Will there be another lockdown?

[Kate3150]

Read a few articles about this this morning… I didn’t watch Chris Whitty speak. Can’t imagine him actually saying those words?

Thread title edited by MNHQ with OP's agreement

I know people on MN hate hearing this kind of thing, but the NHS workers I know have said they are expecting another lockdown come the autumn.

Bloody hope not.

@DingleyDel- gosh that’s quite scary and I trust the NHS staff more over the media and government. Thanks for sharing this x

I expect restrictions on travelling abroad could be increased at some point over the summer. If there are to be any restrictions re-introduced such as on large gatherings or the sensible decision for masks/face coverings to be compulsory in some settings, my guess is it will happen before Parliament resumes on September 6th. I say this on the grounds that the government tries to avoid any kind of questioning or scrutiny at all costs.

Agree about the sensationalist headlines not matching the story.

@newnortherner111,
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Why would we place restrictions on going abroad when we are the disease epicentre, with the most dangerous variant (well, to date)? The miracle is that we are still welcome there!

Worth remembering @Kate3150 that the opinions of random NHS workers is also just that, an opinion. No one knows what will be happening in a few months. The media want to sell papers and criticise the government. Some people on MN want to sensationalise.

@Kate3150

I know the papers who have reported this tend to sensationalise but I still get caught up in it. That’s quite a bold statement to make mentioning an almost imminent lockdown

If you think it was bold and unsubstantiated why did you post it in the same way? I mean they are looking for click bait and don’t care if they alarm people ……..

I feel sorry for people in the UK.
Outside the UK there are many knowledgeable people looking at “ Freedom Day” and seeing it as anything but freedom - the UK government is taking a huge gamble with lives.

there is an increase in cases, admissions, deaths

You have missed the word 'could' from your title.

There was always going to be an exit wave and to some extent we just need to ride this wave.
If we lockdown again or even impose restrictions, we will have to have another exit wave when we try again.
And it's better to have the exit wave while the kids are on holiday from school and the weather is warmer

That said , how many hospitalisations or deaths are acceptable in an exit wave.. before the govt says no unacceptable..we will try again in a few months

And then the next question is how many times can you try for an exit wave ...3 small exit waves with restrictions in between might be worse than 1 big wave now

Whatever way we come out of the Pandemic stage of this virus it isn't going to be pretty

It may have been better if it were sold as a summer lightening of restrictions, rather than an end to them.

They should have vaccinated children.

The idea that at a population level it is better for them to catch it is a nonsense.

The only upside is a handful less deaths in children (possibly). On the other side of the equation is far more sick children, some for quite some time, many many more deaths overall as they infect older people, and massive economic damage.

It is cowardly to be afraid of the media response to literally a handful of deaths due to vaccine abreaction.

Yabu to read any article in the sun .
We won’t be on lockdown in 5 weeks , we may very well have restrictions by the winter but nobody knows .

He did not say that.

The Sun should be in court for how badly he was misquoted. There’s a reason all they could put in quotes is the “five, six, seven, eight weeks’ time” and notice they couldn’t put any of the quoted bits together in a sentence because he didn’t say it. I watched the bloody talk. He was talking about the amount of people in hospitals at the time and how fast it had the potential to double. It happens at 1:04:56:

“And saying that the numbers in hospital are low does not means the numbers will be low in hospital in five, six, seven, eight weeks’ time; it could really be serious. As Kevin (Dr Kevin Fong) said, if it looks like it is not stopping, we have to look at it very importantly…”
He does continue speaking.

This is just shameful.
Here’s the video:

If a quote is not all together in these marks “ “, it’s because the person didn’t say it, and the Sun is FAMOUS for that. Notice they couldn’t even manage to get the word lockdown in those marks at all because he NEVER said it. It’s just in the headline. Don’t fall for this shite!

@Kate3150

Read a few articles about this this morning… I didn’t watch Chris Whitty speak. Can’t imagine him actually saying those words?

He didn't and the redtops are being ridiculous to stir this up.

He said possible 'restrictions' which could mean anything from masks, to number of people meeting inside, and limits on numbers of people in venues.

If you read his actual words you can’t really sensationalise it thought can you? The NHS uses a model, which I presume is the same as sage. Numbers are doubling. No one knows for sure if numbers of hospitalisations will also double but they will soon have a pretty good idea (imagine sage already do). All he said was that if this happens it won’t take long for it to be unmanageable again for the nhs. Not enough adults are double vaxed and the new variant is so contagious, so it could easily run out of control. I know they are doing booster jabs in the autumn but does this suggest in lots of the population vacs immunity will have worn off slightly? If it gets to all those people before their booster we might not see such a large reduction in hospitalisations. I’m very much looking forward to getting back to normal life but will never assume that’s it’s for lockdowns. I think that would be very naive.

[quote Kate3150]@DingleyDel- gosh that’s quite scary and I trust the NHS staff more over the media and government. Thanks for sharing this x[/quote]
Really? So anyone working in the NHS is a data and infection expert?

@Kate3150 I think you should ask for your post to be removed.

It's scaremongering.

Everyone knows that there is going to be a wave- we are there now, really -b ut talking of another lockdown is irresponsible and you are just as bad as the Sun by misquoting.

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I work in the NHS, it's all going downhill again.

Where do you work?

Thread title is misleading

Please stop getting your news from the Sun. it’s shite.

Sorry I genuinely didn’t mean to upset or scare anyone.

@frasersmummy

There was always going to be an exit wave and to some extent we just need to ride this wave. If we lockdown again or even impose restrictions, we will have to have another exit wave when we try again. And it's better to have the exit wave while the kids are on holiday from school and the weather is warmer

That said , how many hospitalisations or deaths are acceptable in an exit wave.. before the govt says no unacceptable..we will try again in a few months

And then the next question is how many times can you try for an exit wave ...3 small exit waves with restrictions in between might be worse than 1 big wave now

Whatever way we come out of the Pandemic stage of this virus it isn't going to be pretty

This is a good post. I have come to realise that 'this virus being around forever' means there does have to be an 'exit wave', and it's whether you just want one big one, or whether you keep going in and out of restrictions and basically prolong the agony.

I'm pretty sure the like of Australia and New Zealand are going to also have to deal with this at some point, even with a vaccinated population.

I don’t understand. 88% of adults have had at least one dose of vaccination, and 67% have had two doses! So why are numbers going up at such a rate?!