ONS report - majority of parents would vaccinate their children

[Dustyboots]

Would you?

They're gunning for this now. I find that worrying.

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Nope. Vaccine does not prevent spread it helps keep the person receiving it a little safer. Children have always been said to not get serious covid symptom so why would I give them a jab that is so very new. Once they turn 18 in a few years & even more is known about side effects etc then I will fully support whatever they decide to do.

@bumbleymummy

We also know cases are increasing, and this will only get worse and worse over the summer, with children being the most significantly exposed.

Which means that most of them will be immune, if they aren’t already. It would be interesting to know how many already have immunity before we give them a vaccine which, by your own admission, we don’t know the long term effects of, when they may not even need it.

I'm not "admitting" anything @bumbleymummy, I'm just outlining the argument both sides for considering vaccination of children. You seem to have ignored most of my post however, including my full comment about the long terms effects of coronavirus and the vaccine

However, it is established that children suffer from long COVID, and this does not necessarily correlate with how serious the initial symptoms were. We also know nothing of the implications long term of a COVID infection in childhood and whether this predisposes to other illnesses such as T1DM (much is made of the idea of not knowing about mRNA vaccines long term, and people tend to forget about this point).

@speckledostrichegg and if you have read my posts you know that I link to official figures to back up any statements I make so no, I’m not ‘minimising’ the impact of the virus. The data itself shows how minimal the risk is.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

God yeah absolutely l would want Dd vaccinating.

Funny how the fear of it mutating when too many people catch it doesn’t apply to the group suffering the most infections🤨

They only care if people end up in hospital. There's no recognition of Long Covid or the cost to the NHS of treating it.

Yes.

Actually my 16yo ds is fully vaccinated.

I was extremely happy for him to have it done but I did say the final decision was his personal choice. He wanted it so I fully supported him.

Which means that most of them will be immune

No they won’t. I teach in a huge secondary. Not that many kids have had it.

The best way for immunity is vaccination.

We also know cases are increasing, and this will only get worse and worse over the summer, with children being the most significantly exposed.

I reckon one of the reasons that Freedom Day was delayed was so that the high infection rate in children could be blamed on parents socialising too much in the summer holidays rather than schools not being funded properly.

I read your full post @speckledostrichegg

[quote bumbleymummy]@speckledostrichegg and if you have read my posts you know that I link to official figures to back up any statements I make so no, I’m not ‘minimising’ the impact of the virus. The data itself shows how minimal the risk is.[/quote]
The data shows how minimal the risk of death is, I've explained at length why there are many other factors to consider.

You've made it very clear you and your family won't be vaccinated which is fine, but don't assume people making a different decision are somehow ill informed and doing it out of hysteria.

I doubt it would be mandatory so if you don’t want to don’t

On dc depends which age group

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Which means that most of them will be immune

No they won’t. I teach in a huge secondary. Not that many kids have had it.

The best way for immunity is vaccination.

How do you know? The majority of infections are asymptomatic and we only recently started widespread testing of children.

Well none of the others seem to be affected by it. It’s just odd random cases.

@speckledostrichegg and hospitalisation. And wrt long covid, we need more clarity on what it actually is. The figures being quoted include very mild symptoms as well as the longer term, more serious ones.

Why does it worry you, nobody will be forcing you to have your kids done?!

I have had my jab and will 100% want my children to be done if that’s an option.

It would worry me that the virus would spread and mutate amongst the unvaccinated, though.

Did you have your own vaccine, OP, just out of interest?

I'm double jabbed and my kids have the flu spray annually but my 12 yr old won't be having the jab. Too new and more than one healthcare professional has expressed concerns about risk/benefit incl someone in the JVCI (is that right acronym??)

My children have given enough. Jabs little benefit to them and it's not their job to give us herd immunity.

Yes, we’d be straight on to get them their jabs if they would start doing 12-17 year olds. It’s already approved for safety and many in this age group have had them in other countries.

Jabs are a massive benefit to them if it stops education being disrupted.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Which means that most of them will be immune

No they won’t. I teach in a huge secondary. Not that many kids have had it.

The best way for immunity is vaccination.

You've no idea how many kids have had it.

I know how many confirmed cases I’ve seen in a school of 1700 kids.

And it hasn’t spread in the school from the identified cases.

I thought spread was ‘rife’ in schools, according to here

Depends where you live. Lower than 3 cases in my area.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

I know how many confirmed cases I’ve seen in a school of 1700 kids.

And it hasn’t spread in the school from the identified cases.

confirmed cases. My point exactly. You've no idea how many cases there's been.

"I'm double jabbed and my kids have the flu spray annually but my 12 yr old won't be having the jab. Too new and more than one healthcare professional has expressed concerns about risk/benefit incl someone in the JVCI (is that right acronym??)"

If you're talking about Professor Robert Dingwall, who is part of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation. he is a professor of Sociology, not of virology or anything medical. He is quite dangerous, I think, in his views.

I don’t know why the worry though op as it will be offered not mandatory. Just don’t do it.

Personally I will be interested in what JCVI decide but I don’t have any decisions to make right now outside already offered and not offered.

It’s hard to know about spread in schools, certainly there have been enough posts about Covid ‘ripping through’ but maybe exaggeration for effect.

Then you get mass testing that picks up a lot of asymptomatic cases.