If the app pinged you now, would you isolate?

[musicalfrog]

Just wondering how people are responding at this stage given the changes they want to make to the app (things like sensitivity and NHS/double jabbed status).

Hang on, I have found it. Apparently I was getting my eyebrows done yesterday and was there for 5 hours. They weren't that bad! The Sunday before last I had a pub lunch from 12pm-23.59pm. Amazing.

@Sparklingbrook

Hang on, I have found it. Apparently I was getting my eyebrows done yesterday and was there for 5 hours. They weren't that bad! The Sunday before last I had a pub lunch from 12pm-23.59pm. Amazing.

So according to the app you could have been having your eyebrows done and been in the pub at the same time if you had then gone and checked in there. It would have had you in both places without having left the previous one. Efficient, huh!!🤣

How did she get all the detail from the App? All I could get was the day of the supposed contact.

^^
DD went into settings on the App, then called Track and Trace to have a rant!

It won't ping me I've switched test and trace off.

Deleted the app as they don't tell you where the potential exposure was.

@Notavegan

Deleted the app as they don't tell you where the potential exposure was.

I thought it told you the day and time?

This is the data mine gives.

Why on earth do you have this app?

@dementedma

Dont have the app, never had it. Double vaccinated and just getting on with life

Me too

No I wouldn't as I've deleted the app.

Not really. Most people on here have said they would not isolate. I think your example of killing children is abit extream. Maybe you should speak to someone about your anger issues

@Unanananana

No, the app is not fit for purpose. I had it until my friend got pinged through a brick wall because her next door neighbour tested positive. I couldn't afford to be off for ten days for that sort of thing.

@ifonly4 if you are vaccinated you have a lower chance of transmitting it to my children who have a very very low risk of becoming seriously ill. I would take that risk to ensure my children get their education. The guidelines for isolation are all coming to an end shortly. What difference does a few weeks make?

We need to learn to live with this now. We cannot hide in our homes forever.

Well said

@PandemicPalava

I don't know why everyone is having a go at *@Mummasdiary2021* when this will actually be the rule in a week won't it? Can you blame anyone for not following it now?

Thank you! X

I deleted the app. I'd grudgingly isolate if contacted by T&T but not because of a ping from an app that's not fit for purpose.

I went out for breakfast yesterday morning. My friend checked in with the app but they didn't ask me for any contact details. I thought venues were supposed to get details from all members of the party. I'd have left them if they asked by certainly didn't volunteer any information!

Again, the venue check in is entirely separate from the bluetooth contact tracing. It doesn't matter that you don't check out of a venue, because you will NOT be advised (app is advisory, no legal duty) to SI on that basis - you might be asked to take a test. If you had been at a venue on the same day as several people who tested positive the next day, wouldn't you like to know so you could get tested and perhaps avoid vulnerable friends and relatives till your test result came back?

faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-01312/en-us?parentid=CAT-01035&rootid=

"If it’s identified that people who were there on the same day have since tested positive for coronavirus, you may get an alert with advice on what to do. The venue check-in feature works independently of the contact tracing feature. If you get a venue alert it will not tell you to self-isolate."

I leave my details manually if asked, surely that's good enough?

If you had been at a venue on the same day as several people who tested positive the next day, wouldn't you like to know so you could get tested and perhaps avoid vulnerable friends and relatives till your test result came back?

Only if they were definitely at the venue at the exact same time I was.

@Sparklingbrook no you just an alert to isolate, DH had it recently and it didn't say where the contact was. The only place he'd been without me (and I didn't get it so could only be here) was our DCs school playground and a supermarket. No one else from the school had the alert so by process of elimination it was the supermarket... where he was for 5 minutes, masked up, didn't get close to anyone and used self checkout so really there was no benefit to isolating.

For someone who had been more places it could be near impossible to work out where the potential contact happened.

@Sparklingbrook, well it is entirely up to you. For me, a test is no big deal, the virus is airborne so can linger, and I have vulnerable family and friends. So I would rather know, and I certainly can't see the harm in knowing, given it is advisory anyway.

The main point though is that the two sides of the app are different and only one - the close contact tracing side - can result in a request to SI (not legally binding, unlike those through TnT, so again you can make your own risk assessment).

I don't trust the App at all @MsMartini. I do take regular LFTs (and that's no big deal)and I too have vulnerable people to consider.
We're all managing our own risks and that's the main thing.

got pinged. deleted the app.

had it last year and am double jabbed and took daily lateral flow tests - all were negative.

only another week and then it all releases anyway?

I don't have the app, never have

@Sparklingbrook, yes I agree about risk assessment.

I suppose I find the venue check in helpful in that it gives me extra info on which to base that assessment. If I knew I'd been in a place with lots of cases that day, whether or not we'd been there at the same time, it would seem sensible to sub a PCR for one of my twice-weekly LFDs if advised to do so, and be a bit extra careful for a day or two till the result came back. Or just be a bit more careful if that was what was advised. And I find it reassuring NOT getting check-in alerts . It just doesn't seem that big a deal to me, and it isn't based on a complex algorithm, like the contact tracing side.

I've turned off tracing. I wouldn't isolate, no.

The track and trace is turned off on mine so would never receive the ping