Angela Merkel launches bid to ban all British travelers from the EU due to Delta variants

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-merkel-launches-bid-to-ban-all-british-travellers-from-the-eu-cn95bjfpk

Well the amber list is nonsense too. People coming to the UK from places with low COVID rates shouldn’t have to isolate. Luckily it looks like the rules re entering the UK might change. I do wonder whether Merkel has embarked on her campaign partly because of the UK’s strict rules.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

Except I guess it was more important family matters necessitating travel to India. I suspect more EU has more holiday flights.

Holidays are just as much a family matter as any other, weddings for example.

What I mean is your less likely to jet off to Asia as last minute cheeky bit of sun. How often have you looked at 10+ flights as a snap desision holiday?

You could travel to India at the time, there was nothing illegal about it. All there is a massive Indian community in the UK. If they needed to go back to see their dying mum why is that so much more abhorrent than a Spanish or Italian person doing the same legally?

Not really sure it's any more ok to be outraged at that than AM really.

@Kendodd

Except I guess it was more important family matters necessitating travel to India.

Bollocks are they important.
That's why we're in this mess (the whole world not just the UK) people thinking they're so special and important they have to travel across the globe.

Sorry but seeing your parents, partners or children at least once a year IS essential.

The other EU countries are not in favour and say each country should make their own rules. It won't go forward. Holiday destination countries are desperate for tourists to return

Sorry but seeing your parents, partners or children at least once a year IS essential.

No it's not.
What terrible think is going to happen if you don't see your family once a year?

How often have you looked at 10+ flights as a snap desision holiday?

Never. I hate that type of holiday and I have two dogs that need sorting out before I go.

Thing*

I'm not sure how places like Spain and Greece feel about being told what their policy should be by the Germans.

The Greeks need tourism. That's why they're making it easier to go to Greece if you're vaccinated, and focussed on getting their islands vaccinated first.

@candycane222

On the other hand, she is in good time for the next , more vaccine resistant variant to be brewed up by infectious UK schoolkids and their vaccinated relatives mixing up every variation of covid and seeing which one transmits best.

I mean, that's how vaccine resistance starts, lots of infections testing themselves out against vaccinated and (espet?) semi-vaccinated adults. Much the same as antibacterial resistance flourishing where there's lots of people (or livestock) with antibiotic in their bloodstream, mingling away.

Javid apparently belives you can end the pandemic simply by saying it's over. Not an encouraging start.

Except that's unlikely. Several scientists have said that the virus has limited capacity to mutate before it becomes unable to infect us.

Warning, Daily Fail link as I couldn't find the interview anywhere else:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9728519/amp/Why-dont-believe-Covid-variant-able-defeat-jab-completely.html

@Kendodd

Sorry but seeing your parents, partners or children at least once a year IS essential.

No it's not.
What terrible think is going to happen if you don't see your family once a year?

Well, mine went and died which was a bit lax of them. Might see their grave once all of this is over I suppose.

Well, mine went and died which was a bit lax of them.

And I feel for you, absolutely genuinely, I do.
But even visiting a dying parent should not be prioritised over limiting the spread of a pandemic that has killed over four million people. Very little travel, beyond moving food and medicine, is essential and the world would be in a much better place if nobody had travelled for business/visiting relatives/holiday during covid.

I'm sorry about your relative

Oh well, there is a whole world to go and see. So rather go somewhere new.

@JustDanceAddict

We are more high risk to countries whose vaccination schedule isn’t as far along as ours.

The UK reliance on AZ and its lower effectiveness on delta is also a factor. Most european countries are much more reliant on mRNA vaccines which provide better protection against delta.

With regard international travel, Mexico is free for us to enter (when I last looked, amber) and has low vaccination rates. So I could go there, maybe to visit relatives, and some of us would be taking Delta with us to seed there. Massively irresponsible imo.

Oh well, there is a whole world to go and see. So rather go somewhere new.

Wouldn't you prefer to stay here than risk helping to seed Delta in a another country?

@Kendodd

Thank you.

Not so much the variant ( although it's more transmissible so it does have implications) as the high rate.
It's the same as we should have done with India or the Alps way back when.

Large percentage of people on each flight liable to be carriers.

People trying to convince me it's not essential to see my family and I should accept it for the unforeseeable future are almost always people with no close family abroad. I suppose it's more essential to be able to go to a football match or down the pub. Oh and to see close family living local, that's essential of course.

I suppose it's more essential to be able to go to a football match or down the pub. Oh and to see close family living local, that's essential of

I don't think anyone has said that.
Tell me, what terrible thing will happen if you don't see your relatives?
And is that terrible thing worse than helping to spread covid around the world (which some people visiting family WILL have done)?

@JosephineDeBeauharnais

Merkel can try all she likes, it’s a sovereign decision and Spain for one is dead against it - they want and need our tourism.

What a ridiculous post. Spain is doing really well with its vaccination program - almost 36% or the population has received both dosis and over 50% at least one. The government is not "dead against it", it has made the requirement that to visit Spain from the UK, you have to present proof of being fully vaccinated or having had a negative PCR 72 hours before the flight.

BTW, the only children exempt from the PCR are the under 6. All children over 6 y.o. MUST have the test.

@Kendodd

Sorry but seeing your parents, partners or children at least once a year IS essential.

No it's not.
What terrible think is going to happen if you don't see your family once a year?

Seriously?

My mum is 83 and she could die without me having seen her again.

Are you for real?

I'll say it once again - we're the laughing stock of the entire world.

Ashamed to be British.

@NannyAndJohn

I'll say it once again - we're the laughing stock of the entire world.

Ashamed to be British.

You said that yesterday and your thread got deleted.

That's because the "anti-dementors" caused a pile on.

I was only around for the first few posts of the thread.

Past caring what the EU do. Just a load of troublemakers as far as I'm concerned. So glad I voted out. Evey day its something else from them to try and make our lives more difficult. Won't affect me. I have no intention of going to Europe till they change their attitude.