Any anti mask people?

[waterloobaby86]

Just on the train back from London and there's a group of people on here who say they've been to a rally against wearing masks.

Ive been told I'm damaging myself by wearing my mask as I'm breathing in chemicals from the material which are harmful to me.

Just wondered - anyone been to this or feel the same way? And what are your reasons?

(Might regret this but genuinely curious) Not after a fight!!

It is what it is and if they’ve helped even a bit then it’s worth it. But they are a pain and i think it can be hard to wear them for long periods-fast food workers i feel particularly bad for. I think that they have a right to work in a comfortable environment that seems to have been ignored/it’s been an unreasonable change to their work environment. Healthcare workers it comes with the territory more I suppose. Seems a bit ridiculous at times. At my work everyone is double vaccinated and we dont wear masks sat at desks in the open plan office (fairly small office) yet have to put them on to walk 30 seconds to the toilets-to walk further away from people. I forgot once and felt stupidly guilty/awkward.

"A tool of control".
Correct. For controlling the spread of a killer virus.

I don't know about chemicals but all the people who wear unwashed cloth masks, the germs that are on them cannot possibly be good for you...

I wear a mask, on the rare occasion I go out. I hate them, with a vengance.

I'm quite deaf, though normally manage with hearing aids and lip reading. But masks prevent lip reading. As a result, my d d has to come with me whenever discussion is required (vaccinations, buying a stroller etc).

I also have copd and asthma. I know I could claim a dispensation, but I don't choose to.

I would sooner be uncomfortable myself, than expect the person next to me to feel so. After all, I know why masks are difficult for me, the person next to me does not.

I don't wear a mask to keep me safe, I wear one to keep others safe.

Fair enough as far as I'm concerned

@thenightsky

I hate the bloody things. Mine is soaking wet within about 10 mins and feels vile. Worse now the hayfever season is upon us. I'm thinking I might make myself a lace one that I can actually breathe through, but still meet the performance rules as it would be a 'face covering'.

Some people gross! What do you do to them to make them soaking wet after 10mins?

Without exception all of the anti maskers I know are avid conspiracy theorists and also anti vaxxers. I don't think they tend to put much critical thinking into things, they just hear the word sheeple and start bleating.

@lljkk

Need for assessing the inhalation of micro(nano)plastic debris shed from masks, respirators, and home-made face coverings during the COVID-19 pandemic

“With proven efficacy in barring the inhalation of airborne pathogens, medical face masks and respirators manufactured to industrial standards are highly effective in filtering respirable virus carriers.”

“These home-made cloth masks, if properly made and worn, can provide significant protection against airborne pathogens (Konda et al., 2020; Zhao et al., 2020).”

So that piece states that masks are effective - good stuff !

I honestly don’t mind them.

Talk about lifting the need for them is just that really, talk. I’ve mentioned it elsewhere on MN but Israel tried going maskless about 2 weeks ago, from tomorrow they’re back to masks because they realised they make that much of an impact.

There’s a lot of noise on the threads about them but it seems MN is an echo chamber of Anti maskers, real life doesn’t seem to reflect the whinging you see here.

😷🤍

Waterloo: I don't enjoy the debate but it comes to me.

I want the least hot-tempered, least contentious way forward. Probably means keeping masks in most public spaces after 19 July because we're used to it now, not forever, just a few more months.

Some people gross! What do you do to them to make them soaking wet after 10mins?

Well sorry for breathing! I don't know what i do to make them wet, but I do. Sorry for being 'gross'. Explain to me how to breathe dryly.

" there is already a growing body of evidence on the inhalation of micro(nano)plastics and their adverse effects in humans and animals (Prata, 2018)." Env Poll

Surgical face masks as a potential source for microplastic pollution in the COVID-19 scenario Marine Pollution Bulletin

high levels of pollutants, including lead, antimony, and copper, within the silicon-based and plastic fibres of common disposable face masks Swansea Uni

The lack of other circulating respiratory viruses has left a lot of people, especially children, very vulnerable. Lockdown in winter 2021-22 would be for RSV, flu, etc.

I perceive all that is very acceptable to most MNers & most the British public, just me doesn't like it.

@Thewiseoneincognito

I honestly don’t mind them.

Talk about lifting the need for them is just that really, talk. I’ve mentioned it elsewhere on MN but Israel tried going maskless about 2 weeks ago, from tomorrow they’re back to masks because they realised they make that much of an impact.

There’s a lot of noise on the threads about them but it seems MN is an echo chamber of Anti maskers, real life doesn’t seem to reflect the whinging you see here.

😷🤍

Isn’t Israel reintroducing them because of the delta variant causing a rise in cases, as opposed to cases rising due to everything being the same except the lack of masks?

@SlipperyDippery I suppose it’s the same thing? They realised they made an impact on cases,p. The approach to Delta needs to be robust and getting rid of masks was a mistake they’re quickly correcting.

