Just wondering if those that have refused to have the vaccine are now wishing they had?

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There’s a lot of talk about vaccinated people not having to quarantine in the future making travel easier, the possibility of a vaccine passport to be able to go to events and travel.

I have several friends that have refused to have the vaccine due to conspiracy theories and ‘not knowing the risks’, if they had taken the first vaccine they would have had their 2nd by now and potentially be ok to travel in the coming weeks or attend events, there even talk of some jobs needing vaccination (care workers).

I’m just wondering if anyone regrets their choice not to vaccinate?

BTW, I am vaccinated but I’m not judging those who decided against it, just wondering if they have changed their minds?

[quote shewalkslikerihanna]@DaddyCool60
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You say I’m angry which I’m not. Pointless engaging with someone who likes to project emotions on people. Good luck with the COVID lottery

But the vaxes are the exact same lottery.
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And surely you can see that the odds are infinitely better on the vaccine. Make your choices and accept the consequences.

No, we are not all being coerced in to anything but the choice is yours. Everything carries a risk. I assume you or your children have been vaccinated for some diseases during the course of your life? The covid vaccines are no different in that they also carry risks. Currently they are saving a lot of lives. Hospital admissions are low and deaths are too. You make your choices but please don’t share or perpetuate false numbers and made up nonsense, which is happening on here. If you have statistics, back them up from a reputable source. Social media does not count.

Risk/benefit for vaccine/virus really depends on age/whether or not you have other conditions that make you more vulnerable.

Risks/benefits etc… that’s the same for every vaccine. That’s the same for most health choices in life.

we are not all being coerced in to anything but the choice is yours. Everything carries a risk.

I would argue that many people have been coerced into the vaccine by the idea of vaccine passports being a requirement for travel/other benefits. And that some people have been guilted into having it to ‘protect the vulnerable’ who were actually vaccinated before them. Younger people with no underlying conditions are extremely unlikely to be seriously ill.

Any stats I’ve quoted have come from the ONS/MHRA or publications in scientific journals.

@Poorlykitten

Risks/benefits etc… that’s the same for every vaccine. That’s the same for most health choices in life.

Well, yes. And people don’t always make the same decisions because their own personal risk benefit ratio is different to other people’s. Eg. Some people are more at risk of flu so they decide to have the flu vaccine every year and others don’t.

Nope don't regret not having it, no amount of blackmail and coercion will change my mind. If you have had it you should be free from any restrictions should you not?

@NotAncientHistory

yes, this is a mistake the government is just learning. DP's hospital has Covid patients - majority are middle-aged people who decided not to get the vaccine (but are still happy to spread the virus within hospitals when seeking medical treatment). A lot of people will only get the vaccine when there is a personal benefit. This is the individualist culture that Boris Johnson's type of right-wing popularism promotes. So the government do need to make it in someone's personal interest to get vaccinated to keep numbers of Antivaxxing Covid spreaders out of hospital.

And your DP needs to learn about patient confidentiality

If you feel you are being ‘coerced’ and are feeling ‘guilty’I think that is your problem sadly. If you truly believe you are making the right choice then what does it matter? For example lots of people give their children phones in earlysecondary but I choose not to, the guilt is there and the pressure to conform but I’m not blaming anyone else. It’s my choice. I don’t know anyone who has asked me about my vaccine choices so really who cares? I suggest you get off mumsnet if you are feeling pressured and coerced. The problem with this virus is not ts a bit of a lottery and we don’t actually know if we are in a risk group. A nursing friend of mine died at 30 from COVID-19. No outward reason for that and most data would point to her being not at risk. The figures are showing less deaths and less hospitalisations. That’s very promising. Fortunately not everyone feels the way you do but you are absolutely allowed to make your own choices. Sadly, since our government was s pretty useless, the vaccine route seems to be, at this point in time, our way out of this.

@Poorlykitten is that directed at me? I don’t feel guilty and I’m not going to be coerced/pressured into it. I can see that some people do though - from this thread and others. These are people who had the vaccine even though they didn’t really want it.

I have no problem with vaccinating people who are most likely to be seriously ill/hospitalised/die (and offering it to others who want it) but I don’t think that everyone needs to be vaccinated against a virus that is mild for the vast majority to ‘get us out of this’.

