Why are all the Covid conspiracy theory’s coming true?

[sunnnysideup]

Honest question?

I did a lot of different research i had a lockdown baby so had time on my hands... as i said above some made sense some didnt. I dont call my self a conspiracy theorist i look at it as it kept me busy kept my mind work if things happen im prepared if it dont well i was kept switched on when i was locked away for months on end

[quote Staryflight445]@aboverubies7 come on then, enlighten us with what conspiracy’s are becoming reality?

Why don’t you agree with vaccine passports? Do you think there’s an infinite amount of icu beds available for people who aren’t vaccinated?
Do you think it’s ok that the unvaccinated are causing hospitals to not be functional atm? Cancer patients waiting for treatment and diagnosis, surgery’s being cancelled.

Something has to be done somewhere.[/quote]
that's a lazy, unsubstantiated lie - the unvaccinated are not burdening hospitals and they are certainly not to blame for the backlog of patients. Don't be deceived.

All they have to do is put a few actors on TV, ostensibly unvaxxed, telling people to get jabbed with their last dying breath and people like you pounce at the opportunity to parrot these spoonfed narratives, designed to sow fear

FACT: This vaccine cannot stop you from contracting or transmitting the virus or it's "variants".

So what prophylactic protections does it offer? What use is it, when you can still develop symptoms and end up in hospital?

FACT: Israel has the world's highest vax uptake but the amount of cases climb every day. Why?

Numerous reports came out only last month saying infection rates are rising amongst double-jabbed individuals. When they roll out the triple-jab, the monthly booster shots, the daily COVID pill.. should we direct our venom at the single/double jabbed?
When does it stop?!

You ask what theories are coming to fruition? Great question.

"Vaccines will be imposed" - Many state governments are flirting with this idea right now and countries like France and Australia are already enforcing vax passports

"No vaccine = No job" - This month, Biden announced sweeping vax
mandates for 2 million federal employees and coaxed U.S corporations to follow suit, it's only a matter of time before U.S Department of Labour mandates vaccinations for the national workforce.
All the UK SAGE has to do is cobble together some numbers to pressure Boris to do the same.

"Suppression of alternative treatment/therapeutics" - Any alternative remedy to COV!D is being smeared. They've manipulated data to discredit any medication that can treat the virus and quietly retract their slander months later.

"Mass Censorship" - You turn on the news, you're only getting one side of the story. Doctors, physicians, nurses that publicly voice their concerns about the lack of research are being censored, de-platformed and sacked. Those that refuse to regurgitate the pharmaceutical industry's sanctioned narrative are assigned every label in the book: "conspiracy theorist" "tinfoil hat" "fascist" (ironically)

And anybody who discusses the potential side effects of the COV!D vaccines, gets blackballed, shamed, shadowbanned and suspended on social media. You're not allowed to dissent. And as a result, people are now terrified to speak about adverse reactions in fear of being bullied and persecuted by the tyrannical vaccine peddler mob

None of this should sit well with anyone.
Open your eyes.
Are you going to swallow the garbage the shovel down your throat or critically think, challenge and resist? Your choice.

So which ones have come true then.?

@sunnnysideup

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great replies.

Covid passports, vaccines for children, lockdowns not ending, virus from wuhan lab, no freedoms even when you do take the vaccine, deaths from healthy people having the Covid vaccine, vaccines altering DNA (Mrna does enter dna) lockdown again this winter.... I could go on actually. It’s funny until you really look at it.

None of those are conspiracy theories though

I've had a horrifying reaction to the vaccine. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's real and debilitating.

Today 19:41 derxa

I've had a horrifying reaction to the vaccine. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's real and debilitating.“

That’s horrible for you. Thankfully, rare.

@MrsSkylerWhite

Today 19:41 derxa

I've had a horrifying reaction to the vaccine. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's real and debilitating.“

That’s horrible for you. Thankfully, rare.

Thanks MrsSkyler Yes rare I think but I know someone with the exact same. I've reported it via Yellow Card Scheme (?)

I’ve also been very sick since being vaccinated.

I’m starting to research it now (it’s too late) and am horrified by what I’ve been lied and tricked into doing to my body.

I’m not sure what the conspiracies are or were but any doubters will be realised to be right soon, I reckon.

@pontypridd please could you point me in the direction of your research? I'm experiencing prolonged nausea and fatigue after both doses of Pfizer and only tonight read the reports on periods and vaccines having panicked about being pregnant in recent weeks. I'd be very grateful for your help as I'm very worried about how long I've been feeling like this. I was a really fit, healthy young mum until I had my vaccine - I didn't even THINK of the side effects, stupidly just went along with it.

I’ll message you @gloriousgordons

@pontypridd

I’ve also been very sick since being vaccinated.

I’m starting to research it now (it’s too late) and am horrified by what I’ve been lied and tricked into doing to my body.

I’m not sure what the conspiracies are or were but any doubters will be realised to be right soon, I reckon.

@pontypridd

What are you horrified by?

