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Vaccine in 12-16 year olds?

272 replies

beckypv · 17/08/2021 11:31

I’m trying to work understand the real reason why 12-16 aren’t currently being offered the vaccine. I know they have said that it is because they are still weighing up the personal risk benefit to the child. Is that actually true? or is it because they are not yet in a position logistically to role it out fully to this age group, or they are actually thinking globally in terms of diverting vaccine resources to the rest of the world?
I ask this because my 12 year old son falls into the general ‘vulnerable category’ because he is on multiple immunosuppressant drugs and will be offered the vaccine soon. We have been told over the last year that JIA kids are no more vulnerable to Covid than other kids, therefore I am concerned he has been put in the vulnerable catagory under a wide sweeping brush and that actually it is no more appropriate for him to have the covid vaccine than other children.
So basically, we want to make to correct decision for him so am trying to understand the science behind not vaccinating children versus the political message.
Hope that makes sense 😀

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2021 19:08

Why anyone would want to get their healthy kid vaccinated
when this is the case baffles me

To keep them that way?

EarringsandLipstick · 17/08/2021 19:12

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Why anyone would want to get their healthy kid vaccinated when this is the case baffles me

To keep them that way?

👏👏👏 Perfectly said!
Lougle · 17/08/2021 19:34

For me, despite not having any condition that puts DD1 on the CEV list, her history tells me that she goes down very hard with any illness. A simple cold knocks her for six. Getting her period means she loses her appetite for several days (she's had an eating disorder recently). She just can't afford to get even moderately ill from Covid.

Watapalava · 17/08/2021 20:04

kids vaccine passports are already in use for travel to europe

I've just been spain and it cost me £200 in pre departure tests fr teens. If they'd been vaccinated they wouldn't need the test

The vaccines have been approved but JVCI have still stated risk outweighs benefit - 90% kids have antibodies

My kids wont be vaccinated to protect people who've refused the vaccine. (those for whom the vaccine doesn't work will always be at risk)

We have been told time and time again we would be vaccinating for society benefits only - that it's an ethical issue.

Parents vaccinating healthy kids baffles me - who puts others above their kids - strange parenting

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2021 20:11

Who says 90% of kids have antibodies?

I work at my DD’s school. There is no way on Gods earth that 90% have antibodies.

About 8% of kids have had it.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2021 20:12

In her school.

As l said people vaccinate healthy kids to doh.., keep them that way.

Peteycat · 17/08/2021 20:19

I really feel for parents with vulnerable children right now, I really do. But, it's definitely better to wait for non vulnerable children. No child should have the burden of protecting adults or the wider community. That's so so wrong.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2021 20:20

No child should have the burden of protecting adults or the wider community. That's so so wrong.

We all need to protect the wider community. That’s what a civilised society does. Children too.

bumbleymummy · 17/08/2021 20:21

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Who says 90% of kids have antibodies?

I work at my DD’s school. There is no way on Gods earth that 90% have antibodies.

About 8% of kids have had it.

I think the ons found that it was 40% in post primary schools at the start of July.
bumbleymummy · 17/08/2021 20:22

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

No child should have the burden of protecting adults or the wider community. That's so so wrong.

We all need to protect the wider community. That’s what a civilised society does. Children too.

No. We should not do something to children that is more for other people’s benefit than their own.
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2021 20:22

Big difference between 40 and 90😁

bumbleymummy · 17/08/2021 20:23

Yep! It’s over 90 in the population from over 16s though so perhaps that’s where it came from?

Peteycat · 17/08/2021 20:24

Thank you bumbleymummy. I feel sometimes I live in a parallel universe to some.

Children rely on us to protect THEM.

That is what a civilised society do. Protect their young.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/08/2021 20:24

Again, that’s not a pattern I’ve seen in my DD’s school.

Maybe 15% of 16 and over.

Watapalava · 17/08/2021 20:32

Data shows the vast majority of kids don't get symptoms so majority of kids could have had it and you wouldn't know

Our school did the ons study - every case they found was asymptomatic

AllTheSingleLadiess · 17/08/2021 20:33

How big is your school out of interest ?

AllTheSingleLadiess · 17/08/2021 20:33

And did they test adults as well as the kids?

CrazyNeighbour · 17/08/2021 20:36

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Appuskidu · 17/08/2021 20:39

Hoping 12-16s get the option to have the jab very soon.

lannistunut · 17/08/2021 20:39

Maybe the approval of Moderna will prompt a 'reappraisal' of the risks/benefits, as it was pfizer they were most short of, wasn't it?

bumbleymummy · 17/08/2021 20:58

@lannistunut

Maybe the approval of Moderna will prompt a 'reappraisal' of the risks/benefits, as it was pfizer they were most short of, wasn't it?
I don’t think it was a shortage of the vaccine that led to the jcvi’s decision. It was to do with risk/benefit for children. Considering their low risk of the virus, the benefit of the vaccine was low when weighed against the risk of potential side effects.
bumbleymummy · 17/08/2021 21:00

@CrazyNeighbour not necessarily. The risk to children in the U.K. may be lower because of the higher uptake in the adult population. It also means that vaccinating children would have less of an impact on others too. (This was discussed in the JCVI statement)

Mango1982 · 17/08/2021 21:02

Hi eveyone a video from the jvci

He’s the one who decided to jab kids have a look at his interview and decided

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1427168031730507777?s=20

Mango1982 · 17/08/2021 21:06

Please watch this twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1427168031730507777?s=20