So St Ives now had case rate of 800 plus per 100000, surely this is a mistake?

[Tryingtryingandtrying]

I thought everyone was testing, quarantined, tested again, vaccinating and following social distancing? Are these local people who have tested positive now whilst everyone else has gone back off in their jets? How could this have been allowed to happen. I know I shouldn't be, but I am really shocked to see such a huge increase so soon after all the important meetings.

Don't forget the set up of G7 was well before the actual event, well before it, such as the drafting in of the additional 5000 police, the road closures teams, the security fencing teams etc so its the whole thing, not the actual visits from the G7 themselves. The first hotel to close in St Ives was because of part of the security team testing positive.

Oh FFS Princess, you are certainly named correctly. YOU jumped on my post not the other way round. 🙄😂

We are up in Cumbria, same happening here slowly, obviously lots and lots of visitors over half term and just generally. Two/three weeks ago we had 3 cases in our area.

@Poorlykitten

We are up in Cumbria, same happening here slowly, obviously lots and lots of visitors over half term and just generally. Two/three weeks ago we had 3 cases in our area.

More schools with year groups isolating this week in Cumbria

@PrincessNutNuts

The more contacts, the more cases, the more hospitalisations.

Crowded places just give everyone there a lot of contacts in a short space of time.

That's why sending people back to work in office blocks is a bad idea. How many people would that put in the same narrow stairwell between 8 and 9 five days a week?

You get so excited by the prospect of this don’t you?!

@Thewiseoneincognito

This spike won’t have been helped by the G7 but it was the chaos from half term that has sprung this onto the poor locals. I was there end of May, it was heaving, the streets are very narrow and social distancing was impossible, the beaches packed.

The problem is going to get worse simply because many cafes and restaurants are now closed due to cases and the ones still open are swamped with guests so will eventually pick up cases too.

It’s the older locals I feel sorry for, those who struggle in summer as it is without the added fear of a bigger influx of tourists possibly bringing infections with them.

Why isn't it the same in other busy seaside resorts?

That's a very odd interpretation of me saying something is a bad idea @DobbyTheHouseElk.

Whatever Princess you love this board. You know the way it works

I think it's sheer numbers @ancientgran.

No other resorts have seen these prolonged huge numbers yet.

@DobbyTheHouseElk

Whatever Princess you love this board. You know the way it works

Are you sure you're not mixing me up with someone else?

No, defo you Princess

@DobbyTheHouseElk

No, defo you Princess

Ok, well whatever reaction I seem to have triggered in you, I don't understand what you're on about.

I think PrincessNuts is only one talking sense.

I and i suspect her, hate these restrictions but running away from reality isn't going to magic them away.

The G7 was a super spreader event, in a county with huge numbers only vaccinated once and a terrible health service.

The people coming here on hols, will now be in contact with many infected folk, bring CV back to their own localities, bare in mind there is no local surge testing atm, so the numbers positive are a huge underestimate.

I'm in Cornwall, in a tourist town, in a tourist focussed business.

Rates per 100,000 in certain areas have increased sharply obviously, but absolute numbers are not high. People are concerned, but not neurotically so. The main worry is having to close because of a "contact" and hand back £1000s of pounds of cancelled bookings.

However, I'm sure someone who is not in Cornwall, in a tourist town, working in a tourist focussed business and who is an expert in everything covid related will be along to tell me I am wrong and selfish though

And yes, obviously it was the G7. People are angry about this.

Tourists are not being blamed.

Thinking it through just now I can see holidays in the UK being quite high risk for spreading Covid. Obviously there’s the travel factor and bringing it from one place to another. But also there’s going to be the decisions that people make in travelling whilst possibly symptomatic. I think with so many people desperate for a break there may be some quite risky behaviour. Imagine if you’d paid a lot of money to go to a cottage in Cornwall and the day before your child starts coughing. There’s no plane to get on so no gateway where you have to provide a negative test. I think if the choice was a) get a test and potentially not go on the holiday if positive (quite possibly losing all the money) or b) just ignore it and go anyway then an awful lot of people will go with b).

That’s just an observation, btw, I’m not advocating for holidays to be banned! I have no strong feelings either way and go see both sides.

@Kacha30

Is the g7 fully to blame? Only because cases were rising before the g7. Cornwall was insanely busy during half term prior to the g7. In Cornwall many of the Touristy areas have increased cases particularly amongst those who work in hospitality.

I live in Cornwall have done my whole life. I never seen it as busy as May/June half term before! Usually it quietens down a little between half term and the summer holidays but it's so busy out there now. It's so unfair that locals are paying the price. It's not the tourists fault it's the holiday parks and tourists destinations who aren't even working at less capacity as they did last year. I know they want to make money after the poop year we've had but it's madness out there. I am very anxious about it.

Cornwall have been treated appallingly. There should have been restrictions placed on visitors here. Only those with a negative test allowed in.

Instead it's been treated as the UK's playground because Benidorm has been shut off. Not fair.

sandsnake I agree with that, I know of a couple of families who did that exact same thing last year.

I have spent a few lovely minutes looking at webcams at a number of places including St Ives today and none of the places looked packed or full, normal busy but a lot less than August busy. Porthmeor looked empty.

www.aspects-holidays.co.uk/st-ives-webcam

My nieces camped for the summit with Extinction Rebellion related groups of friends, just outside St Ives and then near Gwithian Towans. They have all tested positive on their return after their week of creative protest.
All are early twenties and were unvaccinated. They thought that were very careful but the protests brought students and activists from all over the U.K. together, it was inevitable. They made their mark in more ways than one it would seem.

@RubyViolet

My nieces camped for the summit with Extinction Rebellion related groups of friends, just outside St Ives and then near Gwithian Towans. They have all tested positive on their return after their week of creative protest. All are early twenties and were unvaccinated. They thought that were very careful but the protests brought students and activists from all over the U.K. together, it was inevitable. They made their mark in more ways than one it would seem.

Err so delegates and their staff/media/security from all around the UK, India, the USA, Canada, Japan and Europe didn't infect your niece, it was fellow activists.... right.

@scully29

Don't forget the set up of G7 was well before the actual event, well before it, such as the drafting in of the additional 5000 police, the road closures teams, the security fencing teams etc so its the whole thing, not the actual visits from the G7 themselves. The first hotel to close in St Ives was because of part of the security team testing positive.

Exactly.

@frumpety it’s 8 pm on a weekday. 🧐

Today on Spotlight the leader of Cornwall council is calling for surge testing, and the rate per 100,000 is 131 and still rising rapidly.