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ONS report - majority of parents would vaccinate their children

253 replies

Dustyboots · 01/07/2021 15:34

Would you?

They're gunning for this now. I find that worrying.

twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1410589646040580106/photo/1

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DillyDot · 01/07/2021 19:32

I would love for DD16 to have it and she desperately wants it too. She has a part time job, she helps care for elderly relatives, she travels on public transport to college and wants to be able to travel abroad as soon as she can. Why is it so important for an 18 year old get vaccinated but not her?

Dustyboots · 01/07/2021 19:34

Believe that most people will have their kids vaccinated. I know a few people but certainly not the majority.

This is my experience in life too @loulouljh

It's frightening the bullshit we're fed through scientists and the media. Frightening that we're being manipulated all the time.

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MarshaBradyo · 01/07/2021 19:35

Stop panicking about it. If they offer it not everyone will have it.

Some want to and others don’t. We don’t all have to do the same thing with this.

Indigopearl · 01/07/2021 19:35

I would vaccinate over 12s. I think we know more about the long term risks from the vaccine than the risks from the virus. In addition it will mean education is less disrupted and there is a lower chance of future vaccine resistant mutations.

Dustyboots · 01/07/2021 19:35

bascially they have trial data for 12+ but they're waiting and seeing what counties vaccining this age group pick up - like blood clots being picked up only during the mass vaccination and not the trials.

How dreadful for kids being experimented on in these countries.

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speckledostrichegg · 01/07/2021 19:36

The risks of these vaccines outweighs the risks of catching or getting ill with Covid.

How are you stating this so definitively with no evidence @Dustyboots?

The experts in the field have acknowledged how complex it is, there's a debate to be had, and are still weighing up whether the benefits outweigh potential risks in the current context

Dustyboots · 01/07/2021 19:37

Stop panicking about it. If they offer it not everyone will have it.

@MarshaBradyo - I worry for all kids. Not just my own. I work with kids. I worry for them.

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speckledostrichegg · 01/07/2021 19:40

@Dustyboots

Stop panicking about it. If they offer it not everyone will have it.

@MarshaBradyo - I worry for all kids. Not just my own. I work with kids. I worry for them.

tad patronising @Dustyboots

Families will make the decision based on their situation and opinion. When you look at the population-level demographics of those who participated in paediatric trials/went ahead with vaccination when offered, they are not a vulnerable group I would worry that had been coerced/tricked into having it (i.e, on average- wealthy, high SES, highly educated).

I don't think you need to be worrying about other people's children

MarshaBradyo · 01/07/2021 19:42

@Dustyboots

Stop panicking about it. If they offer it not everyone will have it.

@MarshaBradyo - I worry for all kids. Not just my own. I work with kids. I worry for them.

Ok you can if you like but if the other extreme there are posters going on about long Covid

I can’t take on those stressed views when deciding as both seem emotive and not balancing risks as experts will

3WildOnes · 01/07/2021 19:48

I absolutely think parents should have the choice to vaccinate. I know some families who have CEV children who have basically been isolating for over a year now.
I would not give it to my children, I don’t think the benefit would outweigh the risks for them personallyz

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 01/07/2021 20:19

They rolled out vaccines to 12+ in my area early May, and most of the students who wanted to be vaccinated had been double-jabbed by mid-June.

It all contributes towards herd immunity and keeping those who can't be vaccinated, or for whom the vaccines don't work, safer.

I live in a town full of doctors, and we have a 99% vaccination rate among over-12s.

Mehhhhhhhhh · 01/07/2021 20:23

No chance, no way, if you want your kids to be guinea pigs for a trial vaccine that's up to you, but nobody will be jabbing that crap into my kids.

Barbie222 · 01/07/2021 20:35

@ZZTopGuitarSolo

They rolled out vaccines to 12+ in my area early May, and most of the students who wanted to be vaccinated had been double-jabbed by mid-June.

It all contributes towards herd immunity and keeping those who can't be vaccinated, or for whom the vaccines don't work, safer.

I live in a town full of doctors, and we have a 99% vaccination rate among over-12s.

It looks like we'd have a fair take up here among over 12s if/when rolled out so that's really encouraging.
TheRealMrsMorningstar · 01/07/2021 20:59

Yes.

Howshouldibehave · 01/07/2021 21:04

@ZZTopGuitarSolo

They rolled out vaccines to 12+ in my area early May, and most of the students who wanted to be vaccinated had been double-jabbed by mid-June.