I think that some people are averse to being told what to do. Perhaps they grew up with money and are used to having their way all the time, or maybe they grew up resenting authority. So they get told they must do something and the rebel.

This creates a demand for arguments to support that position, so people make them up, and everyone affected grabs these arguments so they don't feel like a bad person. There's a certain amount of denial at play here, but it doesn't matter - "sticking it to the man" is far more important.

At this point the world divides neatly into 3 groups - the dastardly authority you are carrying out a righteous struggle against, the sheep who do as they're told, and you - the enlightened freedom fighter.

By that logic the eye mask I wear at night is probably why I need glasses.

I have severe asthma and am lucky enough to be able to manage with a mask on for the school run, shopping etc. The only drawback for me is that it leaves lines on my nose (buggers up my foundation). I disinfect after every use. It's not particularly inconvenient.
I do get annoyed with anti maskers when I'm using my inhaler after walking two miles on the school run before I put it on and then other parents take the piss strutting in straight from their cars because they don't believe in masks.

@nomorecrumbs

I am more concerned about the environmental impact which disposable masks are having, and the additional laundry which the reusable ones are creating.

Aye, I agree. But I'm not anti-mask. I think they do provide some protection. It's just a shame it's at such a cost to the environment.

The only people I’ve seen not wear them in any numbers are occasional groups of young men and women - they tend to display other behaviours that would indicate they’re thick as mince. Perhaps I just live in a very law abiding part of the world.

Never worn one, never will.

It's a total scam.

@Maskless

Never worn one, never will.

It's a total scam.

a scam in what sense ?

People not wearing masks, great idea. Just look at how well it’s going in America. In a county government building in Florida, masks were “optional” and not encouraged. So someone spread COVID in the IT department. Out of seven employees, two are dead, four were still hospitalized when the article was published, and the only employee who didn't get infected is the ONLY one who was immunized. So six government employees chose not to wear masks, not to get immunized, and so far, two of them have died for it, and I don’t know if the other four will survive. Says a lot about how the whole “my mask - my freedom” and vaccine hesitancy or refusal going on over there. AND THEN they close the building for cleaning over the weekend, reopen the Monday following, and still make it clear… masks are optional.

edition.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/florida-manatee-county-coronavirus-outbreak/index.html

You cannot write this outside a dystopian novel, and not the kind with an attractive teenage female protagonist who always has perfect hair and has to choose between two boys, but real proper “1984” or “Catch-22” type shite.

They hadn't been to a rally for not wearing masks. If in London surely it was today's freedom march? A march where thousands of people protested about the Draconian and mostly unnecessary restrictions.

Masks are useless. If they stopped transmission in any way I'm sure we would all be instructed to wear a particular type. It seems any old rag hanging off your chin will do.

I agree it's yet another control measure. The government are no doubt highly amused at how compliant people have been. Grown intelligent adults now unable to think for themselves.

To answer your question, I stopped wearing a mask a while ago. Did as I was told for quite a long time but now I see how we've been well and truly played.

I do wonder why it's mask wearing they choose to protest. Out of all the changes and sacrifices we've had to make over the last 18 months, surely mask-wearing has to be the easiest?

@Itsstartingtorainout

I’m exempt but I’m also a conscientious objector. There is no good quality evidence to suggest masks make any difference at all, they are just a tool of control.

Objector, yes. Conscientious? Unlikely. If you were, you'd have you'd have found quality evidence with very little effort. Evidence that in some studies shows even basic fabric masks offering 50-60% protection. And even if they offered only 20%, for the cost of a single coffee, why wouldn't you?

If you're genuinely worried about control I suggest focusing on digital surveillance by governments and big tech. Think about cookies, advertising and rampant consumerism. Think about social media, profiling and how elections can be bought through targeted advertising/propaganda. Think about why swathes of hopefully intelligent young women feel obliged to pay thousands to inject poisons into their faces and hide behind cosmetic masks in order to blend into the herd of Kardashian lookalikes. That is control. Not life saving masks or vaccines.

@Willowwisp23

They hadn't been to a rally for not wearing masks. If in London surely it was today's freedom march? A march where thousands of people protested about the Draconian and mostly unnecessary restrictions.

Masks are useless. If they stopped transmission in any way I'm sure we would all be instructed to wear a particular type. It seems any old rag hanging off your chin will do.

I agree it's yet another control measure. The government are no doubt highly amused at how compliant people have been. Grown intelligent adults now unable to think for themselves.

To answer your question, I stopped wearing a mask a while ago. Did as I was told for quite a long time but now I see how we've been well and truly played.

Would you care to explain why? A control measure for what purpose? We've been played for what purpose?

conscientious objector

Comparing oneself to the brave and forthright people who were conscientious objectors in wars is repulsive. Find a better word to describe yourself.