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So St Ives now had case rate of 800 plus per 100000, surely this is a mistake?

132 replies

Tryingtryingandtrying · 20/06/2021 15:45

I thought everyone was testing, quarantined, tested again, vaccinating and following social distancing? Are these local people who have tested positive now whilst everyone else has gone back off in their jets? How could this have been allowed to happen. I know I shouldn't be, but I am really shocked to see such a huge increase so soon after all the important meetings.

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AliceLivesHere · 20/06/2021 22:48

@Parthena

I live in a tourist town. We are 8/100000
I imagine there are lots of tourist towns much lower.

The huge amount of people involved in the G7, private security to protect world leaders, chefs, admin, general police I hear brought in from around the country and stuck on a cruise ship in the harbour all allowed to go into the towns, reporters, tv crews, and all the other paraphernalia and of course the protestors.

Tryingtryingandtrying · 20/06/2021 23:00

It is literally st Ives that is so very high. Literally the very town the G7 party happened in. Its not high in other very popular tourist towns.

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Cowbells · 20/06/2021 23:07

@ShockOche

“Cornwall is packed with tourists”

It was packed with tourists last year= no spike

The spikes are in St Ives, Falmouth and Newquay - all areas where the G7 was and not in Padstow, Penzance, Looe where the G7 was not.

Plus the places with spikes had no tourists over the period, precisely because of the G7…

I was going to say this. Last year Cornwall was rammed with tourists. No spike. G7... spike.
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/06/2021 07:33

@NannyAndJohn

It's the fucking tourists, taking Delta to previously low-incidence areas.

If the government don't put the kibosh on holidays then we'll really be in the shitter come September.

Do you not think G7 just might have had something to do with it? And have you thought that maybe people are going because they've booked a holiday and will lose money if they don't?

You really want to stop everything that gives people any enjoyment don't you? I intend to be a 'fucking tourist' in September and I can't wait.

winniesanderson · 21/06/2021 07:42

People had been travelling into Cornwall for months to prepare for the G7. A bunch of electricians were staying at a hotel in my town 15 minutes away from St Ives back in early May. I don't know why people keep saying it can't be due to the G7, of course something like that takes months to prepare. Why they couldn't have done it online like everyone else has managed to over the last year or so I don't know.

And it may not be the case but it does feel like tourism is really on the up at the moment. Lots of increased traffic on the roads over the last few months. Especially caravans and cars loaded up. Half term was really busy. But it's not just been over the half term. Lots of people are wanting a holiday, and Cornwall is popular at the best of times. I expect lots of Cornish people have been away too.

Poorlykitten · 21/06/2021 07:48

Does it matter that the numbers are so high if the deaths are so low? We can’t eradicate this virus, we need to live with it sadly.

Notonthestairs · 21/06/2021 08:08

The numbers matter because it means children miss school and people miss work.

PracticingPerson · 21/06/2021 08:12

@Poorlykitten

Does it matter that the numbers are so high if the deaths are so low? We can’t eradicate this virus, we need to live with it sadly.
Yes, because 1 in 10 get long covid, and some are unable to work.

Death is not the only negative outcome.

Would you be happy to be in ICU, then off work for a year?

Poorlykitten · 21/06/2021 08:20

@PracticingPerson numbers in hospitals are very low. 2 up here. We can’t go on like this.

jasjas1973 · 21/06/2021 08:26

The areas effected are St Ives Falmouth, where the G7 were.

Torbay, WSM also rammed, no dramatic increase.

10s 0f 1000s attended the G7, police delegates, media etc etc no testing no quarantining.

Cornwall is one health trust, with one relatively small hospital, with many local businesses closed as staff of sick/isolating.

Cheers Boris :(

frumpety · 21/06/2021 09:01

I was there last August and it was very busy during the day, don't remember hearing about any massive surge in cases following that Summer's influx ?
So is it because of the new varient/G7 or a mix of both ? Or are people behaving differently now ? Seen a couple of post's on FB about visitors being abusive to staff about continued restrictions which is awful.

HSHorror · 21/06/2021 09:17

Are the rates higher than last summer? And increasing
So slightly more.brought it down. Plus all kids at school vs just yr r and 1.I

lightand · 21/06/2021 09:19

@PracticingPerson
Are you happy for the economy to go to rack and ruin?
I reckon one more year like the last, and the UK will be in dire financial trouble.
Who is going to pay for hospitals, teachers, police, fire, rubbish collection and a 1000 other things then?