I've seen your other posts about your fears of the vaccines "hijacking DNA", not having an "expiration date" and causing autoimmune diseases. There isn't truth in any of this, which I posted on in the other thread. Going down a rabbit hole of fearmongering anti-vax stuff isn't going to do your health any good.

Please look to reputable sources for info about the vaccines and report your side effects to the yellow card scheme.

[quote gloriousgordons]@pontypridd please could you point me in the direction of your research? I'm experiencing prolonged nausea and fatigue after both doses of Pfizer and only tonight read the reports on periods and vaccines having panicked about being pregnant in recent weeks. I'd be very grateful for your help as I'm very worried about how long I've been feeling like this. I was a really fit, healthy young mum until I had my vaccine - I didn't even THINK of the side effects, stupidly just went along with it. [/quote]
Please chat your midwife/GP if you're having nausea and fatigue whilst pregnant. Could be a reaction to the vaccine, could be something to do with your pregnancy that needs looking at or treatment.

There's a lot of misinformation on the internet which isn't helpful to anyone worried after being vaccinated.

"Suppression of alternative treatment/therapeutics" - Any alternative remedy to COV!D is being smeared. They've manipulated data to discredit any medication that can treat the virus and quietly retract their slander months later.

This isn't the case @aboverubies7

RCTs were set up as soon as humanely possible to identify existing drugs that can be repurposed to treat COVID. That's how dexamethasone and other drugs were identified to be effective in treating COVID.

I'm guessing you're referring to the bizarre situation of HCQ and ivermectin being pushed as treatments for COVID by the anti-vax groups despite no robust evidence that they are effective. HCQ has been proven to be ineffective, and there is currently no robust evidence for ivermectin. There are trials ongoing however, so not sure how you can complain it's being blocked or "smeared".

Also the vaccines don't alter your DNA

From the British Heart Foundation website:

"Can the vaccine change your DNA?
No. None of the vaccines that have been approved can change or edit your DNA.

The Pfizer BioNTech and the Moderna vaccines use mRNA. In our cells, mRNAs act as instructions to make all the different protein molecules which are essential for our cells and organs to work. In the case of these vaccines, they use mRNA to instruct your body to build the Covid-19’s spike protein. Your body then produces an immune response by creating antibodies to fight the virus protein. This makes your immune system ready to fight the real virus if it enters your body.

DNA is not the same as mRNA. Your DNA is in the middle of the cell (in the nucleus), whereas the mRNA vaccines do their work in the part of the cell outside of the nucleus. The mRNA does not enter the cell’s nucleus, so it cannot alter your DNA.

The Oxford/ AstraZeneca vaccine doesn’t use mRNA - instead it uses a weakened version of adenovirus, delivering genetic instructions to your cells. While adenovirus vaccines do use genetic codes to produce a spike protein in the body, this code is not incorporated into your genetic material. The virus isn’t replicated within your body, and it cannot alter or edit your DNA.

After the genetic instructions in mRNA and adenovirus vaccines have been delivered to your cells, they are broken down by your cells and disappear from your body within a few days."

@hopeishere

Kids getting jabbed is hardly a conspiracy though. It's like a natural progression in a vaccine programme.

But if lots of people label such things and people saying such things as conspiracy theories, is it then or has become, by definition, a conspiracy theory?

@ollyollyoxenfree thanks for replying, I have made an appointment with my GP for later this week.
My post was poorly worded, I panicked that I might be pregnant due to no periods/pregnancy symptoms despite negative tests. I'm especially nervous as I had an ectopic before my second DC and now in a position where I don't want any more children, I like to track my cycles closely which I can't do at the moment as they've gone so crackers.

My cleaner believes the government wants to jab her to put a tracker in her body. She only goes to the shops, school and me so not sure why she thinks the government would want to track her! They could track her phone I guess if they wanted to which would give the same data.

@Mummapenguin20

Normal jabs, have been around years ive grown into adult hood had children been fine as such therefore my children have them. The covid vax has not been around years nobody knows the long term effects and the children wont be having that the scientists said it was not nessasery chris witty ordered it. The long term effects of covid? Or is it the long term effects of us being in lockdown breaking down our immune systems. Im not a scientist i dont know. But what i do know is a family member is a nurse on a covid ward and advised me its best to wait. My guts telling me to wait see how things go and that i will follow. It was by no means a snap decision. Its been batted around long and hard like i said earlier we are all diffrent and entittled to our own views this makes the world work

Agreed.

There have been several if not many examples of vaccines with an intially slow uptake[use google for those who dont believe me].

And some countries and nationalities are even more hesitant than the UK, for their own historical reasons. Japan for instance is only at 30% I think. The Japanese, because of several previous national scandals around this issue, are very hesitant.

Perfectly normal behaviour for many people worldwide, to be hesitant.

@ittakes2

My cleaner believes the government wants to jab her to put a tracker in her body. She only goes to the shops, school and me so not sure why she thinks the government would want to track her! They could track her phone I guess if they wanted to which would give the same data.

You would have no idea what she gets up to in her own time.

Plus, if you read up more about the Ch ina social credit system, or even Ch ina just in general, [all of which has been talked about multiple times on MN], you will then understand a little better, her way of thinking. Hopefully.

