Half vaxxed friends getting Delta

[Porridgeislife]

Has anyone had a notable uptick in friends getting Delta over the last week? I’ve now got 4 friends infected - one very sick (full week off work), two a bit under the weather and one only found out due to a PCR for foreign travel.

We are all mid to late 30s so half vaxxed with Pfizer or Moderna. One has a fully vaxxed mother & husband who haven't been infected whilst her unvaccinated young children have. All working from home and have been for 15 months.

I’ve been quite relaxed about Covid and just taking the usual masks, hands, space precautions suggested by the government (given my age) plus got vaccinated as soon as allowed. However throughout it all, I’ve never had so many friends sick at once - it seems Delta is much, much more contagious?

We’re seeing student to student transmission for the first time ever and 35% of students (secondary) are self-isolating. We have never seen so many cases, some are becoming poorly but thankfully don’t require hospitalisation. Rate of infection is 1.5 to 1.7, it’s spreading rapidly and Lateral Flow tests are picking it up but only when the viral load is high enough. Sadly, receiving both vaccines doesn’t mean you won’t catch the Delta variant and being bed ridden for a week is more common than I want to admit. Symptoms are not typical - headache, sore throat, runny nose, aches/pains, general feeling of not being 100%. This is in East Anglia and first hit us 8 (school) days ago

User147 thank you. I don't believe everything I'm reading here either. It just doesn't stack up with official figures. I don't doubt many of the posts, but I also think there is scaremongering. I live in an area of London where there is around 100 cases per 100,000. That means many more people who don't have covid than do. However I do recognise that cases are rising quickly. Deaths are not, which is very positive.

Itsokay I caught flu when I was in my twenties. I have no underlying health conditions, but I was very ill and ended up in hospital on a drip. It took near,y 6 months before I was well again. I'm not a covid denier in any way. Not at all, and I was hugely grateful to get the vaccine. But illnesses like flu can floor healthy young people.

A sizeable proportion of the hospital admissions this time are expected to be un-vaccinated and under 50.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/993358/s12888WarwickRoadMappStep_4.pdf

@Odisia

User147 thank you. I don't believe everything I'm reading here either. It just doesn't stack up with official figures. I don't doubt many of the posts, but I also think there is scaremongering. I live in an area of London where there is around 100 cases per 100,000. That means many more people who don't have covid than do. However I do recognise that cases are rising quickly. Deaths are not, which is very positive.

It drives me crazy all the scare mongering from the press, but also from any old Tom, dick and Harry.

A couple of weeks ago there was a post on here from a person claiming to be an ITU nurse, she said that her ITU was full of young people now critically ill with Covid. Complete and utter bullshit! Why would someone say that? So many people have become so anxious over the last 16 months and lies like that really feed into some peoples head!

@wildchild554. I’m really sorry I alarmed you, and I can’t offer you any comfort - the only thing I can advise is that you take all the precautions you can. The first time we had Covid, back in early February, I had accompanied my partner on a routine hospital appointment, immediately after which he was admitted for surgery. They did a routine LFT on admission and it was positive. He was placed immediately on a Covid ward and came home after treatment a couple of days later. It turned out that the LFT result was a false positive - the results of two PCR tests done as a follow up by the hospital were both negative. The hospital had exposed him to the virus by not following their own protocol, even though they knew he was clinically vulnerable. He should have been isolated until the PCR results were received. He passed the virus on to me and we were both very ill for weeks. At no point did the hospital inform him that the PCR’s were negative - the results were sent to his phone after he came home.

I’ve had several clinic appointments myself in the last couple of weeks and have done routine LFT’s after each one just to make sure I’m OK. The most recent appointment was a week before the positive LFT, and was the only occasion on which I was in the waiting room for any length of time. Everyone was masked, but the waiting room was full and although social distancing was in operation, all the chairs were taken and people were still turning up for appointments and then standing around /moving round the room to vending machines etc. Doesn’t exactly fill you with confidence does it ? I’m also alarmed that after 18 months of locking us down with strict rules, and despite rising cases well in excess of this time last year, the government is now effectively cutting us all loose with the advice to take precautions as we see fit !!

