Surely just bring the mask mandate back now?

[Maskedtonigh]

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?

@marieantoinehairnet you've berated me in the past regarding my exemption. You've questioned which exemptions are genuine, and self-identifying as exempt.

[quote GoldFrankensteinAndGrrr]@marieantoinehairnet why so rude? On pretty much every mask thread. I've seen mask exempt people on the receiving end of your ire, too.

Perhaps just accept that not everyone feels the same way about stuff as you do. Debate is one thing, telling people they need to get out more in response to your ageism and questioning whether people have a life outside MN is just unnecessary.

Incredible to see that a year and a half on mask threads still get so heated. Or that they're even a thing at all, still.[/quote]
Yes, you'd think that by now people would have accepted the scientific consensus that they are quite helpful (obviously respecting the need for those with exemptions not to wear them0

@FourTeaFallOut

It's hard enough having to live with a lung condition in a pandemic when you are getting the stink eye for coughing and not being able to wear a mask without having other people suggest that people like me are making it up. Fuck you.

I'm sorry this is happening.

And yes, I agree - exempt people often are accused of making it up, on MN and irl.

Honestly, to say this is crazy is an understatement, I am leaving this thread as, my personal diagnosis, is some of you do need to take a break from Mumsnet...!

Also see the seatbelt analogy (seatbelts don't prevent crashes and might not prevent injury as much as airbags but they help enough to be worth having)

Masks are a completely different thing, it isn't even an anology . Are you going to that equally stupid one about wearing trousers and peeing as well.

They haven't prevented any lockdowns in fact when masks came in cases went up.

As we keep saying wear a mask if you want no one's stopping you.

@marieantoinehairnet

Honestly, to say this is crazy is an understatement, I am leaving this thread as, my personal diagnosis, is some of you do need to take a break from Mumsnet...!

Probably for the best. Have a lovely afternoon.

@Againstmachine

Also see the seatbelt analogy (seatbelts don't prevent crashes and might not prevent injury as much as airbags but they help enough to be worth having)

Masks are a completely different thing, it isn't even an anology . Are you going to that equally stupid one about wearing trousers and peeing as well.

They haven't prevented any lockdowns in fact when masks came in cases went up.

As we keep saying wear a mask if you want no one's stopping you.

Masks came in because cases went up

They are not a complete answer but they help a bit.

I will certainly continue to wear a mask, but bear in mind that if everyone does their bit we are far less likely to have severe restrictions later in winter

[obviously respecting those with exemptions ]

For those who would like a UK-wide mask requirement - when do you think this should be lifted? For how long do you feel others should be legally mandated to wear masks in indoor public spaces?

Because if we’re generally agreed that covid isn’t going away, I can see three types of answer to that:

a) until xyz specific thing happens (lower cases, hospitals below such-and-such a capacity, after winter, month ends in an L);

b) until some future point when I won’t consider it necessary any more, but I can’t say when that will be, we’ll have to wait and see how I feel as time goes by;

c) indefinitely/forever.

I think we could potentially have a decent conversation around a), but if it’s b) or c) then probably not.

[quote Snailhaterz2]**@IcedPurple* @MarshaBradyo* Most theatres are asking audiences to wear masks but, as far as I'm aware, none are making it a condition of entry at the moment. Of my two closest professional theatres, one (which usually has an older demographic) has a prominent notice on its website asking audiences to wear masks and confirming that staff will also wear them. The other one (younger demographic) is also asking but less prominently. It is also keeping a few performances of each show as socially distanced, and making it very clear that they really expect mask wearing at those shows.[/quote]
I have no issue with venues deciding themselves. I don’t think we need to go back to legally mandated wearing - as either way the buyer’s majority wishes will probably be at fore front.

I will certainly continue to wear a mask, but bear in mind that if everyone does their bit we are far less likely to have severe restrictions later in winter

I did my bit and wore a mask when it was law. And as said they didn't prevent restrictions being introduced last winter twice.

