Are you letting child have the vaccine?

[GiveMeAUserName123]

I was just wondering if you have a child/ren between the ages of 12-16, that don’t have any medical conditions, or live with family members that are more at risk, will you be letting them have the vaccine?

My eldest will be turning 12 in the winter and I imagine will be given the choice to have it. I don’t think I want her too (I’ve had mine) but obviously it’s her body and her choice which is something that is held in high regard at home, so won’t voice against it, but if she does choose to have it, is she too young to decide something like this, as I’m not sure a child could really understand the full risk/benefit side of things.

How are you feeling about it in general?

With all the talk about the vaccine immunity waning I do wonder if building natural immunity is better when they are young. Otherwise if they don’t keep up vaccine they risk catching Covid when they are older and likely to have worse impact. Of natural immunity may also wear off a bit but I think it is likely to me better than vaccine induced.

16yo had it yesterday. I wanted him to before starting 6th form and he wanted to just the same as he wanted his tetanus booster and MenACWY...

do wonder if these surveys are less than accurate and purposely designed to encourage confidence and update in kids.

That is a very good point. How do we know?

I agree about in rl everyone I speak to is waiting it out. Its just mumsnet that has the ones loudly proclaiming they are vaccinating their children. Don't hear it anywhere else.

know it's only my anecdotal evidence of one-but every single parent I've spoken to in rl has said they won't vaccinate. Family, friends, colleagues, school mums, majority of whom are double vaxxed themselves so definitely no generalised anti vax opinions going on. Must be 50 people at an estimate

Wow-that’s the completely opposite of my friends and family. We have been talking about it over the last few days-those with 16/17 year olds have just been done and all were really keen to have 12-15s done, particularly the kids themselves. Mostly NHS staff.

I haven't read the full thread but all the people saying no, you realise it isn't your choice right? Even as early teens they can consent for themselves and do not need parental permission for medical interventions. Likewise they can refuse for themselves. Gillick competency.

Quarantine Queen that's already been discussed.

I don't think you realise that the school still has a duty of care to inform the parents.

@Peteycat

I agree about in rl everyone I speak to is waiting it out. Its just mumsnet that has the ones loudly proclaiming they are vaccinating their children. Don't hear it anywhere else.

Really? My dd is 16 and has had her first shot, and so have almost all of her friends.

All of you saying it's the childrens choice, well do you think the school is going to vaxx them by sneaky stealth? No, they will have to inform when they are doing it, what if the child has a reaction?

Yes alexashutup, like I said it's only mn I hear of this.

@Howshouldibehave

know it's only my anecdotal evidence of one-but every single parent I've spoken to in rl has said they won't vaccinate. Family, friends, colleagues, school mums, majority of whom are double vaxxed themselves so definitely no generalised anti vax opinions going on. Must be 50 people at an estimate

Wow-that’s the completely opposite of my friends and family. We have been talking about it over the last few days-those with 16/17 year olds have just been done and all were really keen to have 12-15s done, particularly the kids themselves. Mostly NHS staff.

This is how it goes though. Those with higher education levels in the less deprived areas are more likely to mix with others with higher education levels, and they are all more likely to identify the lower risk of vaccine than illness. Lower education and higher deprivation are more likely to mix together, but are less likely to decide to vaccinate. Sadly covid has always affected more deprived areas to a greater extent, and the disruption remains more likely in those areas even if vaccines are made available to kids.

MRex, what an odd opinion. You have no idea where anyone on here lives. I don't live in a deprived area, quite the opposite and most parents I know are highly educated. They are not vaccinating their children.

Ireland recently started vaccinating 12-16 year olds. I have 2 in this age group and they have been vaccinated. Most of my 15 year olds friends have had it, as have their similarly aged cousins.
I have one friend who is hesitant as she has a close family member who had a bad reaction, but she is undecided rather than definitely against it.

@Peteycat

Yes alexashutup, like I said it's only mn I hear of this.

Yes, I get that. My point is that it's only on MN that I hear about all these people who don't want their kids vaccinated.

I guess it just depends on the social circles you move in.

@MRex I’m highly educated and yes, most of our friends are highly educated professionals and live in less deprived areas and more would probably be classed as ‘vaccine hesitant’ irt vaccinating their children against coronavirus.

I think there was a study from the US recently that showed that people with PhDs were the least likely to be vaccinated.

Its only on MN where see posters are chomping at the bit for their kids to have it

Yep.

My point is that it's only on MN that I hear about all these people who don't want their kids vaccinated

Yes, me too!

I am pretty hopeful that 12-15s will be offered the jab in the next month or two-fingers crossed.

think there was a study from the US recently that showed that people with PhDs were the least likely to be vaccinated.

Really Bumbley that's interesting.

I am pretty hopeful that 12-15s will be offered the jab in the next month or two-fingers crossed.

Why Howshouldibehave?

My 16vyr old made the decision herself. She wanted it.

think there was a study from the US recently that showed that people with PhDs were the least likely to be vaccinated.

Yes.

[quote bumbleymummy]@MRex I’m highly educated and yes, most of our friends are highly educated professionals and live in less deprived areas and more would probably be classed as ‘vaccine hesitant’ irt vaccinating their children against coronavirus.

I think there was a study from the US recently that showed that people with PhDs were the least likely to be vaccinated.[/quote]
I'm also educated to post grad level, as are most of my friends and DH and his friends - they're mostly PhDs and plenty of medics. Adults all vax but no one in favour of getting kids vaccinated

Renegade Pasta that's interesting too.

In Italy and France they have made the green pass necessary in order to attend things like swimming lessons and football club in this age group, to try to address parents' reticence. It's working and I think we have to accept that 12-15 year olds make up a significant part of the UK population and need to be vaccinated in order to reach the highest percentage possible herd immunity at a population level. I doubt anyone is really chomping at the bit for this. It is a necessary risk, like many vaccines, for the common good.

Those with higher education levels in the less deprived areas are more likely to mix with others with higher education levels, and they are all more likely to identify the lower risk of vaccine than illness. Lower education and higher deprivation are more likely to mix together, but are less likely to decide to vaccinate.

That's not true. MMR refusal is higher in the middle classes than in more deprived areas. For some reason people believe that their non medical, non scientific degree make them more intelligent than epidemiologists and doctors.🙄