Would you take the Tube if ppl go unmasked?

[MareofBeasttown]

Not that I or DS (17) have much of a choice. We live in central London, do not have a car and DS won't be vaccinated till next year.

We do actually expect people to change their behaviour for the health and safety of everyone. Look at how we've stopped smoking in pubs and public places for example.

It's only a mask at the end of the day. For a limited period of time, on public transport for example. For most people it's not a huge change in behaviour. It's actually not a big deal at all. It's only a big deal if you decide that it is.

@QwertyGirly

We do actually expect people to change their behaviour for the health and safety of everyone. Look at how we've stopped smoking in pubs and public places for example.

It's only a mask at the end of the day. For a limited period of time, on public transport for example. For most people it's not a huge change in behaviour. It's actually not a big deal at all. It's only a big deal if you decide that it is.

Then you're free to keep using a mask.

Hell, no. Viral soup in there at the best of times.

I decide it is a big deal, you say limited time on public transport, what's the point?
What I don't like about this post and about the last year and a half (which i blame the media for in its entirety) is how much people focus on what OTHER people should do. Focus on what YOU should do for yourself, lets face it most people don't look after themselves, they eat too much fat and sugar, don't exercise. I eat well, exercise, I look after my family, my kids don't sit staring at an XBOX eating mcdonalds. So we do not consider ourselves at risk in the world and feel the need to wrap ourselves up in cotton wool as we give ourselves the best chance of a healthy life. If a member of my family had cancer for example I would say don't travel on the tube while your poorly, its not worth it, what's more important than your health? The general public can't be expected to be on the look out for anyone who is immune compromised.

I will continue to wear a mask to protect others and hope others will extend the same courtesy.

Wearing a mask and being in lockdown where I wasn't exposed to being outside as much caused my hayfever this year to be hyper sensitive. When high pollen days hit I couldn't even have my window open it was that severe. I'm talking sneezing multiples times in a row all day, nose constantly streaming.

Normally high pollen count days with my fexofenadine wouldn't impact me, the odd sneeze.

I was taking 2 tablets a day and it wouldn't even clam it down, low behold some have reported this is due to not exposing ourselves to pollen throughout the year because of lockdowns and masks.

After forcing to keep windows open all day and night and being outside more my body has finally adapted and its back to being manageable.

Hell no will I put myself through that again. So unless a shop or train requires a mask, I will not wear one.

@moynomore this is the sort of comment people copy and paste on websites like facebook and instagram "I want to protect others" no you don't, you just read that so many times on fannybook your robotically repeating it.

@Attheendofthedaywhenallsaid

I decide it is a big deal, you say limited time on public transport, what's the point? What I don't like about this post and about the last year and a half (which i blame the media for in its entirety) is how much people focus on what OTHER people should do. Focus on what YOU should do for yourself, lets face it most people don't look after themselves, they eat too much fat and sugar, don't exercise. I eat well, exercise, I look after my family, my kids don't sit staring at an XBOX eating mcdonalds. So we do not consider ourselves at risk in the world and feel the need to wrap ourselves up in cotton wool as we give ourselves the best chance of a healthy life. If a member of my family had cancer for example I would say don't travel on the tube while your poorly, its not worth it, what's more important than your health? The general public can't be expected to be on the look out for anyone who is immune compromised.

Wow the immense and unnecessary smuggery. I could out smug you and say I have never had a McDonalds in my life. I don't believe that makes me immune to Covid though.

@moynomore

I will continue to wear a mask to protect others and hope others will extend the same courtesy.

Sorry, but you're going to be disappointed!

Why are we not allowed to exercise personal responsibility, as advised by Boris, and choose to smoke on the train or in a pub or restaurant?

Why is heroin and cocaine use illegal? Why are people not allowed to make their own risk assessments?

We can choose to put people, particularly but not only the vulnerable, at unnecessary increased risk, of a disease that kills, disables, and costs the economy dear. Yet at the same time we're not allowed to exercise that same personal responsibility in choosing to take drugs or smoke in public. Despite these being activities that, unlike Covid, would be a net gain to the economy.

No

I'd like rather walk away get fitter and or take the bus and try and sit near windows.

Disabled people are protected under the law, but the government dropping the mask mandate suddenly puts many at direct risk during a pandemic AND WITHDRAWS all support for those self-isolating. Isn't this breaking statutory laws?

FYI, I didn't catch cancer from eating McDonalds. Or from smoking.

My disabled friend didn't catch his disability through a lack of personal responsibility for his health either.

Both of us need to work and our health is strengthened by being able to leave the house.

P.S. Nor by playing XBox. (However I don't think not playing XBox makes anyone COVID immune...)

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@Happy36

Disabled people are protected under the law, but the government dropping the mask mandate suddenly puts many at direct risk during a pandemic AND WITHDRAWS all support for those self-isolating. Isn't this breaking statutory laws?

A number of disability rights and health charities have called for a government rethink on masks.

Masks in poorly ventilated enclosed spaces, like the tube, would give freedom to many many disabled people. The freedom to be able to more safely participate in society - go to work etc.

My disabled friend didn't catch his disability through a lack of personal responsibility for his health either.

Both of us need to work and our health is strengthened by being able to leave the house

Indeed. Which is why disability rights and health charities are calling on the government to continue with the mask requirements.

6 in 10 of the Covid deaths in the UK have been in disabled people. Disabled people, through no fault of their own, have been disproportionately affected by Covid.

Masks give them the freedom to more safely participate in society. Including going to work.

Btw to anyone who doesn't care about disabled people because they are Other People, remember that whilst 6/10 if the deaths were disabled people, 4/10 is still a sizeable figure - so don't think you're completely risk free. And of course, Long Covid means many more people will become disabled during the pandemic.

Yes

@Attheendofthedaywhenallsaid

I decide it is a big deal, you say limited time on public transport, what's the point? What I don't like about this post and about the last year and a half (which i blame the media for in its entirety) is how much people focus on what OTHER people should do. Focus on what YOU should do for yourself, lets face it most people don't look after themselves, they eat too much fat and sugar, don't exercise. I eat well, exercise, I look after my family, my kids don't sit staring at an XBOX eating mcdonalds. So we do not consider ourselves at risk in the world and feel the need to wrap ourselves up in cotton wool as we give ourselves the best chance of a healthy life. If a member of my family had cancer for example I would say don't travel on the tube while your poorly, its not worth it, what's more important than your health? The general public can't be expected to be on the look out for anyone who is immune compromised.

Wow!

I have a weird immune problem, as does my four-year-old son. We believe my father had the same condition.

I cycle from Zone 3 into central London, run about 9km a day and do Les Mills body pump classes.

As I'm so fit, I attended Zumba classes (dancing with a 3kg weight in each hand) and was doing mini-trampoline workouts two days before I gave birth at 38 weeks pregnant. I don't eat sugar and I love my kids.

At 38 weeks and two days, I gave birth by urgent caesarian because my placenta had collapsed due to my severe (although well controlled by insulin) gestational diabetes.

My dad, meanwhile, loved eating oily fish and fresh vegetables from my mum's kitchen garden. He had a series of mini strokes in his 70s and got vascular dementia. He was doing 100 press ups in the care home about a year before he died, aged 78.

There is, sadly, not a direct correction between being physically fit and being healthy/able-bodied. It would be nice if, if we ate healthily and exercised, we could stay alive indefinitely. But it is possible, in fact, usual to be disabled, sick or even dying through no fault of your own.

The world sucks that way... Depressing, isn't it?