No legal compulsion to wear face masks once restrictions are lifted

[MurdockTheMouse]

Sky News reporting this morning that George Eustice has said with the removal of restrictions on July 19th will also come the removal of legal requirements to wear face coverings. I’m torn on how I feel about this.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-no-legal-compulsion-to-wear-face-masks-when-restrictions-are-lifted-minister-says-12340495

I can’t imagine a grubby piece of fabric (I work in a school - some kids don’t wash them) or a pointless plastic visor make a great deal of difference.
Wearing them to walk a few feet to a loo in a cafe or pub is ludicrous and also pointless.
Of course proper face masks are appropriate in medical settings.

I can’t wait to get rid.

I’m pretty sure we will still Have to wear them to work for 12 hours! I’m a carer! But I don’t mind if it means having face freedom in other place

I have had constant colds throughout despite wearing a mask. Why...? Because I has a samll child who didn't have to wear one in school, so the blessed darling was still getting colds and passing them on. Total waste of time and money.

THANK GOD!!!!!

First of all, there was a Denmark study concluding that masks don't work, but it was getting censored left right and centre when it came out.

Second, the experts who say masks prevent the spread also say that is only true if you wear a medical masks that you dispose of after a shirt period of time and put on a new one and during that time do not touch the mask or your face.

If you pay attention to the people around absolutely no one is wearing it correctly! Half are wearing cloth ones, half are touching them constantly, putting around their chin and precisely zero people are changing them after a short period.

So why would I even need a study telling me masks don't work when I can see with my two eyes that people are not wearing them in the correct way that makes them work?

Are we not allowed to have opinions anymore that come from our own logic, we are only allowed to have opinions that are told to us by experts and studies? It would certainly seem so.

Fantastic news

That doesn’t mean that masks don’t work though, that means there’s a problem with application and types of masks.

Went to the Trafford Centre yesterday and I reckon well over a third of people there were not wearing a mask. I wear one myself but I follow the rules in general anyway . I certainly would not be putting one on my toddler under any circumstances.

Honey12346

Agree with you 100%

If they didn't work the NHS wouldn't have insisted theatre staff wear them for sterile procedures for the last few decades

I wear a mask without complaint but masks haven’t been worn for decades because of covid 19, but because of any number of potential pathogens we could be breathing out, many of which are bigger and more easily caught by a mask than covid 19.

How well masks stop covid 19 spreading depends on the mask being worn. Plenty of covid particles get through non-FFP masks though, masks help but really aren’t the be all and end all.

@SlipperyDippery but who said they were supposed to ever be the ‘be all and end all? They are used in conjunction with several other measures such as social distancing, hand washing and sanitising etc. None of which have been implemented very well by the U.K. because we can’t stand to be told what to do. It doesn’t mean they are not effective.

@Poorlykitten I suppose it depends what you mean by “effective”, or saying masks “work”. What’s your threshold for that? A 1% reduction in exhaled covid particles? 10%? 50%? And it depends on the mask being worn and which variant of covid (I understand other countries feel cloth masks don’t really help with the delta variant).

As I said in my post I’m happy to wear a mask but of course people can talk about whether it’s proportionate to ask people to wear them once it’s no longer required. Part of that is discussing how big of an impact they actually make. There’s another mask thread at the moment where a poster with ASD (I think) has explained that she cannot wear one without resorting to harmful coping mechanisms and she has been told in that case she should stay at home. I find that disgusting. It’s as if for some people it’s a psychological thing, seeing a barrier between someone’s mouth and them because once you understand that masks don’t stop someone passing covid to you, and in fact some masks (eg cloth) do not all that much to stop the spread at all, it’s hard to understand quite how het up people get when someone isn’t wearing.

Like I have posted previously, medical grade masks worn correctly can be effective. If you have a real problem with elevating a mask you can be exempt. I see plenty of people with lanyards about . I don’t get her up about people not wearing them just don’t like people saying ‘well, they are useless anyway’ after watching one Danish conspiracy theory video on YouTube, rather than investigating scientific articles on the subject. They can be effective if used correctly, they f you feel like you have a real problem wearing one, don’t.

