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Surely just bring the mask mandate back now?

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Maskedtonigh · 15/09/2021 08:20

They are an easy measure that are no real hardship and could help (even if just in a small way) suppress this virus surely we should just bring back our mask mandate now?

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Peteycat · 17/09/2021 11:44

So is the 25%, if that's even true, enough to balance the fallout from young childrens social skills being compromised, and hearing and visually impaired people living in a world they struggle to communicate in? There are so many factors here that I don't think you understand or are you choosing not to engage with other people's worries if it's not all about catching covid?

AlixandraTheGreat · 17/09/2021 11:44

@Peteycat

*I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm telling people like you that restrictions and mitigations are no longer wanted by most people. You are trying to keep us in an unhappy place with your neurosis and bullying.

I have a very fulfilled life thank you very much! Because I'm not constantly trying to police others on their personal choices.*

Do you have any self-awareness at all? What you accused PP of - bullying, policing others - you are doing yourself! In your very paragraph you say you're not telling anyone what to do, then you say you're telling them restrictions are no longer wanted. You get in constant disagreements on every thread you're on.

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 11:45

The balance for me is choice.

marieantoinehairnet · 17/09/2021 11:46

I'm not just protecting myself...

I have little children, they've come to understand why a mask is worn in certain places, even they're intelligent enough to see it makes sense.

You just won't let it stop, will you

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 11:47

@AlixandraTheGreat

"Do you have any self-awareness at all? What you accused PP of - bullying, policing others - you are doing yourself! In your very paragraph you say you're not telling anyone what to do, then you say you're telling them restrictions are no longer wanted. You get in constant disagreements on every thread you're on."

Yes I do get disagreements, but I also get support. Again, balance. Not everyone will agree with me, I would be foolish to assume that. I say they are no longer wanted by most people. This thread shows this, just being out and about shows it too. I would be naive if I said everybody doesn't want them. So I say most, because that is what I am witnessing.

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 11:49

"11:46marieantoinehairnet

I'm not just protecting myself...

I have little children, they've come to understand why a mask is worn in certain places, even they're intelligent enough to see it makes sense.

You just won't let it stop, will you"

So that's great your kids are fine, very pleased. However not all are, you are generalising that all children accept it. Even if they do, why should they?

marieantoinehairnet · 17/09/2021 11:53

You are generalising that all are not...

A box of contradictions and narcissism

ilovesooty · 17/09/2021 11:55

I think persistently accusing people with differing opinions of having a neurosis could be construed as a personal attack.

herecomesthsun · 17/09/2021 11:56

@Peteycat

So is the 25%, if that's even true, enough to balance the fallout from young childrens social skills being compromised, and hearing and visually impaired people living in a world they struggle to communicate in? There are so many factors here that I don't think you understand or are you choosing not to engage with other people's worries if it's not all about catching covid?
Children's social skills will suffer far more from lockdown coming back, surely?

If kids, say, go to the park and run around, saying hello to people, outdoors, for example (we were in a playground last afternoon) no one is wearing a mask because it's outdoors.

Outdoor settings are fine.

Indoors with family, no one is wearing a mask.

I think it is tragic that so many baby and toddlers groups were unable to run as normal, but that's not because of adults wearing masks.

Little children aren't wearing masks.

I take my mask off if someone deaf can't understand me.

There are loads of issues all jumbled up together here, but basically we're all better off not having an even worse national health crisis and not facing more mandatory restrictions on behaviour.

For those of us who can, wearing a mask sometimes indoors might help ward off those things, and we can be sensitive to individual situations like the deaf person trying to lipread.

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 11:59

"I think it is tragic that so many baby and toddlers groups were unable to run as normal, but that's not because of adults wearing masks."

What a ridiculous statement.

Ginandfantalemon · 17/09/2021 12:00

In the grand scheme of things I'm interested to know how many people would wear masks as part of a normal life, like for years to come, and happily adapt to it. (And still expect others to). It obviously for many, isn't a big deal. We've already been told we need to live with this, (like flu). I know its more contagious, more dangerous, but that is what we were told. Some people say they want to continue to wear them 'til cases go down. But what if cases dont go down. What then, when are people who either cant or don't like wearing masks allowed to get their lives back? Or shall we continue to be put down by folk who think it's a duty. I'm also interested to know if the people who are still constantly wearing theirs, are going into cafes and restaurants and seeing it safe to sit at the table unmasked.

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 12:00

"Little children aren't wearing masks."

They are watching adults around them wearing them.

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 12:02

"11:55ilovesooty

I think persistently accusing people with differing opinions of having a neurosis could be construed as a personal attack."