I don't owe it to anyone to wear a mask, where is this debt that I owe.

Most didn't care about the vunerable in previous years why all a sudden they care.

I would like to say, at end of the day,it isn't up to other people who decide who is exempt and who isn't. It also says if wearing a mask causes distress, you should not wear one, something along those lines anyway. So, please can the posters who insist on everyone else wear them, please understand that you cannot do this. It's not acceptable.

If you want to wear a mask, you are free to do so.

I think we need an intellectual agreement that this is a good thing for now, for people who can

and a review next March when we are over the "difficult winter"

rather than legislation if possible

because if people accept the rationale for protecting other people and society in a pandemic

they are more likely to make thoughtful choices about indoor crowded areas etc

and it will work better

of course with leeway for medical exemptions etc

"13:54Againstmachine

I will certainly continue to wear a mask, but bear in mind that if everyone does their bit we are far less likely to have severe restrictions later in winter"

We have done our bit for long enough. Children have sat in classrooms for five hours a day in masks and done their bit. It's time for you to do your bit and stop requesting people wear masks.

@Againstmachine

Sorry, it looks like I'm aiming that at you, I'm obviously NOT!

sorry that was in answer to @GoldenOmber

of course it's not impossible we end up with plan B anyhow but it would be great if it could be society working together instead.

"and it will work better"

@herecomesthsun

How do you know this for a fact?

"57herecomesthsun

sorry that was in answer to @GoldenOmber

of course it's not impossible we end up with plan B anyhow but it would be great if it could be society working together instead."

Society working together?

@Peteycat

"57herecomesthsun

sorry that was in answer to @GoldenOmber

of course it's not impossible we end up with plan B anyhow but it would be great if it could be society working together instead."

Society working together?

yes you know, people wanting to look after each other and protect the vulnerable

@Peteycat

"13:54Againstmachine

I will certainly continue to wear a mask, but bear in mind that if everyone does their bit we are far less likely to have severe restrictions later in winter"

We have done our bit for long enough. Children have sat in classrooms for five hours a day in masks and done their bit. It's time for you to do your bit and stop requesting people wear masks.

I'm doing my bit in large part for the children I don't want them to have another lockdown this winter.

@Peteycat

"and it will work better"

@herecomesthsun

How do you know this for a fact?

I'm not sure what sort of answer you are expecting there, the question is a bit odd?

@herecomesthesun

Have you always looked out for everyone else and protected the vulnerable? (Prior to Covid). I don't know you and maybe you are just that type of person but there are people who have always been vulnerable from this that or the other but every person in the world cant be responsible for their welfare. Covid is not everything. People are dying from other things too. People may be vulnerable from the anxiety they feel when people keeping harping on about wearing a mask to protect the greater good.

Wearing a mask in England is a personal choice.

Why can't people understand that choice means just that. Some people like me choose not to wear one and I don't care whether others do or not.

And looking around a lot of other people feel the same in RL.

I put up with them when it was law but curtailed my spending and stopped going out and now it isn't law those that want masks who don't feel safe then perhaps you need to do similar or just accept that others choose not to use one.

@puppeteer

Methinks perhaps you just want everyone to think like you do.

Happy for anyone to think what they want. When it starts impacting on public health, I'd like them to act for the greater good. I tell you what I think everyone should agree with me on, though: anyone who says 'methinks' is an absolute melt.

[quote Ginandfantalemon]@herecomesthesun

Have you always looked out for everyone else and protected the vulnerable? (Prior to Covid). I don't know you and maybe you are just that type of person but there are people who have always been vulnerable from this that or the other but every person in the world cant be responsible for their welfare. Covid is not everything. People are dying from other things too. People may be vulnerable from the anxiety they feel when people keeping harping on about wearing a mask to protect the greater good.[/quote]
people are dying from other things. Not from people talking about 'the greater good' though.