So St Ives now had case rate of 800 plus per 100000, surely this is a mistake?

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I thought everyone was testing, quarantined, tested again, vaccinating and following social distancing? Are these local people who have tested positive now whilst everyone else has gone back off in their jets? How could this have been allowed to happen. I know I shouldn't be, but I am really shocked to see such a huge increase so soon after all the important meetings.

@newnortherner111

There was no need to hold the G7 summit in person. Joe Biden and Emmanuel Macron did not need to come all this way to tell Boris Johnson he is absolutely useless.

Though the spread no doubt came from all the police who had to travel there to protect the world leaders.

I'd have thought the huge number of tourists travelling in and out of the county over half term probably has a bigger impact on CV. They will have been travelling without testing and many won't have been fully vaccinated (due to age, young families, children) .

Friends went to Cornwall during half term and said it was packed solid. Dh's colleague is there now and, even in term time, it's packed solid with tourists.

Whilst I have many issues with regards to politicians and some of the activities which took place during the G7, at least the attendees will have been mostly fully vaccinated and from what I read, tested beforehand too.

Cornwall is packed solid. But adding to a small town that is packed solid this time of year and the surrounding areas 5000 police, all the security teams, all the people to set up everything etc etc, all the people out for the protests etc, you can see why things of gone wild. It was a super spreader event on top of the expected crowds from holidaying and was just too much.

@jasjas1973

The areas effected are St Ives Falmouth, where the G7 were.

Torbay, WSM also rammed, no dramatic increase.

10s 0f 1000s attended the G7, police delegates, media etc etc no testing no quarantining.

Cornwall is one health trust, with one relatively small hospital, with many local businesses closed as staff of sick/isolating.

Cheers Boris :(

Very true, I went into Torquay to pick GS up and the traffic was worse than a normal August Bank Holiday. Number have gone up but way way less than St Ives or Falmouth. I think Torbay is around 20/100000

@Abraxan this issue with G7 wasn't the politicians , it was the massive numbers required for security and policing , the amount of media that has followed , contractors for things such as setting up the press base, additional staffing needed for hospitality, plus protestors .

Not all tourists are families, particularly outside of school holidays and are not really 'mixing' with others, eg staying in self catering accommodation , wearing masks as required in shops . Sitting only with their immediate family at restaurant tables, and outdoors where possible . Also many have now been vaccinated .

The only other option is to do what NZ have done and close down borders but massively too late for that. It’s going to rip through the U.K. and then there will be another variant before you know it…same again. ‘A lesson is repeated until learned’

I don't know much about the G7, but can anyone tell me, with all those numbers of people, why it was held in Cornwall and not a major city like London?

@Abraxan Pre the meeting, a female Cornwall policewoman did an interview for Spotlight local TV, she said of the 6000 police attending, few had been tested or vaccinated, it wasn't seen as a priority.

Police housed on a cruiser, tested positive, these police were mixing with members of the public in a way tourists do not.

As i said, other S/W indeed national tourist spots have not seen these delta variant increases.

But perhaps more importantly, is the absolute and total lack of measures to mitigate this i.e surge testing pop up vaccination centres.

I hope us voters in Cornwall remember this at the next GE.

Population of St Ives approx. 12500.

Case rate of 920/100000 so number of cases is about 115.

[quote newnortherner111]@PracticingPerson so Cornwall joins the list of people betrayed by the Prime Minister, including those in fishing, farmers, the people of Northern Ireland, two wives and Jennifer Arcuri and the other women he has had extra-marital affairs with.[/quote]
If only Cornwall hadn't voted for the Tories AND Brexit eh?

Barefoot Hippie, I assume it was for the luxury seaside holidaying, its a beautiful spot. No offence London.

@BarefootHippieChick

I don't know much about the G7, but can anyone tell me, with all those numbers of people, why it was held in Cornwall and not a major city like London?

Best ask Johnson, I assume it was his hare-brained idea.

@BarefootHippieChick

I don't know much about the G7, but can anyone tell me, with all those numbers of people, why it was held in Cornwall and not a major city like London?

Cornwall's low covid numbers might have been a factor...

@Poorlykitten

I’m sorry Princess but we can’t go in and out of lockdowns for ever, it’s just not feasible.

Who said anything about lockdown?

The people I was replying to initially! 🙄

Thanks for your replies, you're probably all right...Londoners are probably breathing a sigh of relief

@BarefootHippieChick

Thanks for your replies, you're probably all right...Londoners are probably breathing a sigh of relief

Don't worry, you want miss out, Johnson is allowing 1000s of UEFA officials into London.

Don't worry, you want miss out, Johnson is allowing 1000s of UEFA officials into London.

I'm not in London but I'm sure it won't be long before cases seriously shoot up here in the Midlands, they're slowly rising already. And the UEFA thing is absolutely ridiculous, but yeah, football 🙄🙄

St Ives currently has third highest case rates in the country, Falmouth has the fourth (or it might be the other way round, I can't remember).

Yes, it was busy at half term and still is, but there are plenty of other seaside towns (in Cornwall and elsewhere) that were busy too and aren't seeing these kind of case rates. Falmouth has a large student population (who tend to be unvaccinated because of their age), but so do a great many other communities. The one thing Falmouth and St Ives have got in common with each other and with nowhere else is the G7. I'm not suggesting it is solely responsible for the exponential increase we've seen, but it's disingenuous and undermines public trust to insist that it can't have anything to do with it as the government and local public health officials are doing.

@Poorlykitten

The people I was replying to initially! 🙄

Then tell them, not me.

So no point whatsoever, posters trying to say it wasnt to do with the G7.

oops, forgot this part
St Ives currently has third highest case rates in the country, Falmouth has the fourth (or it might be the other way round, I can't remember)

Joe Biden and Emmanuel Macron did not need to come all this way to tell Boris Johnson he is absolutely useless.
I want this on a teeshirt. And a hat. And a teatowel. And a cake. And a banner and a poster and flying behind a plane.

This spike won’t have been helped by the G7 but it was the chaos from half term that has sprung this onto the poor locals. I was there end of May, it was heaving, the streets are very narrow and social distancing was impossible, the beaches packed.

The problem is going to get worse simply because many cafes and restaurants are now closed due to cases and the ones still open are swamped with guests so will eventually pick up cases too.

It’s the older locals I feel sorry for, those who struggle in summer as it is without the added fear of a bigger influx of tourists possibly bringing infections with them.

I think the only thing that can be said with any degree of certainty is that large numbers of people in small towns like St Ives in a pandemic is bad news whatever the reason they are there. The spike itself began to climb to early for it to be a purely G7 thing, and I think it will be quite complicated to unpick any effect G7 did have.

The good news is that the peak seems to be passing. St Ives is still purple but 7 day case numbers are easing now. They should fall over the next week or so to something less horrific. Fingers crossed!

The more contacts, the more cases, the more hospitalisations.

Crowded places just give everyone there a lot of contacts in a short space of time.

That's why sending people back to work in office blocks is a bad idea. How many people would that put in the same narrow stairwell between 8 and 9 five days a week?