Ivermectin bonkersness

[Thebookswereherfriends]

I’ve just been reading about people all over the world who are buying a horse dewormer medicine to “cure” Covid-19. It makes people crap themselves, go blind and causes your intestinal lining to shed! How on earth does someone think taking a medication for animals is a good idea, but having a vaccine which is designed and tested for humans by actual doctors and scientists is crazy?!

Ad hominem attacks are sometimes required.

The barbed passive aggressive tone in all posts by @speckledostrichegg is pretty tiresome

Its the that does it for me

@Cindy974

HAHA busted

Knew speckledostrichegg was an obvious troll she’s always lurking the same threads acting holier than thou

What have I been busted for @Cindy974?

Care to explain how I'm a troll?

@Cindy974

Its the that does it for me

Ad hominem attacks are sometimes required.

You mean when you can't actually engage with the substance of the argument?

@noblegiraffe

Ad hominem attacks are sometimes required.

You mean when you can't actually engage with the substance of the argument?

I think anyone can read this thread and others and see who always starts the personal attacks 🤷‍♀️

I think anyone can read this thread and others and see who always starts the personal attacks

This is getting ridiculous, please link to any example of a personal attack @hamstersarse

Your previous (incorrect) claim that thousands have died due to the vaccines in the UK is relevant, because it clearly impacts on how you perceive vaccine safety.

This caught my eye as I am currently fighting a losing battle with scabies, the cream I have used is Peremthrin but even after 3 treatments i still itch like hell and have new marks appearing. I had a telephone consultation with my GP and sent him photos, he confirmed it looks very much like scabies. I asked if I could have Ivermectin as people on Reddit were saying its the only effective treatment. My GP said no, its not been authorised for use in the UK yet, I have been told to go for a face to face appointment if the next application of cream doesnt help but they wont prescribe this unless its Norwegian Scabies (crusted) The people on the forum told me to buy the horse version (I havent but I can see how this happens to be honest and thats not even for covid just dealing with non stop itching.

Incidentaly I have no idea how I caught scabies as I dont have a partner and have WFH and followed distance rules for Covid, assuming if I am close enough to catch a minescule mite (which is very slow and cant fly or jump) then I can catch Covid too.

@Jenasaurus if I were you I would go to a pharmacy and ask their advice, you might be able to take something to help with the itching whilst the cream kills the little bleeders, if it is indeed scabies.

Also the horse version of ivermectin is usually contained in a wormer, so would strongly advice against smearing yourself with the stuff as its designed to pass through the horses digestive tract, not be applied to human skin.

Ad hominem attacks are sometimes required.

You mean when you can't actually engage with the substance of the argument?

Surely more like when the discussion on the thread has drifted a lot into 'conspiracy theory' and 'fact checking' and 'distrust' and 'narratives' and 'evidence' and then...

Am I conspiracy theorist?

Well I know nothing about X. I have never been involved in X. I wasn't even anywhere near the place you say X occurred.

Proof showing opposite is true.

Backpedal. Backtrack. Excuse.

Any this is on a thread wondering why people don't believe 'experts' lol. Does ad hominem really matter when it's highly fucking relevant 😭😂😂😂

[quote frumpety]@Jenasaurus if I were you I would go to a pharmacy and ask their advice, you might be able to take something to help with the itching whilst the cream kills the little bleeders, if it is indeed scabies.[/quote]
I agree, I may do this but I am using Benadryl one a day which seems to help although not totally. I am seeing my GP on 22nd September for something else (I woke up deaf in one ear at the weekend!) This is the earliest appointment, I will raise the rash there if its not cleared up by then. I have no pain in my ear and beleive its a build up of wax but it says you need to see your GP so I have made an appointment, just hope its not connected to the scabies (maybe they have set up home in my ear canal :(

@frumpety

Also the horse version of ivermectin is usually contained in a wormer, so would strongly advice against smearing yourself with the stuff as its designed to pass through the horses digestive tract, not be applied to human skin.

The person on the other site mentioned ingesting it but said not to have the one with something beginning with P. This is an extract from their post

single doses of Ivermectin were not sufficient. I had to use double my weight in horse Ivermectin. Thankfully it us the same medication and very cheap. It finally killed them all. It didn’t hurt me to double the dose. I took a double dose two times a week (Day 1, 4, 7, 10) and it completely eradicated them. I have more on hand just in case too. It’s cheap medicine and works wonders

Well I know nothing about X. I have never been involved in X. I wasn't even anywhere near the place you say X occurred.

Proof showing opposite is true.

Backpedal. Backtrack. Excuse.

To reiterate, this about the fact I made a post in 2017 saying I tutored. Not that I have been revealed to be Matt Hancock, or I'm actually in high school.

[quote frumpety]@Jenasaurus if I were you I would go to a pharmacy and ask their advice, you might be able to take something to help with the itching whilst the cream kills the little bleeders, if it is indeed scabies.[/quote]
I second this, I think there are alternatives to permethrin if the GP won't prescribe ivermectin.

@Jenasaurus, hope to god they didn't take the wormer, you only give it to horses every six months.

I bet you're not actually a speckled ostrich egg either. Everything you post can therefore be disregarded, even if it is backed up by evidence/reason. Particularly if it can't be dismissed in any other way.

@noblegiraffe

I bet you're not actually a speckled ostrich egg either. Everything you post can therefore be disregarded, even if it is backed up by evidence/reason. Particularly if it can't be dismissed in any other way.

Just from a lowly hen A couple of speckles though.

[quote frumpety]@Jenasaurus, hope to god they didn't take the wormer, you only give it to horses every six months.[/quote]
They advised to watch this video which shows how to administer it

www.maximpulse.com/permethrin/ivermectin-calculating-a-dose.html

Just had a quick scout around on the BNF online @Jenasaurus and it says about Ivermection

(available on a named patient basis from ‘special-order’ manufacturers or specialist importing companies) by mouth has been used, in combination with topical drugs, for the treatment of hyperkeratotic (crusted or ‘Norwegian’) scabies that does not respond to topical treatment alone; further doses may be required.

@frumpety

Just had a quick scout around on the BNF online *@Jenasaurus* and it says about Ivermection

(available on a named patient basis from ‘special-order’ manufacturers or specialist importing companies) by mouth has been used, in combination with topical drugs, for the treatment of hyperkeratotic (crusted or ‘Norwegian’) scabies that does not respond to topical treatment alone; further doses may be required.

Thank you for this, I will be going back to my GP later this month if it doesnt heal as there is also some discussion of the itching continuing as it is a reaction to the mites and their eggs etc under the skin so continues even after they die, the skin seals around them and either absrbs or pushes them out so still hopefull mine are dead and my skin is reacting to that rather than new infestation.

Apologies for taking over the thread, but thank you for the useful information, It feels quite lonely with this condition as not something you can talk about with people, so appreciate it

Will leave the thread to be about what it was intended now

They advised to watch this video which shows how to administer it

That video

I quite like that horse dewormer is apple-flavoured though.

Oh dear God @Jenasaurus they are using horse wormers !

Well there's nowt as strange as folk, as we say round here

Although I did hear of a farmer self medicating his infected legs with the stuff they use to wash cow's udders with, it didn't work .

I quite like that horse dewormer is apple-flavoured though

Makes not the slightest bit of difference what flavour it is , the buggers always manage to spit some of it out all over you, as they do with the very expensive tablets you have cunningly tried to hide or crush.