Sajid Javid - arrogant, insensitive?

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SJ coming under fire from many for his tweet yesterday following his full recovery from his Covid-19 diagnosis. As Health Secretary he should have chosen his words more carefully and been more sensitive to those who lost loved ones, suffering long covid etc
Link to his tweet

twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1418932718847541248

Link to Yvette Cooper Labour MP's retweet and response

twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1419064768837599235

Is Serco's app working then Clav, if we're going to be picky about efficacy.

Boris Johnson says; "if we can get it to work" in the video - Peter Stefanovic reels off a list of so-called 'working apps' in other countries.

Good luck going through that whole video.

I'm going to watch a film now but I have no problem with Boris Johnson calling the £5,000 + nurses' grant a bursary - he would love to come back to the HOC and talk about how successful it's been boosting applications;

BBC Feb 2021
The number of people applying for nursing courses has risen by almost a third (32%), according to statistics from the university admissions service...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56111379

He hasn't 'restored the nurses bursary' has he Clav, unless you're trying to claim that £5000 is 'restoring' what used to be a much bigger sum of money?

@noblegiraffe

Is Serco's app working then Clav, if we're going to be picky about efficacy.

Good luck going through that whole video.

Serco had nothing to do with the app Noble.

Wouldn't John Major have lied to colleagues in Parliament when he was carrying on with Edwina Currie?

Who knows? He was never asked.

All those billions and they didn't even do the app?

@noblegiraffe

All those billions and they didn't even do the app?

As you should know by now, as a regular poster, the tracking app and test and trace are entirely separate.

I didn't realise that the billions spent on test and trace didn't include the app.

Now what I want to know is whether he will continue with previous health secretary advice, of telling people to 'cower' from cigarette smoke. Or, will he change tack and start to encourage an activity that brings in loadsa net gain to the national economy?

We haven't got a Health Secretary, we've got a second Chancellor.

So tell us Sajid. Do we continue to cower from cigarette smoke? I'll assume not - given the newfound government enthusiasm for personal responsibility.

@noblegiraffe

I didn't realise that the billions spent on test and trace didn't include the app.

The App cost a relatively small £50m.

Test and Trace 20/21 has actually only cost £13.5 billion so far out of a budget of £22 billion. The 37 billion oft quoted was "budgeted" for but has not been required due to continued lockdowns.

You might like to read this:

www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Test-and-trace-in-England-progress-update-Summary.pdf

The number of people applying for nursing courses has risen by almost a third (32%), according to statistics from the university admissions service...

Compared to when Clav.....? the figure quoted is up but similar to when real bursaries were available.

Despite the welcomed increase in applicants across the UK, the RCN flagged that these figures only took numbers back to roughly where they were in 2016 before the nursing bursary was axed in England

The removal of the bursary saw a sharp fall in the number of applicants in England in the following years

Which has led to a shortfall of 40k nurses in the NHS - another Tory "success" :( just as we needed them the most.

The App cost a relatively small £50m.

How much per user does that work out at, once they discount all the people who deleted it or ignored it I wonder.

Test and Trace 20/21 has actually only cost £13.5 billion so far out of a budget of £22 billion.

Probably because they made schools do an awful lot of the work...

He could fund nurse training with cigarette tax revenue.

@Tealightsandd Remember when you said ppl should protest in their own home towns instead of all descending on London................

THREAD.

twitter.com/James_Townsend9/status/1419266170864156672?s=20

@noblegiraffe

The App cost a relatively small £50m.

How much per user does that work out at, once they discount all the people who deleted it or ignored it I wonder.

Test and Trace 20/21 has actually only cost £13.5 billion so far out of a budget of £22 billion.

Probably because they made schools do an awful lot of the work...

You do make me chuckle........always have to have the last word.

I'll leave you to it, and go back to the data thread. Much more reliable.

Literally no idea who you are 🤷‍♀️

Even at £13.5 billion, thats a heck of lot of money for something that hasn't really worked.

[quote MercyBooth]@Tealightsandd Remember when you said ppl should protest in their own home towns instead of all descending on London................

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twitter.com/James_Townsend9/status/1419266170864156672?s=20[/quote]
Thanks for the link @MercyBooth

Whatever anyone's views on this particular cause/protest - for or against, he's right. Protests are two a penny in London. That goes for any cause. Unless it's about something specific to London.

That goes for any cause. I think people too often confuse where politicians and financial leaders work with where they live. Very often it's not the same place.

@Covidforever

Even at £13.5 billion, thats a heck of lot of money for something that hasn't really worked.

Would you rather we hadn't done any testing at all? It is inconceivable that we shouldn't have done any testing, tracking or isolating, or monitoring of variants.

This figure also includes all the genomic testing and variant monitoring, which to be fair, we do a huge amount for the global community.

@noblegiraffe

You see the word 'cower' on here a lot and it's always posted by goady twats. Were the huge numbers of dead people just not brave enough as they succumbed to covid?

This. He has apologised quickly - whether due to backlash or not, just admitting an error is a high bar for this government

@mrshoho

Exactly, only one place you find double jabbed suffering terribly with Covid and it’s Mumsnet!!!!

What kind of dick spouts this crap? Think you'll find a fair amount of double jabbed currently in hospital. They wouldn't be in there if they weren't more than mildly unwell.

And this!

@jasjas1973

This is the problem with people like BJ, Hancock and now Javid (Trump and Bolzarano too) they were very lucky, had the best treatment, got over mild versions of CV19 and now see this disease as nothing much to worry about it.

They don't care that others die, just that they aren't blamed for these deaths.

TBF to Hancock someone in his family died from COVID which is why he was actually much more cautious.

It's also why someone decided he needed to be removed via leaking the CCTV as he wasn't in favour of fully opening up.

Would you rather we hadn't done any testing at all? It is inconceivable that we shouldn't have done any testing, tracking or isolating, or monitoring of variants

This figure also includes all the genomic testing and variant monitoring, which to be fair, we do a huge amount for the global community

Considering how badly we've done on deaths, damage to the economy and failure to crack down to prevent rising infections in the Kent area, thats an arguable point.

Sure we do the testing etc but its what you then do with that info that matters - Germany has done so much better but without all this world beating guff we are constantly subjected too, which oft turns out to be nothing but.

@wheresmymojo Thats a good point, i'd forgotten about his uncle wasn't it?