NannyAndJohn · 21/06/2021 09:43

@Poorlykitten

Does it matter that the numbers are so high if the deaths are so low? We can’t eradicate this virus, we need to live with it sadly.
Variants and Long Covid.
BarefootHippieChick · 21/06/2021 09:51

I don't envy anyone living in a tourist town, every single one has been booked up for months because no one wants to risk going abroad with all the hassle with quarantining, testing etc. I have a friend living in Devon and he said May half term was the worst he's ever seen. Come summer holidays it will be bedlam.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 21/06/2021 10:02

May half term was hideous. I’ve always lived in tourists towns and am genuinely not bothered by them mostly, but last HT was something else.

scully29 · 21/06/2021 10:16

Its really devastating, I dont think ive ever seen the purple in Cornwall and its literally St Ives. We escaped it last year as everyone was so careful but this year its a different story, theres no distancing and everyone seems to have forgotten covid and everywhere is extremely busy. G7 was an enormous amount of people brought in to set up everything. Its such a shame that we did so well for so long and then this has all happened, its run right through Cornwall now.

Poorlykitten · 21/06/2021 10:21

I understand about long covid, it’s a worry but realistically most viruses come with the potential for post viral problems and it sometimes happens. We can’t live going in and out of lockdowns, we have vaccinations now and that provides a certain immunity ( in most cases). I’m sorry but the potential for new variants is ongoing, unless we take the full NZ approach we will have to accept that life must go on.

Kacha30 · 21/06/2021 10:23

@scully29

Its really devastating, I dont think ive ever seen the purple in Cornwall and its literally St Ives. We escaped it last year as everyone was so careful but this year its a different story, theres no distancing and everyone seems to have forgotten covid and everywhere is extremely busy. G7 was an enormous amount of people brought in to set up everything. Its such a shame that we did so well for so long and then this has all happened, its run right through Cornwall now.
Parts of Cornwall were purple after Christmas before the lockdown! Newquay was hit bad then and again now. Can't remember the others that were purple . But yes I agree - devastating. This time round it's been a massive jump. From barely any cases to a massive and sudden increase! Scary!!
Chill08 · 21/06/2021 10:34

I live in cornwall. Currently have my dds self isolating after positive cases in both classes. We've been vlucky and this is the first time we have had to self isolate. Cases have rocketed in the last couple of weeks. Newquay is really suffering at the min as not enough staff gone back to hospitality and lots self isolating businesses are having to close 😌

PrincessNutNuts · 21/06/2021 12:01

@Poorlykitten

Does it matter that the numbers are so high if the deaths are so low? We can’t eradicate this virus, we need to live with it sadly.
More cases = more problems.

(In hospitals, schools and workplaces. And for the future with long covid and the new brain damage thing. )

Cases DO matter

The U.K. exported alpha to the world and set off the global second wave. The U.K. allowing high cases increases the likelihood of the U.K. being the site of the next "even worse" variant and giving the world another wave to contend with.

Any variant that emerges and becomes dominant here now is likely to have a transmission advantage and a significant degree of vaccine evasion. Even more than Delta

Allowing high cases is extremely irresponsible and will have a slew of negative consequences.

Poorlykitten · 21/06/2021 12:07

I’m sorry Princess but we can’t go in and out of lockdowns for ever, it’s just not feasible.

NannyAndJohn · 21/06/2021 12:13

@Poorlykitten

I’m sorry Princess but we can’t go in and out of lockdowns for ever, it’s just not feasible.
There wouldn't be any need for another lockdown if the government had decided to reintroduce low-level restrictions once Delta took hold.

But Johnson just let it rip.

scully29 · 21/06/2021 12:15

But we could at the very least, have our international meetings on zoom rather than in a small town which is just not set up for events so requires a huge amount of people to help set it all up and police it.

ancientgran · 21/06/2021 12:20

@Kacha30

Is the g7 fully to blame? Only because cases were rising before the g7. Cornwall was insanely busy during half term prior to the g7. In Cornwall many of the Touristy areas have increased cases particularly amongst those who work in hospitality.

I live in Cornwall have done my whole life. I never seen it as busy as May/June half term before! Usually it quietens down a little between half term and the summer holidays but it's so busy out there now. It's so unfair that locals are paying the price. It's not the tourists fault it's the holiday parks and tourists destinations who aren't even working at less capacity as they did last year. I know they want to make money after the poop year we've had but it's madness out there. I am very anxious about it.

I'm in Devon. I think the tourist areas are similarly packed and yes numbers have risen but nowhere near the way they have risen in Cornwall so yes I do think G7 is to blame, maybe not 100% down to it but very high proportion.
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