Half vaxxed friends getting Delta

[Porridgeislife]

Has anyone had a notable uptick in friends getting Delta over the last week? I’ve now got 4 friends infected - one very sick (full week off work), two a bit under the weather and one only found out due to a PCR for foreign travel.

We are all mid to late 30s so half vaxxed with Pfizer or Moderna. One has a fully vaxxed mother & husband who haven't been infected whilst her unvaccinated young children have. All working from home and have been for 15 months.

I’ve been quite relaxed about Covid and just taking the usual masks, hands, space precautions suggested by the government (given my age) plus got vaccinated as soon as allowed. However throughout it all, I’ve never had so many friends sick at once - it seems Delta is much, much more contagious?

I have numerous work colleagues who have contracted it who were double jabbed. Some are very ill indeed.

@user1473450164

It's is more contagious and the vaccine won't stop you from catching it. Reduces your chances of catching it but does not eliminate them.

I work in a busy London emergency department. Hardly any patients are been admitted with Covid now, those that are, are firstly not going to critical care.. a statistic you may have noticed was left out of the press briefing yesterday. Now we only talk of admissions not critical care. These admission are staying in hospital wards for a relatively short time. Secondly every admission I have seen has been in unvaccinated people.

I do wonder if your colleagues up here in the North West might be having a different experience. Just in my small part of Lancs we had 2 hospital deaths just in the last week, and over 40 new admissions, and what with the lag between cases and deaths, and with cases and hospital admissions rising inexorably (cases are now at January levels here and still rising), it's bound to get worse. It doesn't seem to me to be the time to relax restrictions, when even the restrictions we have are unable to stop it spreading like wildfire.

I'm always surprised to hear of people posting that they don't know anyone who has covid and wonder if they have a very small circle of friends. But then again, I live in a university city, with a large teaching hospital, was working in a secondary school through COVID till very recently, and now in primary, and have teenagers in a third school, so have plenty of experience with the situation in schools as well as knowledge passed on from relatives who are medical staff in the hospitals.

Yes, my experience of current infection rate correlates to what most are saying on here. Rife, increasing, double vaxxed are getting infected. I know people who were very badly affected by COVID in the first wave, some have long COVID etc, but I don't know anyone who currently has or recently had an infection who has had to be hospitalised.

I am most concerned for the vulnerable and critically vulnerable now that restrictions will be lifted and schools go back to normal at the end of term. The vaccines won't stop them getting COVID, but we have yet to see how the vaxxed vulnerable will be affected by it, I think, as most of that group are still being very careful, and we still have restrictions in place. Will it also just be like flu for them? It must be a scary thought for them. I would be interested to see stats specifically for the vulnerable groups who have tested positive post vaccine.

OP where have you been for the past two months or so?

Don't you read the news?

You are expressing surprise that Delta is more contagious.

What?

where on earth have you been for the past two months?

I don’t have a huge circle of friends, but my daughter is at nursery and back in Sept/Oct she was constantly having to isolate due to staff members testing positive, but now nothing, also in winter lots of work colleagues had it, I work for a big company, but now only one I’ve heard of…also I have a large extended family and no one has reported having it. That said I live in a non hotspot area and people I know may have had it asymptomatically 🤷‍♀️

I’ve got work colleagues who’ve had family members with the delta variant. The delta variant is much more contagious and the vaccines are slightly less effective as I understand

My concern is whether yet another variant comes along and renders the vaccines useless. That’s what happens if you let it circulate even more so.

Sorry @BlueMongoose, Boris doesn't give a fuck about the North.
I say this in solidarity as a resident of Chester.

I still only know about 4 people that have had it, and everyone recovered. Haven't known anyone with it in over six months now (but in low prevalence area).

Are the systems for the Delta variant the same as for covid originally ie lost of taste/smell, persistent cough and fever? I am on the Zoe app and it said for those of us double jabbed, the symptons are more like a cold so sore throat, sneezing, running nose etc - like hayfever!

………….I’ve now got 4 friends infected - one very sick (full week off work)………..

They should be taking longer than a week off and thats not very sick…

Very sick is in hospital

Its always been known that the Delta variant is much more contagious

Is the penny not dropping yet???

IndigoC

“Or we could do what our East Asian friends have always done and keep wearing masks on public transit to protect our vulnerable from colds, flus and Covid-19.

It’s such a tiny thing, a small act of empathy, I don’t understand why it bothers Brits so“

Absolutely, that’s all part and parcel of learning to live with it as far as I’m concerned. Our family will continue to do so and socially distance too whenever we reasonably can. Covid aside, none of us, including my CEV husband and youngest asthmatic child have been ill during the past 16 months (aside from condition-related problems) which to me speaks for itself.

We spent a lot of time with work in Hong Kong/Singapore and Tokyo over 25 years ago: even then, masks were commonplace. In Tokyo in particular, taxi drivers, bus and train drivers/conductors and food retail assistants all wore gloves.

I don’t understand the British mask outrage either.

Learning to live with it doesn’t mean throwing caution to the wind and being daft.

BlueMongoose

I do wonder if your colleagues up here in the North West might be having a different experience. Just in my small part of Lancs we had 2 hospital deaths just in the last week, and over 40 new admissions, and what with the lag between cases and deaths, and with cases and hospital admissions rising inexorably (cases are now at January levels here and still rising), it's bound to get worse. It doesn't seem to me to be the time to relax restrictions, when even the restrictions we have are unable to stop it spreading like wildfire.“

In Lancashire too. Do you know the vaccine status of the hospital admissions you mention?

