So St Ives now had case rate of 800 plus per 100000, surely this is a mistake?

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I thought everyone was testing, quarantined, tested again, vaccinating and following social distancing? Are these local people who have tested positive now whilst everyone else has gone back off in their jets? How could this have been allowed to happen. I know I shouldn't be, but I am really shocked to see such a huge increase so soon after all the important meetings.

Surely this is going to spread throughout the SW.

My MIL lives in Cornwall and she’s so fed up. It’s all so unnecessary. They could have done this online like everyone else is having to.

Is the g7 fully to blame? Only because cases were rising before the g7. Cornwall was insanely busy during half term prior to the g7

I saw on two different news channels that this is true, it was half term which caused the initial rise and the G7 then added to it.

@PrincessNutNuts

Last summer it was original covid.

This is delta.

I read this as 'last year it was organised covid' and whilst that wasn't what you meant it is kind of true.

Last year people were still cautious and unjabbed, this year it is as if covid has gone away.

It does seem like the government are less organised with each wave we see. Almost like they need an urgent inquiry to learn lessons. Now, or even better, six months ago.

The police officers working at G7 were tested before attending, every day whilst there, and two days after returning home. Positive cases were sent home along with any one who was in their close contact work bubble, so I seriously doubt they are responsible for an increase in cases.

@PrincessNutNuts

Last summer it was original covid.

This is delta.

Yes exactly

police officers?
What about security staff, builders, admin, aircrew[many aircraft flew over Cornwall for weeks], and on and on the list went. Ambulance crew, hotel staff etc etc etc.
Even Weatherspoons moved extra staff down there.

I don’t think we can really attribute the numbers to G7 yet. I’ve been watching them with interest for a while. The rises seem to correlate with half term, and whilst there was G7 activity in St Ives, Falmouth, and Newquay, these are also places you would expect to be some of the first to get an outbreak. St Ives especially; tiny town, jam packed, restaurants with no outdoor space. I think the current numbers actually point to a superspreader type event among the locals, but was probably first brought in by a tourist.

Tourist numbers there must be insane: there is nothing to hire accommodation wise. Every man and his dog has turned every shed or patch of grass into somewhere to stay. Usually at this time of year, before schools break up, you can still pick something reasonable up last minute, and St Ives is bustling but not overly busy. It must be absolutely rammed right now.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat @MiddleParking I'm hoping for an appropriate south west lock down if the stats start to go crazy. My kids, like everyone else's, have missed so much schooling. I want them to finish this term, go on their Dof E walk and hang out at the beach with their mates. A significant number of visitors have had a terrible year but that doesn't mean the ordinary local people here should pay the price for them 'letting their hair' down. And the behaviour this year is crazy. We'd all like the G7 police to hang on.
We've already got ridiculous numbers of public school kids down here on what appears to be an accelerated teen experience with two years worth of vomit and hormones.
Most of us don't work in fishing or tourism and maybe we should be looking at expanding our decent paying industries rather than the exploitative £5 per hour short shifts.

[quote KateOr]**@PinkSparklyPussyCat* @MiddleParking* I'm hoping for an appropriate south west lock down if the stats start to go crazy. My kids, like everyone else's, have missed so much schooling. I want them to finish this term, go on their Dof E walk and hang out at the beach with their mates. A significant number of visitors have had a terrible year but that doesn't mean the ordinary local people here should pay the price for them 'letting their hair' down. And the behaviour this year is crazy. We'd all like the G7 police to hang on.
We've already got ridiculous numbers of public school kids down here on what appears to be an accelerated teen experience with two years worth of vomit and hormones.
Most of us don't work in fishing or tourism and maybe we should be looking at expanding our decent paying industries rather than the exploitative £5 per hour short shifts.[/quote]
Local lockdowns don’t work. If hospitalisation and death stats started to ‘go crazy’ then it might warrant a national lockdown. If they don’t, if they just go up a bit next to rapidly rising case numbers, then no lockdown of any kind is warranted. But to be honest it sounds like what you’re complaining about isn’t covid.