It all contributes towards herd immunity and keeping those who can't be vaccinated, or for whom the vaccines don't work, safer.

I live in a town full of doctors, and we have a 99% vaccination rate among over-12s.

That’s excellent. Fingers crossed it’s rolled out in the UK soon too for all those that want it.
Superfoodie123 · 01/07/2021 21:15

No way in hell.

Thegentleman · 02/07/2021 01:21

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Wimpund21 · 02/07/2021 01:35

I would vaccinate over 12s. I think we know more about the long term risks from the vaccine than the risks from the virus

What?!?

The vaccine and the virus itself is less than 2 years old.

No one knows Anything about long term effects yet for obvious reasons.

Schrutesbeets · 02/07/2021 06:24

The chance of a child dying WITH covid is 1 in 600,000 - the risk of death from the blood clotting issue with the vaccine is 1 in 470,000 - and more risk to those younger. Both very rare, but I'll take the chance that my children will be absolutely fine with their immune systems. They don't need a vaccine for this. That doesn't make me anti vax.

fullfact.org/online/risk-children-death-covid/

Barbie222 · 02/07/2021 06:45

So if you don't want to vaccinate your children, are you saying that you are happy to accept school closures and isolations for another year? The risk of variants which make all the vaccinations we do have a waste of time? We can already see how this is happening. The ones we've made are less effective against Delta than the original strain. New variants will be more and more resistant to our vaccinations, because that's the principle of evolving organisms. Keeping covid at a low level is key to getting our lives back for good.

Tbh I could understand if this was the first vaccination ever and we were all standing around Louis Pasteur, but there are many, many new vaccinations every year, some of which we give to our children, which haven't had any more rigorous or wider scale testing.

At some point we have to accept that the balance needs to tip away from the status quo, and towards keeping schools open, getting childhood back for all children, and making covid a rare, mostly harmless event. Vaccination's how you do that, so the sooner the better for me.

Wellbythebloodyhell · 02/07/2021 06:56

No I wouldn't vaccinate my dc, I've had both mine BTW. I dont think they need it, I'm more concerned about reports of heart inflammation from the Pfizer than I am of covid. I'm happy to wait for further data from other countries who have given it to dc before I rush out to vaccinate my own.

The UK seems to be opting for the booster option rather than dc anyway for now, boosters will be the short term priority not dc. Any vaccine supply we get will be allocated for boosters as well as the logistics that go with it to actually administer the vaccine such as the staff, venues, equipment etc all the stuff that makes it happen. I work for a local CCG, vaccinating children en masse is not on the radar .....yet!

Schrutesbeets · 02/07/2021 06:59

@Barbie222

So if you don't want to vaccinate your children, are you saying that you are happy to accept school closures and isolations for another year? The risk of variants which make all the vaccinations we do have a waste of time? We can already see how this is happening. The ones we've made are less effective against Delta than the original strain. New variants will be more and more resistant to our vaccinations, because that's the principle of evolving organisms. Keeping covid at a low level is key to getting our lives back for good.

Tbh I could understand if this was the first vaccination ever and we were all standing around Louis Pasteur, but there are many, many new vaccinations every year, some of which we give to our children, which haven't had any more rigorous or wider scale testing.

At some point we have to accept that the balance needs to tip away from the status quo, and towards keeping schools open, getting childhood back for all children, and making covid a rare, mostly harmless event. Vaccination's how you do that, so the sooner the better for me.

But this is the classic way we've been manipulated. The fact that people think the only 2 options are either school closures, isolating, huge economic disruptions... OR the miraculous vaccines. That's a false dichotomy. We could stop closing schools, as children aren't at risk from covid, and now we've vaccinated the elderly and vulnerable we'll be fine to let everyone else crack on, essentially.
MarshaBradyo · 02/07/2021 07:11

Schrute agree they do not need to be presented as either or in that way

Decisions re isolations are already being looked at

Barbie222 · 02/07/2021 07:14

now we've vaccinated the elderly and vulnerable we'll be fine to let everyone else crack on, essentially.

That's what we tried before, and now we've had 2 variants which have reduced vaccine efficiency? "Letting everyone else crack on" is the line being sold here - it's code for "we would rather kick the can a bit more and let someone else deal with it later." All the way through this, our leaders have been slow to act, and here we go again.

Katieandthekids · 02/07/2021 07:18

I am really not sure... my babies are only 20 months old (twins) so can't decide themselves but I would certainly be worried and very very upset if someone forced me into doing it