Thoughts on the non-vaccinated!

[UnluckyMe]

Why have people been so critical of those who have chosen not to be vaccinated against covid 19?

I've read all sorts of comments about those, like me, who chose not to be vaccinated calling us selfish, uneducated and so on. There seems to be a massive lack of respect for what others choose to do with their body and I'm just curious as go why people feel the need to make comments about it. There are obviously many who don't and I do acknowledge that, my post is more directed to thoughts on why the other side do (feels very playground bully like to me).

The way I see it is everyone has a choice - respect that choice and move on with life rather than throwing insults at one another or dwell on something out of your own control.

I'd also like to confirm i do not own tin foil hat, expect the end of days soon or believe everyone will drop dead in 6 months / will transform into magneto from X-Men (all those coins sticking to people's arms!)

I have followed the rules down to a tee but have just chosen not to be vaccinated at present. Maybe I will change my mind, maybe I won't 🤷‍♀️ who knows.

I am genuinely curious - I read on another post "all vulnerable and sensible people have had the jab" as a comment which riled me a bit too! I like to think I'm pretty sensible but clearly this Mumsnetter thinks otherwise 😆😆

@EasterIssland

You can do whatever you want with your body your choice. We’re where we’re because people have taken the risk. I’ll be less risky to pass the virus to someone vulnerable than what you’re.

Not sure what is the point of another thread about how your choice is the right one. If you’re so sure about it you don’t need people telling you why you’re right or wrong. I barely see threads of people that have had rhe vaccine to say why everyone should have it. Yet i see loads of threads of people that refuse to have it and try to convince that they’re doing the right thing.

I didn't say my choice was the right one. Everyone has their own view on this and there isn't a right or wrong in how someone feels about it. You just go with your gut.

@hellywelly3 I agree completely.

A boy who could not have an MMR vaccine for medical reasons was an inpatient. He died after contracting measles from another boy on the ward who did not have MMR vaccine because his parents didn’t agree with it.

I think instances like this are the reason people get heated over this debate.

There are vulnerable children who obviously can’t have the vaccination and it’s like their lives don’t matter.

“ I didn't say my choice was the right one. Everyone has their own view on this and there isn't a right or wrong in how someone feels about it. You just go with your gut.”

Then what’s the point of this thread when there have been similar to this one nearly everyday ?

One of my friends refuses to have the covid vaccination due to potential risks however she is a heavy smoker and obviously isn't worried about the risks smoking poses to her health.

I fully support her decision however as it is none of my business.

I haven't criticised anyone for choosing not to be vaccinated.

However, the people that I know that are vocal about not vaccinating are far from sensible.

One threatened to leave their partner if he got the vaccine
One has been posting up pictures of dead animals and comparing them to people that are vaccinated
One was in tears because their adult child was choosing to have it

These are not sensible people. I may know sensible people that are refusing to have it, but if I do, they are keeping very quiet.

@everythingthelighttouches

Are you grateful to all those people who have had the vaccine OP?

What does my level of gratitude have to do with this post?

I'll preempt the response of my freedom is down to you, personally. Is that where you were going with this?

Op, you’ve made a choice about your body, I suggest being comfortable with that and not worrying what others think or say.

Because your choice of what to do with your own body puts other people at risk and prolongs the need for restrictions on our liberty. I don't want to sound like a bully but if you choose to do something which potentially endangers others you shouldn't be surprised that some people will be critical of your actions.

This whole "my body, my choice" argument misses the fact that its not just your body. It's your body and the bodies of the many people you may come into contact with. I'm sorry but I think its misguided (at best) and selfish.

Your life is going to be significantly improved in the next months compared to what it has been, because other people have made the choice to take the risk and get vaccinated. You need to own that, not moan about people being mean to you.

No one has to respect your choice, they have to respect your right to make a choice. There's a difference.

Both these comments from other posters sum up how I feel about it. It's the fact that you are leaving it to others to get life for everyone including your own back on track. I am particularly annoyed with people who are vulnerable, who we have had our lives turned upside down for, who people have lost their jobs and their homes for, who have been told that if their suffering is worth it if it saves someone's elderly aunt Doris in Bridlington.

@OnOldOlympus

Vaccines and medicine go through years of clinical trials and still get rejected years into research. This jab is producing adverse effects in some users. It hasn't gone through the same testing cycles so comparing it to cancer treatment and other vaccinations is not a valid point. You cannot compare something that has been in use for decades and gone through the proper trials to something that was produced in a matter of months.

This vaccine has gone through all the testing. It was so quick to be developed because so much funding was made available, funding that normally requires loads of paperwork and hoop-jumping and time to get. There was so much money pumped into it that the researchers could conduct the different trials in parallel, instead of waiting for each phase to be completed before committing to the next. That’s why it’s been so extremely fast.