Bluemongoose

Yes you may well be right with the hospitals in the NW having a greater number of patients been admitted more than London, however the majority of those patients are not going to critical care, they are on the wards and not having extended stays which is an extremely important difference between now and pre vaccine Covid.

I agree that not all rules should be relaxed, especially the wearing of masks indoors. Just more stupidity from our bloody stupid government!

Don’t think we’re being brainwashed at all. I had the AZ - second jab at the end of April. Had Covid at the beginning of February just after the first jab and was dreadfully ill with it. On monday of last week I tested positive on both LFT and follow up PCR, later developing symptoms which laid me low for a few days. Definitely less severe than first time round but still enough to make me feel really ill - however I was up and around after five days and starting to feel better, as opposed to being bedridden for nearly two weeks the first time round, and taking weeks to recover. This is how the vaccine is supposed to work isn’t it ? The only thing I find it really irksome that on both occasions I contracted Covid after hospital appointments.

It feels like people think the vaccine will instantly make everyone safe and unable to spread it, it won't. I now know someone who was double vacinated, young and healthy and yet has died from the virus last week, don't now which variant, she leaves behind 2 young children. I wish people would understand that it simply isn't the case that will immeadiately mean they can't catch it and if they do it will be fine. Even if I could have the vaccine I still would have been cautious and not relied on it alone. My situation is different, I'm 39 so a bit older than she was and ECV, been told can't have the vaccine due to allergies as too dangerous for me. But even if I could as I say I wouldnt rely on it, I'd continue to be careful as I can when out and about whilst still trying to get on with life.

@pam290358 thats really worrying, I'm going have alot of hospital appointments in a few months :/

@CurlyhairedAssassin. Both myself and my partner are clinically vulnerable and were vaccinated accordingly. We had only just had our first AZ jab when we contracted Covid. We had the second at the end of April and as I said in my post, I contracted it again at the beginning of last week and although quite ill with it for a few days, the second dose didn’t involve as many symptoms and I’m on the road to recovery in just over a week, whereas first time round it took weeks. Definitely worse than a dose of flu though and the fear factor is still there as you don’t know how bad it will get. We’re still being very careful and apart from necessary GP and hospital visits we don’t go out, still don’t have visitors and most shopping is done online. Cases here are rising steeply and several of our fully vaccinated neighbours have contracted it again in the last couple of weeks.

Wildchild please don't worry about your hospital appointments. I had a family member who was seriously ill and in hospital in Oct/Nov last year when there were no vaccinations and cases were high. She was in hospital for 3 weeks. I visited every day. Neither of us got covid. My DH has had a routine operation in the last month and 3 follow up appointments. No issues.

Where are you all on the country where you know of so many doubly vaccinated people who have covid?. I'm genuinely curious. I'm in London and know of no-one who has covid and have only known of one person in months?

In the country, not on the country. Sorry for typo.

I'm in northwest, theres only 2 healthy people I know who have been doubly vaccinated the rest are vulnerable or ECV.

@CurlyhairedAssassin

I'm always surprised to hear of people posting that they don't know anyone who has covid and wonder if they have a very small circle of friends. But then again, I live in a university city, with a large teaching hospital, was working in a secondary school through COVID till very recently, and now in primary, and have teenagers in a third school, so have plenty of experience with the situation in schools as well as knowledge passed on from relatives who are medical staff in the hospitals.

Yes, my experience of current infection rate correlates to what most are saying on here. Rife, increasing, double vaxxed are getting infected. I know people who were very badly affected by COVID in the first wave, some have long COVID etc, but I don't know anyone who currently has or recently had an infection who has had to be hospitalised.

I am most concerned for the vulnerable and critically vulnerable now that restrictions will be lifted and schools go back to normal at the end of term. The vaccines won't stop them getting COVID, but we have yet to see how the vaxxed vulnerable will be affected by it, I think, as most of that group are still being very careful, and we still have restrictions in place. Will it also just be like flu for them? It must be a scary thought for them. I would be interested to see stats specifically for the vulnerable groups who have tested positive post vaccine.

I don't know anyone who currently has Covid and I work in a factory with over 100 people, have a DS at primary school, a family member working in a school and my mum works in one of the largest hospitals in the country.

About 20% of my work colleagues had the Kent variant in January but no one so far this time around. No bubbles popped in DS's school since March.

2140 patients admitted last 7 days

2090 patients in hospital

2000 hospitals

Given admissions have been 200-400 for weeks now they must only be in a couple days max as 2000 a week would be growing now but the turnover must be fast which is good

So vaccinated or not the huge vast majority are not seriously ill

@wildchild554

It feels like people think the vaccine will instantly make everyone safe and unable to spread it, it won't. I now know someone who was double vacinated, young and healthy and yet has died from the virus last week, don't now which variant, she leaves behind 2 young children. I wish people would understand that it simply isn't the case that will immeadiately mean they can't catch it and if they do it will be fine. Even if I could have the vaccine I still would have been cautious and not relied on it alone. My situation is different, I'm 39 so a bit older than she was and ECV, been told can't have the vaccine due to allergies as too dangerous for me. But even if I could as I say I wouldnt rely on it, I'd continue to be careful as I can when out and about whilst still trying to get on with life.

That's interesting. From this I assume your friend who died is younger than 39 as you say she is younger than you, and has had 2 vaccines yet the data from PHE states that there is no recorded case of anyone under the age of 50 who has died after 2 Covid vaccines in the UK.

This is been monitored very closely globally as we pretty much as the guinea pig country to see how effective the vaccine is through the 3rd wave.