*wearing not elevating!

If they didn't work the NHS wouldn't have insisted theatre staff wear them for sterile procedures for the last few decades

Can't believe people keep posting about theater , if you can't tell difference between air controlled, sterile environments then you are just beyond help.

[quote SlipperyDippery]@Poorlykitten I suppose it depends what you mean by “effective”, or saying masks “work”. What’s your threshold for that? A 1% reduction in exhaled covid particles? 10%? 50%? And it depends on the mask being worn and which variant of covid (I understand other countries feel cloth masks don’t really help with the delta variant).

As I said in my post I’m happy to wear a mask but of course people can talk about whether it’s proportionate to ask people to wear them once it’s no longer required. Part of that is discussing how big of an impact they actually make. There’s another mask thread at the moment where a poster with ASD (I think) has explained that she cannot wear one without resorting to harmful coping mechanisms and she has been told in that case she should stay at home. I find that disgusting. It’s as if for some people it’s a psychological thing, seeing a barrier between someone’s mouth and them because once you understand that masks don’t stop someone passing covid to you, and in fact some masks (eg cloth) do not all that much to stop the spread at all, it’s hard to understand quite how het up people get when someone isn’t wearing.[/quote]
I'm that poster. Yes I have autism, with sensory processing disorder thrown in the mix.
Thankfully where I live people are far more understanding than the poster who thinks I should be locked away and that includes someone on my street that I regularly talked to from the other end of her front garden while she was shielding.

Brilliant news. I’ll be binning the bloody thing as soon as this is confirmed.

I’m amazed at how popular this post has proven It’s been interesting to see others views on it

@BigusBumus

I'm getting to the point where I just want to burn all the fucking things.

The other day I walked into Waitrose, did a full shop and paid and only then realised I hadn't got a mask on! I said to the supervisor woman at the end of the tills, "Oh my god im so sorry, I hadn't realised I wasn't wearing a mask" and she just said, "Its not a problem, don't worry about it". Not one single person had said anything or looked at me funny in the whole time, about 40 minutes!

You are lucky, I dropped mine in a dirty puddle once by accident and forgot bring any spare , so went into the shop to get one . I got a mouthful of abuse off another customer as I did not have one on , I tread to explain it was very wet and dirty . but she was to busy shouting abuse and making a big fuss to listen , she her her mums got cancer and its my responsibility to protect her mum( I don't know her mum ) . I am sure standing in a shop shouting and being abusive about it trying to get me banned is really going to help to stop the spread of covid 19 . I know the shopkeeper personally who just allowed me to be served first and just ignored her ranting .

I seen a young women in the supermarket who could not wear one due medical issues being pulled up on it by an old man calling her young and too stupid to wear one who could not give flying fudge if she could not wear one for medical reason( she got ASD and sensory issues that makes her distressed if she wears one ) and he got health problems( COPD) and he wears one and so should she wear one like him regardless . I could not help feel sorry for the young lady who was clearly upset .

Wildewoodz: It is a reputable source although not UK. Up to you whether you wish to believe it.

I looked at some of the other articles, and "reputable" really isn't a word I would use to describe them.

It was full of inaccurate racist tosh like this:

" Those who have been injected for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) are greater than six times more likely to die from a circulating “variant” like “Delta” than are unvaccinated people who just say no to strange experimental drugs from Tony Fauci and the government.

New data published by Public Health England on Friday found that compared to non-jabbed people, those who took the poison for the Chinese Virus are far more likely to suffer an excruciating death upon exposure to one of the many Wuhan Flu variants that the media says are spreading."

You really have to sift through all the online crap to fine the reputable stuff!

Anyone who thinks that article about masks is in any way reputable needs to go on a "How to Spot Bullshit" course. If masks caused lung cancer, I think that link would have been spotted a long time ago when operating theatre staff began dropping like flies. Which they of course didn't.