I would love to hear your thoughts on how we ‘get out of this’? Given that new variants are coming along at a pace….

No regrets. The more they push it (coercion and blackmail) the less I want it. If that means I can never travel abroad again then so be it.

@bumbleymummy yes, directed at you, you spoke about people being ‘coerced’, that’s really only their problem. Pressure and difficult decisions are part of life. We can’t be responsible for people that feel bad due to their decisions. Make peace with it or change the decision.

Yes, I was talking about others. Your post just seemed to be directed at me and my feelings personally.

@Youhavesomethinginyourteeth

No regrets. The more they push it (coercion and blackmail) the less I want it. If that means I can never travel abroad again then so be it.

Are you anti science or anti rules and being advised (not forced!) or a bit of both? I and all family members and friends over 18 are doing it because we rather not risk not taking added protection as much as a necessity to keep society open including international mixing in the future. It is your health your choice but the vaccination does only help to prevent spreading and so further closing of society and businesses.

If that means I can never travel abroad again then so be it.

Travelling was one of the various reasons I had it as I really want to go abroad again. I actually decided that if DH didn't have it I would find someone else to go with! Thankfully he's had both jabs

@Tiari

I wonder if/when there is a safer and more effective second generation vaccine released, will the early takers be regretful?

I think some are already regretful, going by the pissed off comments on here and lashing out at posters who have decided to wait.

you've said this before and again, no one is lashing out, there's just understandable frustration at all the anti-vax crap being spread

don't have the vaccination if you don't want to, of course. But don't justify it by saying it doesn't make a difference, it causes long term side effects, everyone who takes it will die

it's so ridiculously unnecessary

The booster vaccines are being worked on with details due to be released shortly ready for a winter vaccination programme and yes I will have a booster as I have confidence that it will be as safe as the two AZ vaccines I have already have.

ollyollyoxenfree
don't have the vaccination if you don't want to, of course. But don't justify it by saying it doesn't make a difference, it causes long term side effects, everyone who takes it will die

I think you're getting me mixed up with someone else. I haven't said any of those things. I wouldn't say any of those things.

@Tiari

ollyollyoxenfree don't have the vaccination if you don't want to, of course. But don't justify it by saying it doesn't make a difference, it causes long term side effects, everyone who takes it will die

I think you're getting me mixed up with someone else. I haven't said any of those things. I wouldn't say any of those things.

No @Tiari I wasn't saying that you had

It was in response to you saying vaccinated people were "lashing out" at those who had chosen to not have it, and I was saying I haven't seen any evidence of that. I have seen frustration at the level of misinformation being spread, and gave examples.

I’ve had my first vaccine (in March) and I’ve refused my second! Ive horrendous headaches that are just starting to ease now I’ve got muscle damage where I was injected into which spasms shooting pains and loosing strength in my arm it’s horrible

@Hornbill123456789 that post was the biggest load of hyperbole I've read. The poster hadn't even been tested for covid, wasn't hospitalised, and just seemed a drama queen. I'm 50, had covid last year, wasn't ill, and yesterday still tested positive for antibodies.

@Tinkcat2

I’ve had my first vaccine (in March) and I’ve refused my second! Ive horrendous headaches that are just starting to ease now I’ve got muscle damage where I was injected into which spasms shooting pains and loosing strength in my arm it’s horrible

Do you mind me asking what vaccine you had?

A relative is refusing her 2nd vaccine (she had AZ) also as she has something wrong with the arm she had the vaccine in. She has been to the doctors and is waiting for a referral to the hospital where they are going to scan it. She is in so much pain from shoulder to elbow. Some days she can hardly move it. She keeps being told it’s nothing to do with the vaccine but it started literally within days of her having the 1st one.

[quote labtest57]@Hornbill123456789 that post was the biggest load of hyperbole I've read. The poster hadn't even been tested for covid, wasn't hospitalised, and just seemed a drama queen. I'm 50, had covid last year, wasn't ill, and yesterday still tested positive for antibodies.[/quote]
Do you mind me asking which antibody test you used @labtest57?

@bumbleymummy It was one ordered from the government website, gov.uk/order-antibody-test. Took ages to fill the vial with enough blood, but reassured to see I still have antibodies ten months later.