I know a couple who were double vaxxed with Pfizer a couple of months ago who have come down with covid quite badly after catching it off their dd.

@PrincessNutNuts

A sizeable proportion of the hospital admissions this time are expected to be un-vaccinated and under 50.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/993358/s12888WarwickRoadMappStep_4.pdf

I am not sure if this is a post in reference to me mentioning the under 50's? I know the admissions are pretty much all under 50 as I work in A&E. what I said was there is no recorded case of a death in anyone under 50 years of age from Covid after having received both vaccines.

It wasn't @user1473450164, but I'm not sure where I'd go to find those figures.

Are there many under 50s fully vaxxed? I'm in my 40s and my second is this month.

@PrincessNutNuts

It wasn't *@user1473450164*, but I'm not sure where I'd go to find those figures.

Are there many under 50s fully vaxxed? I'm in my 40s and my second is this month.

Well I am in my 40's and double vaxxed but I am a nurse so have been since March.

I don't know the figures but pretty sure they are out there. Anecdotally everyone I know outside work who is over 40 has had both jabs as they got theirs bought forward. people i know in their 30's are most are getting their 2nd this month.

@user1473450164 thats what I was thinking myself although it was only last week she died. I don't know how long it takes it takes for figures to be updated.

Both my sons are double vaxed aged 24 and 22.

I think PHE have a weekly update on all the vaccine stats if you fancy trolling through that?

All my work colleagues in their 40s are double vaxxed, I'm the youngest at 30 and my second vax is next month.

I personally know of 3 people who were fully jabbed who have caught COVID - 2 moderately (very flu like but not needing to go to hospital) and 1 mild.
I don’t personally know, but know of at least 20 fully vaccinated people who have tested positive in last few weeks in another country. They work for a close family member of mine.
Again non hospitalised.
Interestingly I don’t know anyone who has had covid that has caught it again, the ones I know all didn’t they they have had the virus before being vaccinated.

Re schools - have kids at 3 different schools and have had zero cases of Covid amongst staff and students since it opened in March.

*didn’t think they had the virus before being vaccinated

I don’t think Flu and Covid should be compared. I have had ‘proper’ flu twice in my life. It hit me suddenly and I quickly became very ill and had to take to my bed for at least 7 days on both occasions. I was certainly too ill to go shopping, the pub, gym etc. Therein lies my point, you can be carrying Covid for days without realising, going about your business and infecting people on the way. Whilst the symptoms, for some, may be similar, the way it strikes is very different. That being said, I agree that we need to live with this. I also agree that huge swathes of school children having to self-isolate because of close contact cannot continue and the contact tracing itself is a time-consuming and tedious task. But, if infections remain high, schools will end up closing if too many teachers succumb to the virus. This scenario will be replicated across all sectors and industries. It’s far from over but I do believe people, on the whole, will take more responsibility for their own risk and exposure to the virus

Yep, it seems to be rife right now and far more people who I know directly. Previously it was more distant acquaintances. Am also in London.

I have two double jabbed friends who contracted Covid on holiday. They’re in their 50’s. They’re unwell but managing at home, sleeping mostly I think. So it’s defo still out there x

I’m 35 and fully jabbed but I live in an area with a high rate so could get my second early x

Yes, my husband and I are both mid 30s and currently have COVID. Like a bad cold, but getting worse - it’s hard to look after our toddler (who would have been self isolating anyway, as her nursery bubble has burst).

Forget Delta
What about Lamda

It's been very clear in the press for a while that the Delta variant is much more contagious - that's why we should not relax mask wearing and social distancing yet

@nannykatherine

Forget Delta What about Lamda

I'm not sure Lambda is showing up much in the surveillance but if you go to the SANGER map and set the bar to March 27th then press play you can see Delta doing what Delta does.

covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?view=map&colorBy=p&area=overview&latitude=52.607263&longitude=-3.254808&zoom=4.00&date=2021-03-27&scale=quadratic

DS single-jabbed and positive. We're double-jabbed and negative. Give it a few weeks, and we wouldn't have to self-isolate for ten days...