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Just wondering if those that have refused to have the vaccine are now wishing they had?

532 replies

Lovemusic33 · 22/06/2021 10:26

There’s a lot of talk about vaccinated people not having to quarantine in the future making travel easier, the possibility of a vaccine passport to be able to go to events and travel.

I have several friends that have refused to have the vaccine due to conspiracy theories and ‘not knowing the risks’, if they had taken the first vaccine they would have had their 2nd by now and potentially be ok to travel in the coming weeks or attend events, there even talk of some jobs needing vaccination (care workers).

I’m just wondering if anyone regrets their choice not to vaccinate?

BTW, I am vaccinated but I’m not judging those who decided against it, just wondering if they have changed their minds?

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TheVanguardSix · 22/06/2021 14:29

I think it is unfair that those who have chosen not to take this vaccine are labelled as "anti-vaxxers", this is still a very new vaccine, for a new virus.

Thank you! This!!

Divebar2021 · 22/06/2021 14:30

I should think the point they will regret it will be when they are being wheeled into hospital. I doubt they’re going to come here and concede they may have made a mistake.

Lostinacloud · 22/06/2021 14:32

Great post @TheDailyCarbunkle Brew

To answer some of the questions about where I think we’d be today if everyone wanted to wait until 2023 before getting vaccinated, I think we’d be in exactly the same place but better!

The Elderly and vulnerable were vaccinated by March and hospitalisations and deaths have been under control ever since despite fluctuations in case numbers. These groups of society faced the highest risk of serious illness or death from covid and so the balance of risk against taking a new vaccine vs serious illness was more balanced. The vast majority of the rest of society were never going to get seriously ill, be hospitalised or die from covid anyway and so didn’t need to be vaccinated, perhaps eventually obtaining natural immunity from natural infection and creating herd immunity that way.
Meanwhile, the whole of society and industry could have been fully open for months and saved a whole heap of NHS delay, lost businesses, mental health crisis and probably also suicide deaths and deaths from other missed diagnosis or late treatments.

On top of that we perhaps wouldn’t be heading further down this hideous slope of government control, lost bodily autonomy and discrimination.

I find it really sad that so many people feel coerced into getting the vaccine rather than choosing it for themselves. Whether that’s due to societal pressure, the result of government peddled fear or the promise of more freedoms we should have anyway! All coercion is fundamentally wrong.

PianoAndGuitar · 22/06/2021 14:33

A lot of them are just plain needle phobic (which I have alot of sympathy with) and have been using anti vax arguments as an excuse not to have it, up until now.

I know loads of people who haven’t had the vaccine, the vast majority give blood regularly so I’m not sure how true this is.

Tiari · 22/06/2021 14:33

Divebar2021
And I doubt anyone who has been seriously damaged by vaccine is going to come here and concede they may have made a mistake.

bishbashbosh99 · 22/06/2021 14:33

Always cracks me up when people insert an either made up or irrelevant but wanky job title next to their post if they say they havnt had it. Mate, no one gives a fuck what you or your partner do for a living, that's zero to do with whether you want a jab or not! Lols

TheVanguardSix · 22/06/2021 14:35

TheDailyCarbunkle 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Lostinacloud thank you for reposting!

TheDailyCarbunkle · 22/06/2021 14:36

[quote Hornbill123456789]@TheDailyCarbunkle I’m well aware of what you have stated, everyone knows there could be the possibility of delayed side effects. Yet I’m prepared to take that risk. Much as when I drink wine, shove any substance in my body, or take any medication (my Dad took a ‘new’ type of heart medication) I take a risk. Who knows what new studies will show in 20 years time?

If we all took your stance - where would we be now? Is it fair that you are relying on the rest of us ‘sheep’ to do it?[/quote]
I haven't call anyone sheep. That's a word you've chosen for some reason.

If we all took your stance - where would we be now?
I find this a really odd question. Taking the stance that the medication you inject into a healthy person should be safe isn't a controversial one. If everyone took that stance we'd be wherever we would be with covid, with fewer people dying from vaccines I presume.

What I don't understand is why healthy young people dying from covid is a massive tragedy but healthy young people dying from the injection they accepted in good faith from a healthcare provider is not?

If the whole world has to stop because of the risk of covid, where is the response to the risk of vaccines? The world doesn't have to stop but maybe stopping injecting people with a dangerous substance would be a start?

AgathaAllAlong · 22/06/2021 14:38

No regrets. Still prefer to not travel abroad than to inejct myself with a brand new vaccine about which, as you say, "we don't know the risks".

Tiari · 22/06/2021 14:39

I find it strange that "choosing" not to have the jab has become "refusing" ?

