All this has to stop. We can’t live like this!

[SweetsMum3]

We need to learn to live with covid like we do with all other viruses, illnesses and diseases. The elderly and high risk are vaccinated… that was the goal, remember?! Like Hancock said, we will cry freedom when the over 70s are vaccinated!

There is no reason for mass testing when the young and healthy get covid mildly. My child is in tears yet again because she isn’t allowed to go to school for 10 days. A few students in her year group tested positive and all students are forced to be locked in their homes… again.

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

This isn’t fair. This isn’t healthy. This isn’t sane. This is harmful and destructive to children. An entire generation has been betrayed. For what exactly? Over a virus which does not affect them. Over fear. Over people being immensely risk-averse. Over loss of control and people can’t take it.

It is time we live our lives and get back to normal before it’s too late. If our children hold us accountable and never forgive us, I will completely understand. We have not stood-up for them. Instead, we cowered in fear not giving a hoot about the collateral damage all these restrictions have caused. Shame on us.

If the majority supported restrictions we wouldn’t see pressure to lift. Which you can see in many places from lobbying to reactions when small freedoms granted - football crowds recently others before

It’s more the few on mn who prefer it

@MarshaBradyo

Yet no one I know feels like this

Have you had school closure recently? You might find the general mood change

Well some people on here, who are calling for us to 'live with it', say they want to be like America... Which, yes is starting to open up..but has had schools closed for a year...

We can't expect to do the same as other countries, when we're not in the same position as them.

@LucilleTheVampireBat

Children are being protected from being the vector that kills their own loved ones

I think it is disgusting that people find it acceptable to say things like this. To put that burden and that responsibility on children. It's genuinely chilling.

Agreed.

I’m so happy I home educate. It was covid that made it the turning point.

It was still one of the best. Most wonderful. Happiest life changing decisions I’ve made and wish I’d made earlier!

I keep seeing pictures of famous Americans on holiday in Greece, yet I’m still sweating away in PPE at work with no hope of a week in Greece again this year.

@Tealightsandd no the US daily deaths are much higher than ours, there infections rates are lower but they’re not testing the same

MarshaBradyo
If the majority supported restrictions we wouldn’t see pressure to lift.

Not true, even at the beginning of this there were pressure groups for schools to go back to normal with no measures in place at all

@FrippEnos

MarshaBradyo If the majority supported restrictions we wouldn’t see pressure to lift.

Not true, even at the beginning of this there were pressure groups for schools to go back to normal with no measures in place at all

I don’t get what you’re saying in relation to what I have - that there is huge pressure to lift ASAP

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

Where do the people who have died fit into that?

@DontLookEthel

The people have spoken, and the people are saying it's over.

No they haven't, but "some posters on mumsnet are pissed off with the restrictions and want it to be over" doesn't have quite the same ring to it .

No. People are wanting restrictions lifted that affect themselves, but are happy to keep restrictions that affect others. Typical hypocracy.

School closures yes. Because of cases spreading... teachers and other staff off sick (some long term with Long Covid).

Because of the lack of mitigation measures. Wide open borders to spread any and all new strains, including the Delta aka Boris strain. Removing masks in schools. Billions spent on a test and trace system - that isn't working.

So yes. We need to take measures to suppress and contain.

Meanwhile as soon as we get delivery of enough supply, we need to start vaccinating children - priority to those who are CEV and CV. Obviously that still leaves under 12s, but it's a good start. A big move forwards, and hopefully those CEV and CV under 12s will be better protected by the herd immunity of most others around them being vaccinated.

Yougov poll says majority support measure.

@Zzelda

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

Where do the people who have died fit into that?

Unfortunately, there is a point where small numbers of fatalities/long term issues has to be accepted. We don't ban motor vehicles because a couple of thousand people die in road accidents. We don't ban smoking because some people die of lung cancer. We don't ban sugar because some people die of obesity related diseases. People die because of various non lifestyle related cancers. It's a sad fact of life. We can't protect/save everyone. There has to be a balancing point.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Yougov poll says majority support measure.

Yougov probably attracts certain people it’s self selecting so will have bias

You’d have to consider lobbying, behaviour and pressure from general public and businesses to get more realistic picture

If the majority supported restrictions we wouldn’t see pressure to lift.

That pressure is coming, not from everyday members of the public. It's coming from the extreme right wingers of the conservative party and their chums - the likes of Mark Harper and Steve Baker. They lack morals, common sense, and foresight. They've clearly failed to learn the lessons of (very recent) hindsight too.

@MarshaBradyo

Children should always benefit first and atm they’re not.

That’s the main issue for many

You say children should benefit first/be put first as if that is received wisdom....I think life is more complicated than that

@MarshaBradyo

Because you seem worried they’re not including it for some odd reason Practising

Why fret over this stuff. If the risk from
Covid to children is higher than from the vaccine then JCVI will decide accordingly.

The fact that it’s being assessed at all against the tiny risk from the vaccine would suggest that some of these posts re threat to children are over blown.

I have noticed on many threads you seem extremely naive in your support for the government, I guess we just have different views of their performance.

I'm not fretting, I'm just saying those who think their children won't be harmed are, IMO, potentially incorrect as there is new info coming out everyday.

I don't think we have to wait to be told what to think.

We have herd immunity

Eh?

[quote SweetsMum3]@LucilleTheVampireBat

I know. But who really are the selfish ones? Those who don’t put children first are the selfish ones. This is the first time in history when we as adults said to children, “You need to take care of us. You need to sacrifice your mental health, your education, your career, your childhood, your social development, etc etc… to protect us adults!”[/quote]
I agree with every single word of this!

Not just YouGov. It's across the board.

And reader polls from the Express to the Guardian.

It's rubbish but entirely because we tried to carry on as normal and let the Indian variant in. Wish now we had done all Australia now. Then we can live freely within our own country. Pull up the drawbridge and gone for zero covid from the start. We don't need international travel. It was largely closed off during the two wars anyway and we coped ok. And before people say what about visiting family well that is a consequence of going abroad. I had a very lucrative job offer I turn down because I accepted travel between sovereign states can be curtailed by either state. So I have no concerns about restricting travel with no essential reasons.

That pressure is coming, not from everyday members of the public

Of course it is. The football crowds could have stayed home to watch, no there’s a push to be out and together - look at behaviour not self selecting polls. Then also businesses each one will be putting pressure on MPs.

I agree with you.

I feel for you @SweetsMum3 lots of children keep being sent home to isolate.

More and more agree. Growing in numbers for opening up, stopping the isolation of children and others silly measures.

You will get the usual suspects on here though that seem to love this zbd probably don't have much else in their life so happy with the situation

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Yougov poll says majority support measure.

The two-thirds has been consistent. It is the same noisy minority we hear over and over again.