No masks after 19th July - Hoo-blardy-Ray!!!!!

[TeddingtonTrashbag]

As reported in the DM.
So happy if it’s true.

Personally, I can’t fucking wait to ditch the masks. I’ll be jubilant.
On another note, it’ll be a wonderful sense of schadenfreude to (hopefully) have the doom and gloom merchants proved utterly and completely wrong. Yes, we’ll still have deaths and hospitalisations, but it will be extremely manageable. And definitely, no more lockdowns.

@MachiaNelly

Retail staff I know are delighted at the prospect of not having to wear masks for an eight hour shift anymore!

I don't know any who are, and I know several. I am one.

It's not madly surprising that people you know and people others know feel differently on a subject, to be fair.

@Flaxmeadow

TheVampiresWife

I'm tired of your incessant anecdotes.

Say what now?! 😂

@Flaxmeadow

Lots of comments about shopping but no regard for, or mention of, retail staff. Sad

If retail staff don't like it that customers aren't wearing masks they can get another job, much the same as those whining about going back to the office can

If retail staff don't like it that customers aren't wearing masks they can get another job, much the same as those whining about going back to the office can

Harsh but fair.

@Blossomtoes

If retail staff don't like it that customers aren't wearing masks they can get another job, much the same as those whining about going back to the office can

Harsh but fair.

Agreed.

People who are exempt have been told for a year on here that if they can't wear a mask they shouldn't have a public facing job.

I have a much less strong reaction to masks than a lot of people I think. I find them a bit of a pain but not upsetting or unbearable and TBH I'll probably keep wearing them in public indoor spaces until infection numbers fall. I've had my 2nd jab so I know I'm not likely to get it and even without vaccine it wouldn't be dangerous, but I'd rather minimise my chances of missing out on things I want to do while it's prevalent.

I know two people who haven't produced antibodies from 1st two jabs due to medical conditions. I hope that they keep masks in place until the third booster is rolled out, (assuming that provokes some response) especially as they are more vulnerable to begin with.

@MachiaNelly

Retail staff I know are delighted at the prospect of not having to wear masks for an eight hour shift anymore!

I don't know any who are, and I know several. I am one.

So you work in retail and no one else you know who works in retail is looking forward to not having to wear a mask for a full 8 hour shift ? They all want to continue wearing one ?

You're a bit odd OP.

Why don't you want restrictions lifted in a way that means less avoidable deaths, fewer long-term disabilities - and lower risk of needing to reintroduce restrictions?

Going against WHO advice on how to reopen safely is rather counterproductive.

It's not madly surprising that people you know and people others know feel differently on a subject, to be fair
That's more or less the point I was making. Back at ya

@MachiaNelly

It's not madly surprising that people you know and people others know feel differently on a subject, to be fair That's more or less the point I was making. Back at ya

Fair play

*They all want to continue wearing one ?
I think the issue is more that they would prefer the 100s of customers they serve daily to be wearing masks. Good chance some of them have covid. If that necessitates staff wearing them as well - so be it.

It would definitely be sensible to heed WHO advice, and continue wearing masks in poorly ventilated enclosed spaces, like public transport.

That's if we want to be able to open up - and stay opened up.

@housemdwaswrong

I know two people who haven't produced antibodies from 1st two jabs due to medical conditions. I hope that they keep masks in place until the third booster is rolled out, (assuming that provokes some response) especially as they are more vulnerable to begin with.

It’s just until the vulnerable are vaccinated It’s just until the vulnerable have had their second vaccine It’s just until all over 18s have had their second vaccine It’s just until the vulnerable have had their third It’s just until all over 18s have had their third It’s just until the vulnerable have had their forth Etc Etc

But sensible seems to be a foreign concept to the UK government.

I think they are grubby things that are more likely to spread the virus through constant touching and pulling on and off.

Another gem which is completely unsupported by the scientific data.

It’s just until the vulnerable have had their forth

It’s almost as if we’re dealing with a novel virus where we don’t have definitive data on how it behaves with the newly developed vaccinations.

@Suranjeep

Stinging insight there, you clearly have a huge grasp on the complexities of the situation. Studies have shown that in those who haven't mounted an immune response to first and second doses due to immunosupresssion, a large percentage do in response to a 3rd, but don't worry about little things like finding out what the hell you are talking about before posting. Would wreck the fun, when you clearly have no grasp on it, and probably don't even know the potential number of people affected.

apocalyposenow you have nounderstanding of the science behind mask wearing. The point is that they reduce the spread of airborne droplets from the respiratory system and thereby reduce spread of any viral load. Surgical grade masks are just more effective, the point is the physical barrier.

He'll have to make a decision inthe next week or so, and with cases raising exponentially, I don't think there will be any significant relaxations

@MachiaNelly

Retail staff I know are delighted at the prospect of not having to wear masks for an eight hour shift anymore!

I don't know any who are, and I know several. I am one.

I am also one... absolutely no one wants to wear a mask...

@a8mint

He'll have to make a decision inthe next week or so, and with cases raising exponentially, I don't think there will be any significant relaxations

I think quite the opposite, huge rise in cases and minimal increase in hospitalisations and deaths. Clearly shows tht we don't need restrictions anymore. Yes we can blab on about new variants, but considering we all know and have been told we're going to have to live with this... there will always be a chance of new variants. It will be much more comforting seeing cases decline naturally as there is no one left to infect rather than false waves constantly created by ourselves.

@a8mint

He'll have to make a decision inthe next week or so, and with cases raising exponentially, I don't think there will be any significant relaxations

It's not about cases though, it's about hospitalisations primarily and deaths also (remember the point of restrictions is to stop the NHS from becoming overwhelmed).

I've just started another thread comparing today's figures to those of 29 January when confirmed cases were very similar. Then, there were 28680 cases, 36931 patients in hospital and 1239 deaths. Compare that to today - 27989 cases, 1795 patients in hospital and 22 deaths.

There are many variables at play of course but it's worth remembering that on 29 January we were in lockdown and most of the deaths in that daily total will have been a result of infections after lockdown began due to the 28 day measure. Looking at today's figures, most people are living relatively normally with schools/hospitality/shops etc open.

It's clear to see that vaccines have broken the link between infections and serious illness, thank goodness. And that will be the measure by which restrictions will end.

I am also one... absolutely no one wants to wear a mask..

I refer you back to TheVampiresWife
post at 17.54.