DaddyCool60 · 22/06/2021 14:42

@Tiari

Divebar2021 And I doubt anyone who has been seriously damaged by vaccine is going to come here and concede they may have made a mistake.
Why wouldn't you? Do you seriously think people would cover up that valuable info just to save themselves looking stupid? Or is that what you hope happens - to justify your own selfish decision not to have it?
AgathaAllAlong · 22/06/2021 14:45

@DaddyCool60 Can you explain to me why choosing not to have this vaccine is a 'selfish decision'?

Pinchoftums · 22/06/2021 14:45

I know 4 people now who were very hesitant, I wouldn't say they were anti-vax just a bit worried. For two of them the travel thing made a massive impact and have they have gone ahead and have their vaccines for the other two it was that lots of people and you had had it with bad effect other than a few days of feeling shite. I do know a few others but sadly they have been picked up the QAnon cult and have been sucked into a world of A-lister paedo's and blood drinking stuff. Hopefully one day they will be freed from it.

KeepingTrack · 22/06/2021 14:49

If we all took your stance - where would we be now? Is it fair that you are relying on the rest of us ‘sheep’ to do it?

The risks are very different for different people though @Hornbill123456789.

Someone in their 80s might well think the risks are really worth taking. Higher risk of death from covid but small risk in the future- on the ground that they are u likely to live another 20 years.
Someone who is 18yo might well have a very different approach. The risk of covid are very low for them. But the unknown risks are potentially much more life changing. I’m think fertility issues (IVF clinic won’t let you do your ivf if you’ve just had the jab), auto immune disease etc….

People get vaccinated because they have a certain evaluation of risk. Just like you they think the risk is no more than taking the car or driving ing a bit too much. Others don’t.

I haven’t yet met someone who says they are not going to get it because they rely on others to protect them. They are not relying on ‘sheep’ (hence too why they might not regret as much as we are told they are)

Flowerlane · 22/06/2021 14:53

@Divebar2021

I should think the point they will regret it will be when they are being wheeled into hospital. I doubt they’re going to come here and concede they may have made a mistake.
What about the people who are currently in hospital with covid despite having the vaccine?

Don’t know how many times it’s been said but I will repeat it for you…

You can still get covid even if you are vaccinated!

Tiari · 22/06/2021 14:53

@DaddyCool60
It works both ways, doesn't it? Divebar2021 doubted people who have chosen not to vaccinate will come here and concede. I am doubting people who have been damaged will come here and concede.
Are opinions only allowed one way now?

DaddyCool60 · 22/06/2021 14:54

@ AgathaAllAlong thanks for demonstrating that you don’t understand what the vaccination is for. Clue one - it’s not about protecting you.

canigooutyet · 22/06/2021 14:56

No regrets at all.
The vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus.

Would love to know the figures of those testing positive that have had the vaccine.

bumbleymummy · 22/06/2021 14:59

[quote Hornbill123456789]@bumbleymummy that’s the problem! You’ve assessed it purely on your own personal risk. You’re not thinking about controlling the spread of infection for society as a whole. It’s individualism v’s altruism - and you’ve taken a very individualistic stance. Society needs altruism to get Covid under control.[/quote]
No it doesn’t. It needs people who are most likely to end up in hospital to get vaccinated - which the vast majority of them are happy to do. If this virus wasn’t causing hospitalisations/deaths then no one would have given it a second thought.

DayKay · 22/06/2021 15:00

I’m not an anti vaxxer but decided to see what was going on as there was talk about boosters in the autumn etc
I figured as I already had covid, I’d still have antibodies over the summer and then look to see what happens this autumn.
I think if you have natural antibodies, that should count the same as having vaccine created antibodies.

DaddyCool60 · 22/06/2021 15:00

@ Tiari. “ Are opinions only allowed one way now?” What a daft reply. Can’t you take someone disagreeing with you?

Tiari · 22/06/2021 15:00

@DaddyCool60
I don't believe I am selfish in waiting until trials are completed, I think it's a sensible decision. Furthermore, to accuse me of hoping people will come here and say they've been damaged is a seriously immature attitude.
In fact, you are sounding bitter and a bit frantic. Are you regretting having the vaccine?

Toty · 22/06/2021 15:04

The vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus.

The vaccinated I know don't seem to understand this which does make me question someone's intelligence tbh. Most of my clients are vaccinated. I have to enter their homes, around 90% think its fine for them to no longer wear masks 'it's OK, I'm vaccinated' is the stock response. Too many vaccinated people have stopped behaving responsibly, they are the ones who will end up contributing to further cases.

ineedaholidaynow · 22/06/2021 15:08

If no-one was having the jab surely we would still be in lockdown and NHS overwhelmed, so people not having the vaccine are very reliant on those who have

Lostinacloud · 22/06/2021 15:09

In a more direct answer to the question, no I don’t regret not being vaccinated. The risk of covid to me as a healthy woman in my 40’a hasn’t changed since vaccines became available. The only thing that’s changed is my potential access to travel and employment and if anyone thinks that is acceptable then I amazed and sad for the future of humanity.

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