‘ None of this should sit well with anyone.
Open your eyes.
Are you going to swallow the garbage the shovel down your throat or critically think, challenge and resist? Your choice.’

@aboverubies7 nothing you have written comes from a person who can critically think.
You haven’t even bothered to try and learn/understand how vaccines have always worked.

Too busy looking/grasping onto anything that can (very wrongly, because of wrong info) make it look like you’ve caught someone out.

Nobody professionally is disputing that vaccines don’t hold a small risk of side effects, this has always been the case.
Have you seen the registry of noted side affects for the COVID jabs?
It’s laughable, people have even linked losing their pet as a cause of having their jab.

‘ that's a lazy, unsubstantiated lie - the unvaccinated are not burdening hospitals and they are certainly not to blame for the backlog of patients. Don't be deceived.

All they have to do is put a few actors on TV, ostensibly unvaxxed, telling people to get jabbed with their last dying breath and people like you pounce at the opportunity to parrot these spoonfed narratives, designed to sow fear’
^^
Genuinely really concerned about anyone who believes this.

@ollyollyoxenfree

"Suppression of alternative treatment/therapeutics" - Any alternative remedy to COV!D is being smeared. They've manipulated data to discredit any medication that can treat the virus and quietly retract their slander months later.

This isn't the case @aboverubies7

RCTs were set up as soon as humanely possible to identify existing drugs that can be repurposed to treat COVID. That's how dexamethasone and other drugs were identified to be effective in treating COVID.

I'm guessing you're referring to the bizarre situation of HCQ and ivermectin being pushed as treatments for COVID by the anti-vax groups despite no robust evidence that they are effective. HCQ has been proven to be ineffective, and there is currently no robust evidence for ivermectin. There are trials ongoing however, so not sure how you can complain it's being blocked or "smeared".

They advised that Dexamethasone was to be used in conjunction with ventilators for patients in critical condition, experiencing severe symptoms. The ventilators that ravaged patient's lungs and did immense harm.

This anti-inflammatory drug doesn't benefit those with mild non-severe symptoms

Besides, I am referring to prophylactics - any alternative to the vaccine is rubbished.

It's easy to chalk everything down to "anti-vax groups", a very lazy cop-out.

They tried to disprove the efficacy of HCQ and Ivermectin by testing them without pairing it with Zinc/Vitamin D in the trials. As they are both zinc ionophores, that help zinc enter the cells, that is the best way to administer the treatment and it has produced tremendous results so far.

But they sure duped a lot of people by distorting the facts and purposely omitting this from the trials.

This experimental vaccine lacks robust evidence, it is egregiously under researched in human subjects but that hasn't stopped them! And if anything goes wrong, you cannot sue! /s

Ivermectin is literally being branded the horse drug and they rebuked HCQ as soon as Trump mentioned it. Let's be frank, they are definitely not trying to instil confidence about these drugs

The studies are indeed underway but since the going rate is a dollar per dose, they're not going to promote it as much as they do the vax! Anything for their bottom line.

c19early.com/

@Staryflight445 the irony isn't lost on me - ridiculing genuine concerns whilst trying to link them to the anomaly of the one nutcase who linked a side effect to their pet dying.

My life is significantly impacted. Either by the vaccine or coincidentally at the same time my periods ceased and I developed a nausea which impacts every single day of my life.

@ollyollyoxenfree

"Suppression of alternative treatment/therapeutics" - Any alternative remedy to COV!D is being smeared. They've manipulated data to discredit any medication that can treat the virus and quietly retract their slander months later.

This isn't the case @aboverubies7

RCTs were set up as soon as humanely possible to identify existing drugs that can be repurposed to treat COVID. That's how dexamethasone and other drugs were identified to be effective in treating COVID.

I'm guessing you're referring to the bizarre situation of HCQ and ivermectin being pushed as treatments for COVID by the anti-vax groups despite no robust evidence that they are effective. HCQ has been proven to be ineffective, and there is currently no robust evidence for ivermectin. There are trials ongoing however, so not sure how you can complain it's being blocked or "smeared".

So you claim "there is currently no robust evidence for ivermectin". i think you're talking rubbish (yet again).

Here you go:

ivmmeta.com/

That's a meta-analysis of 64 different studies - 56 of which showed a positive effect from ivermectin. By the way, the link is just the meta-analysis, but will allow you to find each of the individual studies.

Oh, and just to be clear, you said there is "no robust evidence for ivermectin". You didn't say "there are no studies I like which show robust evidence for ivermectin". You said "no robust evidence for ivermectin". So for your assertion to be true, you will need to disprove each and every one of these 56 studies which showed a positive benefit. Please be my guest to go ahead ant try...

I will also draw your attention to tweet's by the FDA referring to Ivermectin as horse dewormer - which conveniently neglects to mention that it is also used widely in human medicine. (Those interested in its uses in humans might wish to look at: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/). So your implication that Ivermectin is not being "smeared" is also complete horses**t. (Did you see what I did there?)