Any anti mask people?

[waterloobaby86]

Just on the train back from London and there's a group of people on here who say they've been to a rally against wearing masks.

Ive been told I'm damaging myself by wearing my mask as I'm breathing in chemicals from the material which are harmful to me.

Just wondered - anyone been to this or feel the same way? And what are your reasons?

(Might regret this but genuinely curious) Not after a fight!!

Before COVID did people question why surgeons etc wear masks? Did they think they were useless, dangerous for the wearer etc?

I also don’t see how reusable masks are bad for the environment due to increase in laundry. They really don’t take up much space in a washing machine, they just get put in a load that I am already doing, not a special one. Or is this an MN thing where you mustn’t mix them with anything else.

@womaninatightspot

I work in a tourist town and there are groups of people who don't wear masks. Mainly from Glasgow and surrounds going by the accents. Everyone had a mask on in the supermarket though. Not sure if there is a particular demographic, day drinking beligerents, is that a demographic? However I was told that apparently well to do families are having covid parties for their teens to build up some immunity now that the parents are vaccinated, all v. middle class and outwardly conformist I'm sure. I'm hoping that is just made up nonsense but it wouldn't surprise me tbh.

Nonsense. I'm pretty sure people aren't having parties which would result in their teens missing school, cause their year group to be closed and mean the whole family has to stay indoors for ten days.

I'm double jabbed, I socially distance, I WFH and I test twice a week. I hate wearing a mask. I find it difficult to think in it. It makes me hot. But if the govt says it's best for the country that I wear it, then I'll wear it. I know on these threads that is considered cool to mock the govt and scientists but I don't believe they (esp govt needing votes) would piss us all off if they didn't think it was right. Understandably after making wrong decisions before they are going to be overcautious but if they believe that wearing a mask might help those who are more vulnerable, then I guess that's what I will do.

@ineedaholidaynow

I also don’t see how reusable masks are bad for the environment due to increase in laundry. They really don’t take up much space in a washing machine, they just get put in a load that I am already doing, not a special one. Or is this an MN thing where you mustn’t mix them with anything else.

They're not and it isn't. It's just a silly point to try to make them look worse that they are. I have done no more laundry than before, they go in with everything else.

@moonbedazzled

I'm double jabbed, I socially distance, I WFH and I test twice a week. I hate wearing a mask. I find it difficult to think in it. It makes me hot. But if the govt says it's best for the country that I wear it, then I'll wear it. I know on these threads that is considered cool to mock the govt and scientists but I don't believe they (esp govt needing votes) would piss us all off if they didn't think it was right. Understandably after making wrong decisions before they are going to be overcautious but if they believe that wearing a mask might help those who are more vulnerable, then I guess that's what I will do.

All those people that say wearing a mask is ‘nothing’ or ‘easy’ don’t talk for me or lots of others out there who find it difficult or hate them.

I get claustrophobic easily and masks make me feel panicky and like I’m struggling to breathe. Especially if the weather’s warm. For lots of people it’s really restricted their lives. They stay at home more and avoid going out because wearing a mask is so unpleasant for them.

@bluetongue. I agree. I don't think it's nothing. I hate wearing it. I ran for a coach the other day and then I couldn't cool down because of the mask. I sometimes have to go to a corner of the supermarket to drop it down a bit so I can think straight. I love shopping but wearing a mask puts me off going in shops.

But, if it protects others, then I'll wear it.

@Itsstartingtorainout

I’m exempt but I’m also a conscientious objector. There is no good quality evidence to suggest masks make any difference at all, they are just a tool of control.

Actually, there's plenty of evidence.

"A tool of control"? You sound like a paranoid person who has spending far too much time with paranoid people.

You're not a conscientious objector, don't flatter yourself.

I hate masks and find them hard to wear. I only wear them when mandatory to do so and can't wait for that to be lifted.

However, I mainly object to smug gits who berate those who struggle with masks just because they themselves don't find them a problem. According to them that means that those of us who do find them problematic must be making it up.

I won't bother going on anti-mask marches, but will probably lose patience and gradually cease to wear them over time. I don't like having to wear a piece of cloth over my face that goes damp and clammy very quickly and steams up my glasses. I rather prefer being able to breathe freely and see clearly.

With a cloth one it depends what you wash it in and you may be sensitive to the washing powder chemicals.

I wear my masks as I don’t like breaking rules but equally I agree with what PPs have said that the evidence in support of them actually preventing the spread of Covid being very very flimsy. Having people wear masks suits the government’s narrative of Covid being a dreadful disease which we all should be scared of (you see people in masks and it feels scary and not normal). I think we’ve all, without realising it, been conditioned into wearing them but actually if you even google “evidence that masks prevent the spread of Covid” - there is plenty of stuff there but it’s hardly compelling.

I’m looking forward to not having to wear one, but can’t really see why they’re a tool of control- they’re just an extra safety measure and a social courtesy, mostly worn for very short periods of time. I agree with @Urchinn that there are plenty more compelling examples of control in our society.