No. I accuse those of neurosis when they display it with their comments. A differing opinion is obviously fine, scaremongering is not.

herecomesthsun · 17/09/2021 12:02

@Peteycat

"I think it is tragic that so many baby and toddlers groups were unable to run as normal, but that's not because of adults wearing masks."

What a ridiculous statement.

Why?

Were they running where you are?

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 12:03

"For those of us who can, wearing a mask sometimes indoors might help ward off those things, and we can be sensitive to individual situations like the deaf person trying to lipread"

Fine so you wear it indoors, just don't expect others to, or say they should.

Peteycat · 17/09/2021 12:04

"12:02herecomesthsun

Peteycat

"I think it is tragic that so many baby and toddlers groups were unable to run as normal, but that's not because of adults wearing masks."

What a ridiculous statement.

Why?

Were they running where you are?"

Not during lockdown obviously not, but they reopened.

They closed because of lockdown, not because people didn't wear a mask.

ilovesooty · 17/09/2021 12:06

@Peteycat

"11:55ilovesooty

I think persistently accusing people with differing opinions of having a neurosis could be construed as a personal attack."

No. I accuse those of neurosis when they display it with their comments. A differing opinion is obviously fine, scaremongering is not.

Are you qualified to diagnose neurosis?

I very much doubt it.

herecomesthsun · 17/09/2021 12:07

@Ginandfantalemon

In the grand scheme of things I'm interested to know how many people would wear masks as part of a normal life, like for years to come, and happily adapt to it. (And still expect others to). It obviously for many, isn't a big deal. We've already been told we need to live with this, (like flu). I know its more contagious, more dangerous, but that is what we were told. Some people say they want to continue to wear them 'til cases go down. But what if cases dont go down. What then, when are people who either cant or don't like wearing masks allowed to get their lives back? Or shall we continue to be put down by folk who think it's a duty. I'm also interested to know if the people who are still constantly wearing theirs, are going into cafes and restaurants and seeing it safe to sit at the table unmasked.
Me?

Short term, will be wearing a mask indoors if it's crowded etc till spring

I don't go to cafes indoors, am fine eating muffins and tea etc outdoors, obv without a mask!

Medium term, let's see where we are in March.

Longer term, I would look to how they do things in say Japan where people might wear a mask if they are ill etc. It would be quite selective.

I'd be guided by the comments of Whittty and JVT too, I think they're very good.

milkyaqua · 17/09/2021 12:08

I have a very fulfilled life thank you very much!

If that is the case, it is odd that you have so much time to spend berating others on the coronavirus board. I would think you will soon reach 1,000 comments on this topic alone.

Because I'm not constantly trying to police others on their personal choices.

And yet you do.

herecomesthsun · 17/09/2021 12:08

@Peteycat

"12:02herecomesthsun

Peteycat

"I think it is tragic that so many baby and toddlers groups were unable to run as normal, but that's not because of adults wearing masks."

What a ridiculous statement.

Why?

Were they running where you are?"

Not during lockdown obviously not, but they reopened.

They closed because of lockdown, not because people didn't wear a mask.

Exactly, they closed because of lockdown.

We wear masks partly to avoid another lockdown.

Thanks, that was my point Smile

frazzledali · 17/09/2021 12:14

it's funny, I used to think there were TONS of anti-maskers on MN, until I started paying attention to usernames and realised it was mostly one poster (plus a few others dotted around) just wanging on and on and on with non-scientific dross. Such a bore.

Ontopofthesunset · 17/09/2021 12:21

I don't understand why people get so angry about other people wearing masks. I don't like it, and I suspect it's of limited use, but I'll wear a mask in situations where it's crowded or where I think other people will be reassured by it. As my young adult sons say, it's very low effort for them to wear a mask on public transport, so why would they not do it when it makes other people feel more comfortable?

puppeteer · 17/09/2021 12:25

@frazzledali

it's funny, I used to think there were TONS of anti-maskers on MN, until I started paying attention to usernames and realised it was mostly one poster (plus a few others dotted around) just wanging on and on and on with non-scientific dross. Such a bore.
Why on earth do you waste your time commenting if it’s such a bore!

Methinks perhaps you just want everyone to think like you do.

Againstmachine · 17/09/2021 12:36

We wear masks partly to avoid another lockdown.

They didn't prevent last 2 lockdowns at all.

lockdownmadnessdotcom · 17/09/2021 12:39

I'm not at all convinced that young children are remotely affected by masks. When they are at home, in the parks, with relatives and friends, nobody wears a mask. It's only when they go out to shops or on a train/bus. That is a tiny part of their lives, assuming you have to take them to supermarkets at all - if I had small children I would use online shopping - it's not like the first lockdown when it was only for the vulnerable to use.

As a pp said, they'll be much more badly affected by being cooped up again.

Some people can't wear masks. Others don't like them. Well "don't like" doesn't = can't.