All this has to stop. We can’t live like this!

[SweetsMum3]

We need to learn to live with covid like we do with all other viruses, illnesses and diseases. The elderly and high risk are vaccinated… that was the goal, remember?! Like Hancock said, we will cry freedom when the over 70s are vaccinated!

There is no reason for mass testing when the young and healthy get covid mildly. My child is in tears yet again because she isn’t allowed to go to school for 10 days. A few students in her year group tested positive and all students are forced to be locked in their homes… again.

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

This isn’t fair. This isn’t healthy. This isn’t sane. This is harmful and destructive to children. An entire generation has been betrayed. For what exactly? Over a virus which does not affect them. Over fear. Over people being immensely risk-averse. Over loss of control and people can’t take it.

It is time we live our lives and get back to normal before it’s too late. If our children hold us accountable and never forgive us, I will completely understand. We have not stood-up for them. Instead, we cowered in fear not giving a hoot about the collateral damage all these restrictions have caused. Shame on us.

Most of these people, not giving a shit about others and objecting to restrictions , are the priveleged ones who' ve probably never experienced any hardship in their lives until this pandemic

And of course we give a shit. But about other stuff as well as Covid because Covid isn't the only thing that's killing people.

Is it not clear by now that the difference with covid is because it is a completely new virus with zero immunity and therefore an entire population susceptible at once.

There have been and are such other viruses in the human population, always have been and always will be, hence, a not insignificant percentage of people who had C19 didn't even know they did.

@mrshoho
Don’t forget the government downgraded it on March 19 2020
From. HCID
That told me all I needed to know.

'So I have to say we are protecting children I'm afraid. Even if doing so seems unpalatable.'

We may be protecting some children but we are harming many others

Not sure how to bold etc, but the comment above really struck a chord with me.

Top of my to-do list tomorrow is to call community paeds, as I have done regularly for the past 3 weeks, to ask if my daughter is eligible for a face to face appointment as part of ongoing assessments to see if she has ASD. I can't get past the gatekeeper as she isn't on the list for a face to face appointment, despite the consultant saying she would be prioritised at our phone consultation in March. Have to check with consultant and will let me know. Except they never call back. Because they are so overloaded due to Covid.

But my daughter has been going round in circles with them since August 2017 when she was first referred - we have seen 4 locums, the last of which opened our consultation with the words, I don't know why you're here. After I put in a massive complaint, we were due an appointment in April 2020 which obviously didn't happen. And we are now stuck in a limbo, again chasing appointments and being ignored whilst my daughter steadily deteriorates, with no NHS support (if anything, they are making her worse!), hugely impacted by Lockdown with a subsequent effect on our younger children and our family life. We shouldn't still be in the system, but now there is an excuse for us to be so. My lovely girl was in Y4 when we first sought a referral. She goes into Y9 in September.

I have every sympathy for those whose children have been affected by covid. But I hope you can similarly empathise with those who are being affected by Lockdowns, both directly and indirectly, at key stages of their lives which will have an
impact for years.

@Passthesauce
Empathise?
Absolutely.
I have a condition..haven’t seen a doctor for 2 years regarding it.
We pay for this.
Totally unacceptable

@shewalkslikerihanna 💐. I hope you manage to do so soon.

Most of these people, not giving a shit about others and objecting to restrictions , are the priveleged ones who' ve probably never experienced any hardship in their lives until this pandemic

I'm all for restrictions until the vaccine/virus race is won against whatever variant we need to defeat, but that is not fair. Many people who are railing against the restrictions have little support and have experienced a very different lockdown to someone whose children say, spent lockdown dragging their ponies around the paddock while their parents took Zoom calls in a spare room.

@strangeshapedpotato that post of yours to someone in pain borders on the sociopathic.

'I have rheumatoid arthritis and was due to have my meds reviewed in April 2020. My appointment was cancelled. I was sent an appointment for a phone consultation in July last year but it's been postponed three times and it's now (allegedly) happening in August.

Meanwhile I've been off medication since February last year and I'm in constant severe pain and often unable to walk. I've phoned the rheumatology department several times begging for help. The nurses have told me that rather than just pop along to the consultant's office with my notes so she can help me they have to email her, and she has a massive backlog to get through. The reason they can't just pop along is, of course, covid. Covid is also the reason why they have a huge backlog and why my phone appointment keeps getting postponed.

I'm in agony every waking moment and all my GP can do is prescribe codeine which barely touches the sides. The longer I'm without meds the more damage is being done to my body. And all the other symptoms of RA too (it's really not just creaky joints).

It's not selfish to want the ridiculous rules done away with (like not being able to pop to the next door office with some notes). Millions of people are vulnerable, not just children, and not just from covid. There are other diseases and people's lives are being ruined by them, too.

Maybe you should try some of that empathy for the different circumstances of others you talk about.'

