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If the government were honest about the next 4 months

563 replies

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 27/08/2021 12:10

They'd say that children are probably going to catch covid, there is nothing to stop this happening. Lots of families will probably catch it off their children, school staff will probably catch it off children too.

Education is going to be disrupted again if the above happens. No way around it. But it could be 'over' by November when the bad weather kicks in and older folk start getting ill as per usual circumstances. At that point booster vaccs could start.

It's definitely 'an approach', but not telling people that this is the plan is unfair. Do you think people have realised this yet? Or are the Emperor's new clothes still in view?

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puppeteer · 27/08/2021 19:33

@Peteycat

isn't possible to keep society running if transmission rates get too high, that's the problem. It causes huge disruption to healthcare, education etc, when you have a significant proportion of the population sick or having to isolate.

"Living with it" means keeping it at manageable levels to prevent this happening, or any further national lockdowns.

So you think you know better? Honestly this is ridiculous.

I don’t buy it… we’ll, I do in extremis.

But even at relatively high positive test levels, it’s just crack on and chin up time, TBH.

At this point, most people are more worried about what a disruption the next lockdown or travel list change will be, rather than how bad the disease is. (And rightly so in my book.)

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:34

Mmm but you push it.

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:35

I've no doubt that they will if they feel its necessary, but it's like you want it the way you repeatedly mention it. I find it comical too.

ollyollyoxenfree · 27/08/2021 19:36

@Peteycat

Yes, but Florence Nightingale was an amazing lady who didn't hide behind her ring doorbell.

Obviously sanitation is important. Including hand washing etc. Masks and constant testing can't go on forever.

You stated extensively why you are against masks (including that dogs are scared of them), but what reasons do you have against testing?

Buying heads in sands about case numbers, new variants, who could be an active case, during an infectious disease pandemic, seems a little foolish

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:38

this point, most people are more worried about what a disruption the next lockdown or travel list change will be, rather than how bad the disease is. (And rightly so in my book.)

Yes, speaking to most that's the general feeling.

ollyollyoxenfree · 27/08/2021 19:39

@Peteycat

I've no doubt that they will if they feel its necessary, but it's like you want it the way you repeatedly mention it. I find it comical too.
You keep throwing this around too! Please show any of my posts that demonstrate "what I want" when it comes to restrictions, or that I keep mentioning them.

I tend to comment most on the fraudulent coronavirus drugs people keep pushing and vaccination, not restrictions tbh.

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:39

You stated extensively why you are against masks (including that dogs are scared of them), but what reasons do you have against testing?

Buying heads in sands about case numbers, new variants, who could be an active case, during an infectious disease pandemic, seems a little foolish

I don't Bury my head in any sand. I pull my knickers up and look at the real world and get things done. How long do you think we test for then?

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:41

So are you saying that you don't want restrictions olly?

ollyollyoxenfree · 27/08/2021 19:43

@Peteycat

So are you saying that you don't want restrictions olly?
Your question doesn't make sense. There's a huge variety of NPRs that could used - which specifically are you referring to?

As I've said - when case numbers get too high there's no choice in whether to apply suppression policies (e.g., like restricting hospital visitors, or requiring a negative test before an appointment).

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:45

As I've said - when case numbers get too high there's no choice in whether to apply suppression policies (e.g., like restricting hospital visitors, or requiring a negative test before an appointment

Purely your opinion.

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:45

If my question didn't make sense, how come you answered it?

ollyollyoxenfree · 27/08/2021 19:46

@Peteycat

If my question didn't make sense, how come you answered it?
I replied, asking for more information so I could answer it...
Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:47

Oh OK thanks.

borntobequiet · 27/08/2021 19:48

@Peteycat

Yes, but Florence Nightingale was an amazing lady who didn't hide behind her ring doorbell.

Obviously sanitation is important. Including hand washing etc. Masks and constant testing can't go on forever.

Uh?
Peteycat · 27/08/2021 19:54

Born to be quiet what don't you understand?

ollyollyoxenfree · 27/08/2021 19:57

Why are you against testing @Peteycat?

borntobequiet · 27/08/2021 19:59

My post was just pointing out to a pp that Florence Nightingale was instrumental in introducing hand hygiene. I have no idea what doorbells have to do with it.

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 20:01

I was being silly. Highlighting that she was a brave woman. She didn't hide away, she helped others. Nursed others. Do you understand what I mean now?

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 20:02

Who said I was against testing!? I'm against indefinite testing.

saltedcaramel87 · 27/08/2021 20:02

@Peteycat

I was being silly. Highlighting that she was a brave woman. She didn't hide away, she helped others. Nursed others. Do you understand what I mean now?
Are you actually Boris Johnson circa 2020? This is sounding depressingly familiar Grin
Peteycat · 27/08/2021 20:04

Haha no I'm not Boris!!

mrshoho · 27/08/2021 20:07

When do you want testing to end peteycat? I don't think anyone wants indefinite testing do they? Have you got a fixed date when you want to stop testing?

SonnetForSpring · 27/08/2021 20:09

@botanics

I am in Scotland and we are two weeks into the school term. My DD managed 4 days back to school before testing positive. There are now 6 children off with covid in a class of 25. Because other children in a class are no longer required to isolate (they are no longer considered close contacts) it is spreading like wildfire. The class cannot be sent home because this is no longer guidance. In this situation it is going to spread to children, parents and teachers far more quickly than before when the whole class would have been made to isolate.

So I agree that this is basically now the government's plan - they just aren't admitting it.

Sounds like it.
Peteycat · 27/08/2021 20:12

I'm not opposed to people testing. I'm opposed to people requiring others to test before going into places like was said earlier. If you are poorly, stay at home. If you are fine with no symptoms why continue to test? Don't you think it's become absurd?

Peteycat · 27/08/2021 20:13

Is it only me who worries about the impact on the environment with Al this testing and plastic?