Not anti mask per se but wearing one for the duration of a tesco shop once a week gives me terrible spots and extremely bad nausea and retching as I’m pregnant.
The idea that cloth could stop nano particles is hilarious and ridiculous. All they do is prevent some spit / heavy wet breathing from reaching others. Which in some cases will prevent some viral nano particles from escaping, but they are nowhere near as protective as people seem to think they are...

@Psuedoshoes

I do wonder why it's mask wearing they choose to protest. Out of all the changes and sacrifices we've had to make over the last 18 months, surely mask-wearing has to be the easiest?

I've actually found mask wearing the hardest thing about the last year or so. I carried on working throughout, so there was no impact to me there. I'm too poor to go on holidays and expensive days out anyway. As a single parent I've been allowed to bubble with my family.

For me masks are the constant reminder that life has changed so much. I can't go shopping for fun now as they steam up my glasses and I feel hot and claustrophobic in them to do more than pop in and out. Constantly have to remember them, find the children new ones as they've lost them etc. Without masks life would be normal for me. We've all had the jab now so vulnerable family are the safest they've been. Just want this last part over with now.

Was it the freedom rally? They are protesting against everything to do with covid with the bigger picture being fighting for our freedom and world depopulation (part of the World Economic Forum's Agenda, which is available on their website for all to see).

Other countries, when rates are high, seem to think masks outdoors especially in crowded places are a good thing.

The anti mask loons are too thick to understand the science.

Can't be helped, just avoid them. Fortunately my friends are well educated and wear them where it's necessary.

Anything Laurence Fox and Piers Corbyn attend is not a thing to be taken seriously. Crazies and conspiracy theorists abound

I'm anti mask, vile dirty things, the material ones are just as bad not just hygiene reason either, it takes material years to break down. There is lots of evidence that masks are useless, there was a time in the hight of covid where the gov said they there was no eveidnece that fasks work and we didn't even wear them,they clearly haven't stopped the spread.

@whymewhyme wasn't the time the Government said masks were useless, early on when we didn't know much about the virus. Once more was known the WHO recommended them. Early on surface transmission was concentrated on, until they realised airborne transmission was significant, hence masks and ventilation being important

@PopcornMuncher

I don't think our understanding of how respiratory diseases transmit has changed since March 2020.

I don't know if they work or not as I have no medical or scientific training but I'm sceptical given how the disease took off since they were mandated. I don't really buy the "think how much worse it would have been without them" either

Regarding coronavirus, it really has. It was assumed to not be airborne, and there was a focus of fomite transmission.

I don't know if they work or not as I have no medical or scientific training but I'm sceptical given how the disease took off since they were mandated. I don't really buy the "think how much worse it would have been without them" either

There's plenty of evidence to show that masks reduce the amount of viral particles in the surrounding environment if an infectious person wears a mask. Trying to argue that masks don't work because infections grew as they were mandated is illogical, it's a pandemic.

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@whymewhyme wasn't the time the Government said masks were useless, early on when we didn't know much about the virus. Once more was known the WHO recommended them. Early on surface transmission was concentrated on, until they realised airborne transmission was significant, hence masks and ventilation being important[/quote]
As has been discussed to actually death on here, the CMO stated early in the pandemic that a cloth mask won't protect the wearer from coronavirus. This was true then and is now.

What became apparent later on in the pandemic, is that a significant amount of people with CV are asymptomatic and that it is highly transmissible - therefore when infectious they're not confined to bed and are walking around unknowingly expelling viral particles. In this context, it makes a huge difference, on a population level, for everyone to wear a mask if they care, on the chance that they are infectious.

@nomorecrumbs

I am more concerned about the environmental impact which disposable masks are having, and the additional laundry which the reusable ones are creating.

I never use disposable ones. I have a clean fabric one each day. They go in with my ordinary laundry. They're so small I have no additional loads as a result of masks for me and dh.

@FTEngineerM

One thing I found odd today and it did surprise me because I’m not sure I can make sense of it. I went to a particular part of town and nobody wore masks in the super market, well very few anyway. Is there a demographic that refuse to wear them? I don’t get it.

Mask wearing compliance is really high from what I can see where I live and work, in Sheffield. Even the large shopping complex - it's really high and unusual to see any one without.

Teen Dd goes to university near Liverpool and says local people round Liverpool and NW areas haven't been wearing them throughout, in quite large numbers. Seems compliance is fairly low round there. She and her friends have had local people call over to them, basically mocking them for wearing a mask. Not part of a rally or protest, just on a normal day/evening out.

@thenightsky

I hate the bloody things. Mine is soaking wet within about 10 mins and feels vile. Worse now the hayfever season is upon us. I'm thinking I might make myself a lace one that I can actually breathe through, but still meet the performance rules as it would be a 'face covering'.

Soaking wet! What do you do with it!!