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Half vaxxed friends getting Delta

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Porridgeislife · 05/07/2021 14:57

Has anyone had a notable uptick in friends getting Delta over the last week? I’ve now got 4 friends infected - one very sick (full week off work), two a bit under the weather and one only found out due to a PCR for foreign travel.

We are all mid to late 30s so half vaxxed with Pfizer or Moderna. One has a fully vaxxed mother & husband who haven't been infected whilst her unvaccinated young children have. All working from home and have been for 15 months.

I’ve been quite relaxed about Covid and just taking the usual masks, hands, space precautions suggested by the government (given my age) plus got vaccinated as soon as allowed. However throughout it all, I’ve never had so many friends sick at once - it seems Delta is much, much more contagious?

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changingstages · 06/07/2021 23:43

@Odisia

Where are you all on the country where you know of so many doubly vaccinated people who have covid?. I'm genuinely curious. I'm in London and know of no-one who has covid and have only known of one person in months?
I'm in Essex but all except one of the people I know are in London. All north London, now I come to think of it (Haringey/Camden). The other is in Surrey (Guildford).

One is in hospital (the Surrey one) and the others have all been at home throughout.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/07/2021 23:59

@Odisia

User147 thank you. I don't believe everything I'm reading here either. It just doesn't stack up with official figures. I don't doubt many of the posts, but I also think there is scaremongering. I live in an area of London where there is around 100 cases per 100,000. That means many more people who don't have covid than do. However I do recognise that cases are rising quickly. Deaths are not, which is very positive.
I already posted that I know of a number of positives at the moment and some in double Vaxxed people. I’m in Liverpool. 430 cases per 100,000 population, up from 273 last week and just 84 3 weeks ago. In one ward it’s 700 and something per 100,000.

Does seem to suggest that once it’s hit an area rates tend to rise very fast (in urban areas anyway)

CurlyhairedAssassin · 07/07/2021 00:04

Sorry that rate is just for general population. I don’t know how many people are double vaxxed who are positive out of those. All I know is the adults who are 40 plus I know testing positive have been jabbed.

cupcakecourageous · 07/07/2021 00:25

Yes, 5 people I know have tested positive recently. (Covid hotspot here!)

3 of them double vaxed and 2 of them with only 1 vaccination.

Varying degrees of severity of illness from symptomless to very very poorly. No hospital admissions though and they've all now fully recovered.

cupcakecourageous · 07/07/2021 00:26

To answer PP - I'm in the North West. It's rife here!

SiennaSienna · 07/07/2021 02:57

Sorry to interject, I am abroad and don’t have the full info. For those saying that it’s going round in schools, are children still required to wear masks in class?

CosmicHeat · 07/07/2021 07:19

More contagious variant or side effects of the vaxx? Delta seems to be a variant of the vaccinated.

TatianaBis · 07/07/2021 07:34

It’s not really the time to be lifting all restrictions, so I wonder what the government is playing at.

LittleMissMe99 · 07/07/2021 07:48

I actually don't personally know a single person who has had covid (of any sorts)

Kazzyhoward · 07/07/2021 07:49

@TatianaBis

It’s not really the time to be lifting all restrictions, so I wonder what the government is playing at.
So when? They delayed it by a month, but infection rates remained exponential growth. We'd have to go back into lockdown to stop exponential growth - is that what you want? Now? If we did, we'd probably come out of it at the most dangerous time, i.e. early Winter, and there'd be another wave over Winter. It's time for herd immunity. The vaccines will protect the older/vulnerable who'd have been most at risk of catching covid. If we're not going to remove restrictions, then what was the point of locking down for months to allow people to get vaccinated.
TatianaBis · 07/07/2021 08:01

So when?

I think it’s highly problematic, but perhaps not when infections are rising fast. The rationale of lockdowns is to lockdown when infections are rising and and release when they’re falling.

I’m not against opening up to some extent, but now is not the time to be binning all restrictions. It makes a mockery of previous lockdowns and threatens to undo previous hard work.

ame88 · 07/07/2021 08:04

I don't know of anyone who has had it since December!

zafferana · 07/07/2021 08:06

It's rife round here too (Herts). Masses of school children testing +ve, bubbles burst in every school I know of, some with 10-20 children +ve in one year group, plus some doubly vaxxed parents and one or two feeling really rotten. I think this summer is going to be carnage, but hopefully things will improve after that, as more people than ever will have antibodies, either via vaccination or infection.

pam290358 · 07/07/2021 08:57

@zafferana. Not sure it’s summer we should be worried about - the virus is more active in winter. Some experts are against unlocking everything now, as it’s likely to come back and bite us when the cold weather arrives. I’m wondering about the logistics of giving a booster shot to all adults later in the year when the NHS is already busy with flu shots.

zafferana · 07/07/2021 09:04

@pam290358 they're talking about giving Covid boosters and flu jabs at the same time - one in each arm.

pam290358 · 07/07/2021 09:04

Has anyone any experience of Covid symptoms resurfacing a few months later ? I’ve just finished isolating after testing positive a couple of weeks ago - had Covid in February. The advice was to treat the latest positive test as a new infection and isolate accordingly, but now I’m hearing that the virus can lie dormant in the gut and cause symptoms months later. I’m CEV, tested positive for a while during recovery the first time round and GP seemed to think I had trouble clearing the virus. Just wondering if anyone else has come across this. Still so much we don’t know.

