No vaccines for healthy 12-15 Yr olds

[Wellbythebloodyhell]

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccines-will-not-be-recommended-for-healthy-children-aged-12-to-15-government-advisers-say-12398444

Is anyone else glad this potential decision has been taken away? I was very much undecided about vaccinating my older dc and now feel a bit of a weight has been lifted now its not something I need to consider.

The chances of dying from covid if you are under the age of 19 is:

99.973%

😂 😂 😂 are you sure?

The chances of dying from covid if you are under the age of 19 is:99.973%

have you been on the gin?!

*We can not start using our children like this, it is deeply deeply unethical. When we consider that the stats are this: The chances of dying from covid if you are under the age of 19 is:

99.973%

Now tell me kids need a vaccine confused Of course they do not.*

Pulling out the stats this evening eh

@Mynameismargot

*We can not start using our children like this, it is deeply deeply unethical. When we consider that the stats are this: The chances of dying from covid if you are under the age of 19 is:

99.973%

Now tell me kids need a vaccine confused Of course they do not.*

Pulling out the stats this evening eh

Step away from the keyboard steps

I also think the western governments need to watch out. IF it turns out that mRNA are harmful to children's developing bodies, and some are left with permanent life long health problems in the future - because we don't know at this stage that isn't going to happen, then this is a law suit, perhaps millions of lawsuits waiting to happen.

You can't railroad and force generations of children that are highly vulnerable and unable to stand up for their own rights into a vaccine that is untested.
We could see en masse legal action, long term health implications and governments held to account for years embroiled in legal action. If it goes wrong.

How do you even start to explain your thinking behind allowing this to happen to your child/children? What do you say 'oh well we wanted to try and protect the old anti vaxxer guy down the road who is 85, so we thought we would give the vaccine to you instead (as you can't refuse like he can) for the good of everyone else, untested sadly, but we were told it was fine'

There is a very good reason JCVI are distancing themselves from this next stage of rollout, and not all of the reasons have been made entirely clear.

Don't forget we as parents will also be held to account, both to ourselves and to our children in the future. This decision is not for free, we have to live with the consequences either way. No one else. That is why I am so reluctant given their actual covid risk is microscopic.

And here it is. The absolute proof that you didn’t read the article I linked, you little japester. It literally explained everything you’ve written as a concern (and why you’re wrong.) Which you’d know, if you’d read it.

You not serious about this at all are you?

No one has really answered the question, give covid is not an emergency for our children at least, why are we working outside the normal regulations for ALL vaccines and new medicines? And not allowing for the large trials to take place over a period of years, which is normal procedure and to gather the data and information in the short, medium and long term so we can be absolutely sure that mRNA is safe for children? Why is that not happening?

M

Yes one or two pimms post cricket I must confess - naughty steps!!

SO let me try again

The chances of anyone actually dying from covid under the age of 19 is:

99.973%

There I did it!!!!

“No-one has answered the question!” she wails, ignoring the post that did in fact answer her question.

@stepupandbecounted

Yes one or two pimms post cricket I must confess - naughty steps!!

SO let me try again

The chances of anyone actually dying from covid under the age of 19 is:

99.973%

There I did it!!!!

ermmmmm.....

Your cricket matches are very short.

Ponders whether you got thrashed.

Given that stat I'm definitely vaccinating my kids now.

It's backfiring and foot shooting in truly splendid fashion.

Holy shit that’s it, I’m going stop worrying about ds’s illness and just thank that lord that he’s managed to survive this apocalyptic event.

Still, solves the problem of social distancing at school, I guess

Hospitalisations in the US among unvaccinated adolescents(12 and up) 10x higher than fully vaccinated Link

Deadlier than Mers.

I don’t disagree that it’s unethical asking our kids (well, not asking, but offering them the chance…) to make up for the idiocy of grown ups. But in Italy’s case the government has fckdup the message of adult vaccination in quite a spectacular fashion (mostly due to AZ clots) and there seem to be an age bracket which is trump-style stubborn and far too much into conspiracy theories. The trust is gone and can’t be made up in the short term. They are now resorting to carrots and sticks. And the younger I know are just happy to get it done and over with….because they’ve had school closure longer than in U.K. and want to go back to school/sport/life

Worrying stats here @stepupandbecounted ! 🤔

I did hear somewhere there was a 100% likelihood of death at some point after Covid, though.

@Barbie222

I did hear somewhere there was a 100% likelihood of death at some point after Covid, though.

I heard that, too.

Hi cannot comoare with US were diet and obesity are rife

Obesity is a risk factor and a vulnerability in itself

As a country they are was more unhealthy than most

There was a study which bbc punished (can’t find it but will look) which shows that the affect of covid on kids in US was not being seen elsewhere and they suggested the only explanation was diet and weight in kids plus obviously certain racial groups are more at risk

watapalava

This is what makes it even more frustrating (I don’t know if that’s the right word?) that ds got so ill from covid and has had all the issues caused by it.

He’s slim (less at risk than obese) and was healthy and sporty
He was 10 (less at risk than someone 60 or 70 plus)
He’s half white/half other ethnicity, but that other ethnicity is one that has been typically less affected by covid.

It’s such an unpredictable virus. He’s textbook “least likely in the whole world to be affected. The “right” age, weight, ethnicity, everything. But he was affected. Which is why it frustrates me to see people saying “it doesn’t affect kids, it’s not a big deal.”

Because luckily, it doesn’t affect most kids. But you can’t reliably predict which ones it will affect.

@stepupandbecounted I think you’ve inverted your stats there I think you mean that those are the chances of survival in teens.

Well what larks.