Double jabbed - how safe do you feel?

[PuzzledObserver]

Coverage in the press today about advice to employers being slimmed down - basically it will be up to them to do their own risk assessments and decide on policy in their premises. Also coverage (and a thread already) about Govt plans to make Covid passports compulsory for access to pubs, clubs and restaurants from the Autumn - to encourage take-up of vaccines among the young.

If you are double-jabbed - how safe do you feel and are there things you will still not do?

I am double-jabbed on top of having had Covid. I am happy to meet with small groups of people indoors, but keeping a reasonable distance. I will continue to avoid crowded and cramped places, and to wear a mask on public transport and in shops. The mask is more to protect others in the unlikely event that I am infected.

My logic is that Covid has more chance of overcoming my immunity if I’m exposed to a lot of it all at once, e.g. the crowded stuffy indoor setting, so that is to be avoided. Whereas a ‘glancing blow’ of Covid from a short exposure is unlikely to overcome my immunity. If anything, it will remind my immune system of who the enemy is, and strengthen it.

I am not double jabbed yet, but I know three people who are, who have tested positive for Covid recently. Quite worrying.

lucille
She used to be on all the working mums threads hanging her head in shame for missing all the ‘wee precious moments.’
Legend.

[quote IcedPurple]@CataclysmicVariable
Thank you for that. I'm also sceptical about how accurately these polls predict future behaviour. It's well-known that people often tell pollsters - even in completely anonymous polls - what they feel they 'ought' to say. Hence the 'shy Tory' phenonemon, and the failure to foresee the Trump victory.

Also, if 70% of people want mask wearing to continue, than 70% of mask wearing will continue, surely? Nobody is banned from wearing masks, it just won't be legally mandated after the 19th. It will be interesting to see to what extent people's actions matches their words.[/quote]
But that 70% of people won't just include those who can and do wear masks - it'll also include those who can't wear masks for various reasons and hope others who can will continue to do so to offer them some protection.

Totally safe but then I've worked in a crowded classroom wearing no masks throughout the pandemic!!

Being double jabbed feels much better than how I was Jan/Feb and I'm ready to get on with my life now and give covid very little thought these days.

V safe.

Worked in a school in admin but close contact with yr11s.

Been in pubs and restaurants all last year when they were open, the theatre and cinema at Xmas and am currently on holiday socialising with friends and eating out.

Felt safe before the jab, feel even safer now.

My vaccine should be working in a week's time, and I'll be a bit more relaxed after then. I'll probably start going to church in person, and having a few indoor guests. But I have school-age children who I worry about, and between them and my job in retail, the family will be quite exposed. I'm hoping that most shops will insist on masks being worn. If there's a significant number of people without masks, I'll probably start staying in more.

I'm not so worried about dying, but am worried about long Covid, both for me and my children (I had post viral fatigue several years ago, and had to give up an internship, and the thought of going back to that and being unable to work is really frightening) and that opening up too much now rather than trying to keep Covid rates low will make life harder for children, either through long Covid or more future lockdowns.

@HelloMissus

lucille She used to be on all the working mums threads hanging her head in shame for missing all the ‘wee precious moments.’ Legend.

Good Times 🤣

I did feel safe until I caught covid 3 months after my second vaccine. Now I’m on daily steroids, using inhalers and trying to regain normal lung function while being back at work thanks to a virus I naively believed I was protected from. It’s made me think differently about the easing of restrictions.

Was working (remotely) on Friday alongside someone double jabbed who caught covid and was pretty ill with it. She thought she picked it up in A&E.

@Madwife123 do you mind me asking how old you are and when you had the second vaccine?

Rightly or wrongly I have never been that worried re covid for myself, more re passing it on
So now I, and most of family are double jabbed we are quite relaxed. I live within the rules but have done plenty of socialising, theatre etc

But I will be cautious, wear a mask, do lateral flow testing, meet outside lots etc as ....well, why not? It isn't difficult to be sociable yet cautious where possible?

But I am getting more worried about long covid. Plus with infection rates going up again I am more likely to catch covid and pass it on. Plus increased likelihood of self isolation need

So ....mixed feelings!!

What is ‘pretty ill’ or ‘very poorly’ after two jabs…the specifics for those who are catching it seem missing in most instances. Is it relative to flu? A nasty cold? Are they being hospitalised?

What is ‘pretty ill’ or ‘very poorly’ after two jabs

Yeah I keep seeing this.

It never seems to mean hospitalised though.

Having Two jabs may make you feel safe but the danger is still there for many, complacency could be lethal for some. It’s so important to be aware at all times.

@Thewiseoneincognito

Having Two jabs may make you feel safe but the danger is still there for many, complacency could be lethal for some. It’s so important to be aware at all times.

“Aware”? Haha how delightfully non-specific

@Thewiseoneincognito

Having Two jabs may make you feel safe but the danger is still there for many, complacency could be lethal for some. It’s so important to be aware at all times.

Here be dragons.

I am aware that I am not immortal thewiseone. Cheers.

However many people's risk from Covid was very low to begin with and miniscule now. I expect I'm at much greater risk crossing the road these days.

@CataclysmicVariable surely you’re clever enough to understand what I mean by aware?

@IcedPurple @TheKeatingFive 😘😘

Long Covid risk is 1 in 50 for people who get Covid - this could ruin your life and although the risk of death may be very low, the risk of long Covid is quite significant.

With current Covid rates 660 people every day will develop long Covid.

We can have a sensible conversation about long covid until we precisely define what it is and determine what the actual risk is.

Neither of those things have happened.

Research into 'Long Covid' is ongoing

www.kcl.ac.uk/news/study-identifies-those-most-risk-long-COVID

There's information via the NHS as to what they categorise as Long Covid, including a website regarding recovery from Covid.

I am feeling comfortable.

I obvs don't want to get it, but there is plenty of other stuff that goes round that I don't want to get. I do want to make the most of my life though. So yes, been eating out, going out etc.

There's information via the NHS as to what they categorise as Long Covid

It's really vague, including anyone with any symptoms 4 weeks after diagnosis.

We need clarity on what serious 'long covid' involves and the percentages who get it. At the moment, the data includes people who had no official diagnosis of covid to begin with and people with a sniffy nose 4 weeks after the event.

It's a mess. We can't take any meaningful decisions on what data is available right now.

My sibling has a number of serious long term conditions as the result of a virus. What are minor colds for the rest of us have seen him in and out of hospital a number of times. We don’t as a family blame others for that - it would be crazy to do so though apparently that’s the kind of blame we have to take on now.

I am CEV myself for other reasons. Some of us have been aware for a long time of the risks associated with viruses, with daily living, with contact with other human beings. Of how to balance quality of life with preservation of life. I’m glad most people haven’t had to do that and I really hope that they won’t have to continue to for much longer. It’s absolutely nuts to make people take responsibility for a virus behaving as a virus does.

Safe enough to start going out to eat (outside mostly) and go on holiday. Not so safe that I will abandon social distancing, masks and avoid busy inside places.

I am concerned about possible variants as a result of increased mixing without precautions.

To be honest I'm a bit fatalistic now. If I get covid after taking all the measures I can then so be it as I can't do any more. I'm also CV.