slightest if I get it.

That answer was nothing to do with whether or not I wear a mask…..

But to answer the question, you were clearly getting at, I don’t wear a mask, because it’s no longer mandatory. I won’t let anyone try to shame me for that decision. I have psoriasis and it makes it it worse in my face wearing a mask.

I don’t don’t wear one unless compulsory and that’s my choice, my right. It’s sad that there are vulnerable people but that responsibility can’t be placed on people that don’t wear masks….

How many people are homeless, that you walk past I’m major cities? How many people offer to hone them?! It’s sad but the onus isn’t on the public to protect everyone. The onus is on the individuals and those closest to them

Why would anyone doubt you @Maskless ? How weird you took a loada ‘footage’.. are you going to complain about it?

There have been huge festivals on this summer, Reading/Leeds, Wireless etc .. I saw several hundred drunk 20 year olds heading to Mint dance festival in Leeds last weekend on coaches. Nightclubs have been back open at full capacity since August. Same with theatres & indoor music gigs in arenas.

There are no restrictions anymore bar isolating if you have it. You can hug, kiss, dance, sing, eat and enjoy life just like Feb 2020 🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm being more careful than before, because others are being less careful. Have started wearing an FFP2 mask instead of a cloth one and find it surprisingly comfortable and convenient.

My main concern is Long Covid. Perhaps my view is coloured by having a close relative plus a few acquaintances with ME/CFS, which really isn't nice. My 22 year old's life has been blighted by the condition for seven years.

The jury is out on how prevalent and how bad Long Covid is. I hope to be reassured that it isn't very dangerous after all, and then I will relax. Meanwhile I'm careful.

I think in other countries it's really different. I'm from another part of the world where they're going for borderline elimination, and seeing the case numbers in the UK, where i live, is just shocking compared to how some places are treating the acceptable number of deaths. 100+ lives a day is too fucking many! The contrast between the caution of my own country and the recklessness of plague island is staggering to me.

@Randomneim

I think in other countries it's really different. I'm from another part of the world where they're going for borderline elimination, and seeing the case numbers in the UK, where i live, is just shocking compared to how some places are treating the acceptable number of deaths. 100+ lives a day is too fucking many! The contrast between the caution of my own country and the recklessness of plague island is staggering to me.

Where are you from then? Because you can try to eradicate it heresy you want, but there is far too much international travel for that to be a success…..

Mid 30s, double jabbed, reasonably fit and healthy. But out of courtesy I always wear a mask. I figure someone working in a and e has to wear them constantly, if you end up there then you would like them to wear one treating you? Also breaks my heart watching some elderly folks running back up a supermarket aisle as they see a person not wearing one. Some vulnerable people are terrified of catching it. Also if someone stares at me they cant see what im mouthing to them :-)

here all you want effing predictive text

@pelosi Did you actually post a link from the Daily Mail expecting to be taken seriously?

Masks work. Lots of my friends are scientists and doctors, so I'll believe them over a Daily Mail reader, if that's OK.

And by 'masks' I mean proper medical masks, not a flimsy piece of cotton. FFP2s are the norm, and even required, on a lot of the continent.

@Antinerak

People on this thread prove that as long as they're okay, no one else matters. "Everyone who can and wants to be jabbed is" that bullshit is still going around then?

If everyone in England took their head out of their arse for just a moment, they'd realise why being so proudly maskless and ignorant to what damage covid does is so damaging.

oh, my god, EXACTLY.

[quote CecilieRose]@pelosi Did you actually post a link from the Daily Mail expecting to be taken seriously?

Masks work. Lots of my friends are scientists and doctors, so I'll believe them over a Daily Mail reader, if that's OK.

And by 'masks' I mean proper medical masks, not a flimsy piece of cotton. FFP2s are the norm, and even required, on a lot of the continent.[/quote]
Did you actually even read my post where I said that the recurring theme during the pandemic was that masks aren’t proven to be effective? That’s what people were reading and forming their views on.

You may not read the mail (nor do I), but plenty do. Like it or not, they’re the biggest newspaper website in the UK.

And I posted other links too.

@Antinerak

People on this thread prove that as long as they're okay, no one else matters. "Everyone who can and wants to be jabbed is" that bullshit is still going around then?

If everyone in England took their head out of their arse for just a moment, they'd realise why being so proudly maskless and ignorant to what damage covid does is so damaging.

No - being massless isn’t ignorant at all. That’s in your head. You can’t force people to wear a mask to suit other people. It’s not compulsory to wear a mask, therefore they shouldn’t be made to feel that they have to.

If people genuinely thing that they’re safe because others wear masks, they’re delusional. If you’re that worried, stay I’m in at busy times. You can’t control other people, especially when they’re doing nothing wrong, so just look out for yourself

If people genuinely thing that they’re safe because others wear masks, they’re delusional

I don't believe I'm safe because others wear masks, but I do believe - based on very firm evidence - that I'm safer than I am when people around me are not wearing masks, likewise when I'm wearing one.

@Saracen

I'm being more careful than before, because others are being less careful. Have started wearing an FFP2 mask instead of a cloth one and find it surprisingly comfortable and convenient.

My main concern is Long Covid. Perhaps my view is coloured by having a close relative plus a few acquaintances with ME/CFS, which really isn't nice. My 22 year old's life has been blighted by the condition for seven years.

The jury is out on how prevalent and how bad Long Covid is. I hope to be reassured that it isn't very dangerous after all, and then I will relax. Meanwhile I'm careful.

Do you expect to be able to avoid Covid forever? Unless you’re vulnerable I don’t think this is a healthy mindset.

Long Covid exists but recent studies show that the numbers were wildly overestimated. Plus being vaccinated greatly reduces your long Covid greatly. Is it worth it to live in fear for years to come?

@2Two

If people genuinely thing that they’re safe because others wear masks, they’re delusional

I don't believe I'm safe because others wear masks, but I do believe - based on very firm evidence - that I'm safer than I am when people around me are not wearing masks, likewise when I'm wearing one.

And that’s absolutely fine and completely your decision. You can’t enforce others to think like that though….

[quote CecilieRose]@pelosi Did you actually post a link from the Daily Mail expecting to be taken seriously?

Masks work. Lots of my friends are scientists and doctors, so I'll believe them over a Daily Mail reader, if that's OK.

And by 'masks' I mean proper medical masks, not a flimsy piece of cotton. FFP2s are the norm, and even required, on a lot of the continent.[/quote]
Masks likely do have some effect, especially FFP2 masks.... but they won't be enough to eradicate Covid, so your position seems to imply that we wear masks forever, literally, and even then we're likely just delaying the day we get it.

So what's the point? Where does it end!

@Warhertisuff

**Masks likely do have some effect, especially FFP2 masks.... but they won't be enough to eradicate Covid, so your position seems to imply that we wear masks forever, literally, and even then we're likely just delaying the day we get it.

So what's the point? Where does it end**

Exactly- where does it end in that case? No one will ever answer that question though….. all those happy to have restrictions placed on them can never actually answer the above question….. ever!!! So don’t expect a reply

We cannot wish a virus away- it takes both personal and social responsibility to manage this and also live with it-

And that’s absolutely fine and completely your decision. You can’t enforce others to think like that though…

Where did I say I thought I should, @TableFlowerss? Why would you assume that others don't know how the law works?