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Sajid Javid - arrogant, insensitive?

280 replies

RoisinD · 25/07/2021 07:56

SJ coming under fire from many for his tweet yesterday following his full recovery from his Covid-19 diagnosis. As Health Secretary he should have chosen his words more carefully and been more sensitive to those who lost loved ones, suffering long covid etc
Link to his tweet

twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1418932718847541248

Link to Yvette Cooper Labour MP's retweet and response

twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1419064768837599235

OP posts:
marieantoinehairnet · 25/07/2021 09:37

Lockdown isn't required, sensibility, basic rules and common sense would keep it all in check, circa pre June, but no, you want to get out there gyrating your germs over us all because you're double jabbed and you don't give a shit

Chloemol · 25/07/2021 09:37

What was that saying?

Ah yes

Stocks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me

As everyone knows he is talking about getting the vaccine, not those unfortunate to have died

Whatshouldicallme · 25/07/2021 09:37

@ChristmasShearwater

And the NHS treating the patients it so shamefully turned its back on.

Now there's a ridiculous comment. Unlike many who've been sat wfh or on furlough, the NHS have been risking their own health and lives whilst working to the bone for no extra pay or benefit since March 2020. But you already knew that, so I can only imagine you are just trying to inflame the masses...

Chloemol · 25/07/2021 09:38

Sticks not stocks

SunbathingDragon · 25/07/2021 09:38

I get the sentiment but he didn’t phrase it well or tactfully.

ChristmasShearwater · 25/07/2021 09:39

some people Dave a true gauntlet of risk each snd every single day, just to do the basics like shoo, work and school

Could you read what you've written before you post. Who's Dave? What's shoo?

Covidforever · 25/07/2021 09:42

@ChristmasShearwater

Sending you a hug, you need one, talk about heartless

God don't hug me. I'm not heartless, I'm double jabbed and ready to get the economy flourishing. And the NHS treating the patients it so shamefully turned its back on.

Some of you are gagging for another lockdowm.

Yep i'm alright jack!

Millions haven't even had a vaccine, millions more just one dose.

Vaccine rates very low now - they'll be at risk of serious illness for months to come but who cares? so long as you can go about your business.

NHS wont be treating these patients, its not got the staff or the resources to do so, even SJ said waiting lists could reach 13m.

IsobelEd · 25/07/2021 09:42

What about all the people (including teens) who have not been offered two jabs.
The immunocompromised people for whom the jab might not be effective?
The few people (I know one) who had such a serious reaction to jab 1 that they've been advised not to have their second.
The people for whom Covid puts fear into their hearts because they can't afford to isolate and not go to work?
His tweet smacks heavily of "I'm alright Jack"

DumplingsAndStew · 25/07/2021 09:42

Maybe his tweet was directed at his colleagues, MPs. After all, whilst the rest of the nation is encouraged, even forced, back to work and school buildings, the House of Commons is still practically empty. Maybe MPs and Parliament need to stop "cowering" at home?

ChristmasShearwater · 25/07/2021 09:42

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noblegiraffe · 25/07/2021 09:42

Chloe that trite statement is seen through as facile by children, so applying it to a public statement by a prominent member of government is just embarrassing.

casualnamechange · 25/07/2021 09:43

I mean, he’s a complete twat and the vast majority of the public aren’t “cowering”. I have a few family members still disinfecting post, and I think that falls under quite extreme anxiety rather than cowering.
I do think we need to learn to live with it at some point, though, and I imagine most people would agree with that.

Noterook · 25/07/2021 09:45

@ChristmasShearwater

Now there's a ridiculous comment. Unlike many who've been sat wfh or on furlough, the NHS have been risking their own health and lives whilst working to the bone for no extra pay or benefit since March 2020.

No, they weren't furloughed, they were sitting in empty wards on full pay. Thousands of cancer sufferers are facing worse outcomes because they weren't diagnosed or treated. That's a fact, not inflammatory. And it wasn't just people with cancer.

Do people genuinely believe this? If only those who were redeployed had been told they could have sat doing fuck all.
noblegiraffe · 25/07/2021 09:46

The government is relying on the public taking personal responsibility over the summer, to meet friends outside where possible, to wear masks in crowded indoor places. They have taken away the mandate to do this and have instead urged people to be sensible.