Also they had the basics of this vaccine in place already in case of exactly this situation. Watch the documentaries Jabbed on C4 and Vaccination on iPlayer

@GiantWingedWaspMoth

I haven't criticised anyone for choosing not to be vaccinated.

However, the people that I know that are vocal about not vaccinating are far from sensible.

One threatened to leave their partner if he got the vaccine
One has been posting up pictures of dead animals and comparing them to people that are vaccinated
One was in tears because their adult child was choosing to have it

These are not sensible people. I may know sensible people that are refusing to have it, but if I do, they are keeping very quiet.

Wow. Yes I agree, definitely do not come across as sensible!!!

I didn't say my choice was the right one. Everyone has their own view on this and there isn't a right or wrong in how someone feels about it. You just go with your gut.

What do you want from this thread? You are of course free to decline the vaccine, as you have done. But you need to acknowledge that others taking the same risk that you have decided not to take is making a significantly positive impact on your life and stop moaning, to be honest.

@GiantWingedWaspMoth

I haven't criticised anyone for choosing not to be vaccinated.

However, the people that I know that are vocal about not vaccinating are far from sensible.

One threatened to leave their partner if he got the vaccine
One has been posting up pictures of dead animals and comparing them to people that are vaccinated
One was in tears because their adult child was choosing to have it

These are not sensible people. I may know sensible people that are refusing to have it, but if I do, they are keeping very quiet.

To be fair, I have seen similar things from people who don't agree with a friend/relative decision to not get vaccinated.

They pop up in AIBU and Coronavirus boards all the time. Hell, one comment on this thread is someone refusing to see their unvaccinated friend for lunch.

I am vaccinated but being immunosuppressed I don't know how effective the vaccine has been. You are putting people like me at risk.

@thedogsmother thanks, will give them a watch.

Let's just agree to disagree on where our thoughts lie on the testing side of things though!

People are critical because you're putting others at risk. It's pretty simple.

You just go with your gut. But this is exactly it, I didn’t go with my gut. I made a decision based on logic and science and the expert advice of public health professionals.

Hell, one comment on this thread is someone refusing to see their unvaccinated friend for lunch.

Well, that's the person's choice, isn't it? They're allowed to determine their own boundaries, in exactly the same way that people are free to choose whether or not to have the vaccine.

@Tinysalmonswimminginastream

I didn't say my choice was the right one. Everyone has their own view on this and there isn't a right or wrong in how someone feels about it. You just go with your gut.

What do you want from this thread? You are of course free to decline the vaccine, as you have done. But you need to acknowledge that others taking the same risk that you have decided not to take is making a significantly positive impact on your life and stop moaning, to be honest.

FFS take a chill pill! No one is forcing you to read it let alone respond. So just scroll on by rather than getting all the kitty claws out!

I'm not taking it right now OP even though I can because I am pregnant and I don't know the long term effects it will have on my unborn child or myself. I was planning on having it after I've finished breastfeeding but I'm a bit put off because of side effects and reactions that have happened to people I know eg. bleeding heavily when not due periods and cycles being all over the place, one side of body going numb, heart palpitations, and headaches, I have been reading up about it all since and these side effects don't seem to be that uncommon from them. I'm worried about the long term effects that we all don't know about yet. I don't think anyone should be judged for not having it, it's our bodies and our choice.

Im vaccinated. DH isn’t nor is DD who is 19.

Both adults who can make their own decisions. Im not critical

@OnOldOlympus

Vaccines and medicine go through years of clinical trials and still get rejected years into research. This jab is producing adverse effects in some users. It hasn't gone through the same testing cycles so comparing it to cancer treatment and other vaccinations is not a valid point. You cannot compare something that has been in use for decades and gone through the proper trials to something that was produced in a matter of months.

This vaccine has gone through all the testing. It was so quick to be developed because so much funding was made available, funding that normally requires loads of paperwork and hoop-jumping and time to get. There was so much money pumped into it that the researchers could conduct the different trials in parallel, instead of waiting for each phase to be completed before committing to the next. That’s why it’s been so extremely fast.

Exactly OnOldOlympus- and also because millions of doses were produced and purchased at risk- before all the testing had completed. It was a huge, unprecedented step but meant the roll out could happen much much faster than normal. Also- anyone who thinks ALL of western medicine isn’t some form of continual trial is naive IMO. Side effects, outcomes… they’re being continually reviewed and written up, even for well established treatments. Medicine is a constantly evolving field, and thank fuck- because that’s what keeps millions alive every year.