MadKittenWoman · 07/07/2021 09:08

Delta hotspot here. DS has it after one jab; he has minor cold symptoms. DH and I are both double-jabbed and negative but still have to do the isolation, which will be abolished mid-August. Many young people here have it and the schools are in chaos, with classes in and out of isolation which will also be abolished mid-August. We just have to live with this thing.

NordVeg · 07/07/2021 09:38

@cabinetofgits

So the announcement tonight about mask-burning and nightclubs and crowded bars is VERY badly timed.

Especially with hundreds of thousands of 'not at risk' school pupils locked in their houses to protect people who are now free to drink in bars and chuck out their masks.

While people with one vaccine are getting quite ill still.

But still JCVI won't green-light vaccinating under-18s, despite the transmission and variant-risk of this reservoir of infection. But oh well, let's just lock them all up at home so the adults can go drinking and on holiday.

yes, exactly this ^

My 17 year old DS is very wary of catching it, really wants the vaxx ASAP. His year group have been sent to WFH from school until next week because of the number of positive tests.

pam290358 · 07/07/2021 09:42

I agree, we have to find a way to live with the virus. We need to get the economy moving properly and allow our young people to get on with their education without the huge upheaval we have at the moment. The problem is that there are so many differences of opinion amongst the so called experts and that inevitably divides public opinion. I can see the point of view that opening up now isn’t the right time - while Delta is on the rise and cases are going up there’s bound to be a knock on effect in the winter. But when is the right time, and how quickly should we be doing it ? After months of lockdown Boris seems to be saying, OK folks, you’re on your own. By removing all restrictions we all become reliant on each other to be responsible and do what we need to do to stay safe, but so many things that could derail recovery have been left open ended. It’s a step into the unknown, but we have to do it some time and I honestly don’t think there will ever be a ‘right’ time. I also think it’s time to stop reporting on the daily cases/deaths. It’s not helpful any more.

irregularegular · 07/07/2021 10:10

I actually don't personally know a single person who has had covid (of any sorts)

I do find this remarkable. There have been about 5 million recorded infections. 1 in 13 of population. And that doesn't include those people didn't record it for various reasons - I know of quite a few. I know it hasn't been evenly distributed regionally, but even so. I'm not doubting you but it does seem odd as it is (very very roughly) equivalent to not knowing anybody over 75, or under 7, or with red hair, or from an Asian ethnic group, or who has had cancer!

Though I guess it is not always visible/known that someone has had covid if you don't talk to them much.

OverTheRubicon · 07/07/2021 11:16

@irregularegular

I actually don't personally know a single person who has had covid (of any sorts)

I do find this remarkable. There have been about 5 million recorded infections. 1 in 13 of population. And that doesn't include those people didn't record it for various reasons - I know of quite a few. I know it hasn't been evenly distributed regionally, but even so. I'm not doubting you but it does seem odd as it is (very very roughly) equivalent to not knowing anybody over 75, or under 7, or with red hair, or from an Asian ethnic group, or who has had cancer!

Though I guess it is not always visible/known that someone has had covid if you don't talk to them much.

But much like red hair, certain groups have far higher rates of covid than others. So if work in aged care, or maybe are a uni student, or are work as a chef and live in a highly affected part of Manchester, you'll likely know lots of people and have probably had it yourself. But if you're in one of the areas that have had lower rates, you WFH and have friends who do the same, you might well know of people who've had covid but not any personal friends or connections. Just like some people truly don't have any black or Asian or white friends or acquaintances beyond a few faces they see in shops.
ragged · 07/07/2021 11:18

Most flu infections are asymptomatic.
Covid could not start like flu but it will end up looking a lot like flu.

ancientcreature · 07/07/2021 11:23

I wish people would stop saying it will end up like flu, or we have to live with it like flu,

Humans have lived with flu (totally different family of viruses than a coronavirus) for literally millions of years, we have lost countless lives building this immunity up but flu still kills thousands per year.

Yes I agree that Covid may become endemic and like a flu virus in that we will build some degree of immunity, mainly by children getting infected constantly but it will take decades I think, certainly not be "done in 12 weeks"

Gwenhwyfar · 07/07/2021 12:11

"I actually don't personally know a single person who has had covid (of any sorts)

I do find this remarkable."

Me too.
However, I know someone who said on FB that she didn't know anyone who'd had it at one point, but we have acquaintances in common and she did know people who'd had it, she just didn't know they'd had it (because people were wfh).

Gwenhwyfar · 07/07/2021 12:14

[quote zafferana]@pam290358 they're talking about giving Covid boosters and flu jabs at the same time - one in each arm.[/quote]
They're also talking about combining them into one shot, but I suppose that will take time.

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