And now the Health Secretary is saying that continuing to be cautious is cowering? Talk about mixed fucking messages.

starfro · 25/07/2021 09:47

I think he's quite right. Just a load of faux-outrage from the left who are actively cheering on the virus. They are the ones that should be ashamed.

As cases drop expect more and more desperation as it becomes apparent that the UK strategy overall has been pretty good.

TheSquashyHatOfMrGnosspelius · 25/07/2021 09:51

He's a dick for writing this. No thought whatsoever gone into it. I hate this government.

Noterook · 25/07/2021 09:51

@starfro

I think he's quite right. Just a load of faux-outrage from the left who are actively cheering on the virus. They are the ones that should be ashamed.

As cases drop expect more and more desperation as it becomes apparent that the UK strategy overall has been pretty good.

I don't think ours has been overly good, but I do follow some people in oz and they've been sharing the stay home, protect others message we had last year, it did seem like a horrible time warp. I hope they can speed up the vaccine roll out so their numbers remain low and they can get back to normal; being potentially in the place we were is not good and I am relieved we seem to slowly be emerging on the other side.
mrshoho · 25/07/2021 09:52

All the bots are out in force yet again. Must try harder you bs doesn't work. That comment about nhs sitting around is almost identical to posts after the first lockdown trying to persuade us that it was unnecessary. They crawl out of the woodwork stirring it up an spreading misinformation.

Whatshouldicallme · 25/07/2021 09:52

@ChristmasShearwater

I'm not sure where you have got that idea, but it's not true. During periods of mass pressure, routine NHS services are cancelled so that those who normally work in those services can be redeployed to jobs on the newly created COVID wards. The doctors and nurses who normally would be seeing cancer patients are sent to do jobs that are outside of their normal remit so that the NHS can manage the influx of COVID patients, no so they can sit around twiddling their thumbs.

This is going to happen again as hospitalisations increase. When more patients with COVID are in hospital, the NHS has less capacity for other services. It is only when COVID is well managed that the NHS will be able to get back to catching up on providing other services. Letting COVID spread as we are doing now is only going to make the situation for care in the NHS worse.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 25/07/2021 09:52

Useless idiot.

Apparently he was the one insisting on the French restrictions.

greentea5 · 25/07/2021 09:53

Javid's comments are an insult to all those who are clinically extremely vulnerable and have to be very careful about COVID even if they are double jabbed, as well as their friends and family who have to minimise their exposure to COVID as much as possible before visiting. Perhaps keeping the mask mandate in England for those who can wear masks would have made these people feel more comfortable about visiting shops, using public transport etc at the moment. Instead, the government gets rid of the mask mandate and then the Health Secretary tells people not to "cower".

Covidforever · 25/07/2021 09:53

@starfro

I think he's quite right. Just a load of faux-outrage from the left who are actively cheering on the virus. They are the ones that should be ashamed.

As cases drop expect more and more desperation as it becomes apparent that the UK strategy overall has been pretty good.

Yes UK response to CV is stella.

One of the highest deaths rates in the developed world, the biggest ecomomic hit of the G20.

Over a year spent in LD too, made far worse by the delays in timing.

But the far right will never broke any criticism of their illustrious leader!

Notonthestairs · 25/07/2021 09:54

Meh, he's sucking to the ERG/CRG. It's always about internal party politics with the Conservatives. They are all jockeying for sponsors/donors for when Johnson becomes too toxic.

Ghosttile · 25/07/2021 09:54

’the left who are actively cheering on the virus’

If you really believe that you need to seek help.

greentea5 · 25/07/2021 09:55

@starfro

I think he's quite right. Just a load of faux-outrage from the left who are actively cheering on the virus. They are the ones that should be ashamed.

As cases drop expect more and more desperation as it becomes apparent that the UK strategy overall has been pretty good.

I mean this is nonsense. No one is cheering on the virus, and just because you don't agree with the criticism of Javid it doesn't make it "faux-outrage". Cases have only just started to drop and are still very high (over 30,000 cases yesterday).

If this is the sort of argument supporters of the government are making it's pretty desperate.