Vampire's Wife - yes , I am aware and do empathise, that's why I rarely talk about the way I feel as everyone will have a different experience of this pandemic - I wish more people would be aware of other's experiences/viewpoints. Many people's crucial treatment has been delayed , sometime's with fatal consequences. I am also in a lot of pain due to an op that has been postponed indefinitely due to covid . Yet, without the restrictions, the NHS would be even less able to cope with illness, covid or otherwise.

[quote Passthesauce]@shewalkslikerihanna 💐. I hope you manage to do so soon.[/quote]
Thank you.
I’m pretty good at taking care of my health so I’m managing it but it would be nice to know ( via a scan) that nothing is developing in the meanwhile

passthesauce

I have every sympathy but I'm not sure that whoever is telling you the wait is the fault of lockdown is being entirely truthful. The wait times were already unconscionable, it was already underfunded, you would have been extremely lucky to have ever seen anyone in a timely fashion. It's also the case that you would have not seen anyone during an unrestricted wave. I do hope you access help soon however.

@TableFlowerss

No, but it does mean that going "NO ONE HAS EVER SUFFERED LIKE THESE CHILDREN NOW ARE SUFFERING" is ridiculous.

If my kids come up to me (and they have at times) and say "Everything feels a bit sucky, all this sucks, I hate covid, I want a hug" that's absolutely fine and they get their hug and a listening ear. Because yes, it does suck.

If however they told me that their generation was the only generation to ever have suffered like this for the sake of older generations they would get snorted at and a history lesson.

The one is absolutely fine. The other is staunchly untrue and deserves challenging.

Another ticking time bomb. People being told to isolate for 14 days before surgery and not to get public transport to appointments. HOW? Some work in care or retail and dont have jobs that can be done from home.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4274921-Isolating-for-medical-appointments-So-confused

Many people's crucial treatment has been delayed , sometime's with fatal consequences. I am also in a lot of pain due to an op that has been postponed indefinitely due to covid . Yet, without the restrictions, the NHS would be even less able to cope with illness, covid or otherwise

I'm unsure as to how not being allowed to walk a few steps down a corridor in a rheumatology department to hand a colleague some notes would make the NHS less able to cope with Covid. It makes that department far less able to cope with the illness it treats, however.

The staff there are frustrated and snowed under because of the way they're being made to work.

@deathbypostitnote It's absolutely not the case that the problems are caused by covid but it's now proving a very handy excuse.

It's not just down to underfunding either - I am not entirely sure how any consultant would expect to see a patient without having read any background information before they came through the door. Net result is that we're still in the system four years later, are taking up way more time than we would otherwise have done (having to start the whole process again) but are now being fobbed off because of covid.

Absolutely agree

There should have never been any lockdowns and restrictions. We have examples of plenty of countries who either never locked down or paid a lip service to it all. At this point they are not plagued by variants and their people are scarcely vaccinated.

To me it seems people don’t understand mass testing. By testing we know where the hotspots are, I was in one. There’s a concerted effort to get everyone vaccinated which won’t stop all transmission but will slow it down

Yes we need to learn to live with it, once every age group is vaccinated and they are not all at the moment

As to the crass comments about it being a mild disease for most, tell it to those with long covid, those whose child died, etc

It’s a few more weeks

Posts like this make me cross, selfish, me me me

@345tyu

And lots are not international hubs like we are, where shedloads enter every single day

'Many people who are railing against the restrictions have little support and have experienced a very different lockdown to someone whose children say, spent lockdown dragging their ponies around the paddock while their parents took Zoom calls in a spare room.'

Death by post it note, yes, it's the privileged (I think that privileged can also mean being lucky enough to be healthy and have a supportive family - not necessarily wealthy) ones you mention in your post who seem to be objecting to the restrictions the most, the ones that haven't really experienced hardship. On the other hand, many of those who are truely suffering due to lockdowns and the pandemic, tend to 'put up and shut up'. Everyone's experience is different - there's no easy answer.

@Dressingup

A guy at work said he had to carry a gas mask around with him as a young child and was made to go to the country side away from his family to help save the country my grandad was sent out on a ship in the navy which was bombed I think we have it lucky yes it’s a pain but it’s not lasting 6 years we haven’t had to ration food either

If he was saying that happened to him in the UK, exactly how old was he? 80? 90? The WW2 evacuations all took place 1939-40, and he must have been at least school age to have gone without his mother. So born 1935 at the latest? And he still works with you does he?

My ds has stopped doing the twice weekly LFT tests for school, they cause him to have nosebleeds, something we had just got cleared up before Covid. I am getting constant emails & texts from school asking me to demand he does them. He is double jabbed, he got his jab done as he is a carer for me & his dad. Sooner or later we have to stop doing all this testing, it would be interesting to know what percentage of all the tests done in schools are positive & how much money the testing has cost.

there is no better way of teaching kids who have been vaccinated to question the point of vaccines.

@Changechangychange in all fairness the poster you quoted didn't say 'a guy I work with' they said 'a guy at work said' maybe they work in a care home and were talking to a resident?

@User135644

Another few weeks

We were told that back in 2020.