I live in a tourist town. We are 8/100000

@KateOr that's got nothing to do with covid, it's due to people being arseholes and we can't lock down for that!

@Thisusedtobeaniceneighbourhood

I don’t think we can really attribute the numbers to G7 yet. I’ve been watching them with interest for a while. The rises seem to correlate with half term, and whilst there was G7 activity in St Ives, Falmouth, and Newquay, these are also places you would expect to be some of the first to get an outbreak. St Ives especially; tiny town, jam packed, restaurants with no outdoor space. I think the current numbers actually point to a superspreader type event among the locals, but was probably first brought in by a tourist.

Tourist numbers there must be insane: there is nothing to hire accommodation wise. Every man and his dog has turned every shed or patch of grass into somewhere to stay. Usually at this time of year, before schools break up, you can still pick something reasonable up last minute, and St Ives is bustling but not overly busy. It must be absolutely rammed right now.

I agree with this being more likely

[quote PinkSparklyPussyCat]@KateOr that's got nothing to do with covid, it's due to people being arseholes and we can't lock down for that![/quote]
Pity though. If we could get rid of the arseholes, everything else would be much better.

@MiddleParking I think what I'm frothing about is Cornwall hosting lots of people who behave differently here than they would do in their own home communities. With covid and heightened pent up emotions it's tough out there for everyone. If we get an August full of rain and people are disappointed with their over priced, poor value holiday accommodation, emotions will run high. A poor experience will undermine the long term tourism.
Fingers crossed for decent weather, we all need a good summer!

We are absolutely packed with tourists. Tesco shop in my Cornish town this morning was busier than I've seen it in a long while

You know what some tourists do? They don't keep to Covid one ways. They complain loudly about Covid measures impacting their food service and how silly things are - like the street to the harbour is too narrow for the influx of visitors. 🙄

I'm in Fowey. Had a tough week last week due to busy-ness. Spikes in local schools, more children sent home to isolate than ever before.

Everyone I know who could have had the vaccination has. It's not that we are all refusing it.

I also wonder whether immunity is low in the area - precisely because they’ve always had low rates.

@middleparking you put that so much better than me! If only they could vaccinate against it.

Sorry @PinkSparklyPussyCat I credited MiddleParking with your astute assessment.

G7 won't have helped any more than any other massive influx of people, but delta was already in Cornwall in the fortnight up to June 5th. It was first detected in the fortnight before May 22nd.

And half term will have only added to that.

Then the G7 added to it too.

Could some tge rise be related to lower community antibodies. As I remember on the whole Cornwall faired far better than thr rest of the country last year which could mean lower antibody levels? They were one of the only places to be tier one during December because they had lower cases.

I doubt much of it attributed to that. I suspect there are very few places in the U.K. where natural immunity is high enough to make a huge difference. And it would be balanced out slightly by the fact that Cornwall has higher than the national average vaccine coverage

It's the fucking tourists, taking Delta to previously low-incidence areas.

If the government don't put the kibosh on holidays then we'll really be in the shitter come September.

I think that if it was caused predominantly by tourists then there would be a similar increase seen in other tourist areas around the country, which, looking at the most recent Covid map there doesn't seem to be.

We actually stayed in Falmouth the week between the school holiday week and G7 and from the things that we did, I wouldn't have said there was a huge amount of people there, no more than you would expect eg walking down the high street . Covid restrictions meant that restaurants / pubs can't be over-full anyway .

We did notice it appeared busier toward the end of the week with media/journalists coming in to cover the summit, and from what we were told they had booked out a few of the hotels . We were told that there has been people found positive for Covid on the ship which was housing the police / security .

G7 meant lots of private security, police, etc and then all the protestors that invaded Cornwall.
Holidaymakers around the same time.

Mixing. As long as their hospitals can cope