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All this has to stop. We can’t live like this!

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SweetsMum3 · 20/06/2021 15:44

We need to learn to live with covid like we do with all other viruses, illnesses and diseases. The elderly and high risk are vaccinated… that was the goal, remember?! Like Hancock said, we will cry freedom when the over 70s are vaccinated!

There is no reason for mass testing when the young and healthy get covid mildly. My child is in tears yet again because she isn’t allowed to go to school for 10 days. A few students in her year group tested positive and all students are forced to be locked in their homes… again.

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

This isn’t fair. This isn’t healthy. This isn’t sane. This is harmful and destructive to children. An entire generation has been betrayed. For what exactly? Over a virus which does not affect them. Over fear. Over people being immensely risk-averse. Over loss of control and people can’t take it.

It is time we live our lives and get back to normal before it’s too late. If our children hold us accountable and never forgive us, I will completely understand. We have not stood-up for them. Instead, we cowered in fear not giving a hoot about the collateral damage all these restrictions have caused. Shame on us.

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Tealightsandd · 20/06/2021 21:42

@Baileysforchristmas

What’s scary is we are becoming a 2 tier system, children will continually have to isolate while other members of society will be able to carry on, it’s frightening and the spread will never stop, scary times.
Once get more supplies (which we will), we will be able to start vaccinating children (priority for CEV and CV), like other countries are doing.

We might not have enough just yet, but we have more on order due to be delivered over the coming months.

frumpety · 20/06/2021 21:44

We are all compliant sheep.

I really object to this term, as someone who self identifies as a Herdwick, I am not in any way randomly compliant, you need a dog and a quad bike to find and herd me for a start, then there is the ever present fear that once you have found me, got me to go in the direction you want, I will give you the side eye and keel over dead, just to piss you off and make your day on the side of a steep hill that little bit harder. #mistunderstoodandsheepish

bumbleymummy · 20/06/2021 21:45

And the deaths currently being suffered are more likely to be in the younger part of the population as it is mostly the unvaccinated being affected.

I think the majority of the deaths are still occurring in older/vulnerable people(even if they have been double/single jabbed). Yes, proportionally there are more young people contracting it but there doesn't seem to be an increase in actual incidence of serious illness/death in the younger population.

Baileysforchristmas · 20/06/2021 21:46

What’s worrying is people on here not being up in arms of other parts of society not following rules but giving mums and children such a hard time, this is becoming very scary

Beannag · 20/06/2021 21:51

@Zzelda

Unfortunately, there is a point where small numbers of fatalities/long term issues has to be accepted.

But OP alleged that nothing worse than a slight fever and tiredness ever happens. And the deaths currently being suffered are more likely to be in the younger part of the population as it is mostly the unvaccinated being affected.

That's not true. Cases are more prevalent in younger people at the moment, but not deaths. Don't spread crap that you've just made up, based on nothing.
Tealightsandd · 20/06/2021 21:51

@Baileysforchristmas

What’s worrying is people on here not being up in arms of other parts of society not following rules but giving mums and children such a hard time, this is becoming very scary
People have been very vocal about, for example, the football crowds over the weekend.

And if it's true that VIP Euro visitors are going to be given exemptions from quarantine. Well that's appalling.

Tealightsandd · 20/06/2021 21:53

older/vulnerable people

Who do you think those not elderly 'vulnerable' people are? If they're not elderly... they're younger people.

shewalkslikerihanna · 20/06/2021 21:53

@MarshaBradyo

I’ve been one of the most compliant probably but this week has tipped me over the other side. It’s ridiculous
Seeing all the G7 photos has given me the rage
All this has to stop. We can’t live like this!
Awalkintime · 20/06/2021 21:54

shewalkslikerihanna
8 parents dead at the school where my friend works so yes it has killed adults with young children.

Strawberriesonasummersevening · 20/06/2021 21:54

@Tealightsandd

Thank you 🙏

No, sorry, the people coming out of hospital, relapsing, then dying?

TheRainbow · 20/06/2021 21:56

'Are you really saying spending time at home with your family for even a year is worse than a season in a hospital room?

I have to step away now to protect my own sanity.'.
Well said Castle Peak. The OP and all who agree with her clearly don't give a s.... about' strangers' and people, old and young, who may be more vulnerable to covid. This past year has been hard for us all, but it's been made a lot harder by people's total lack of empathy for others who may have a different set of circumstances. Yes, OP, sweets, or whoever you are, you are selfish but no different, sadly, from many others who can only think about the holidays they're missing out on, not being able to do some shopping, going out for a meal blah, blah, blah... When the reality is, this is a pandemic, people are dying in hospital without being able to see their families. Children are losing their parents, one or both...this is what really affects mental health.. not simply a restriction on lifestyle for a relatively short period of time or a break in education for children who have now returned (the 'vulnerable' children stayed at school throughout). My children haven't been able to visit family and we home schooled at the same time as working and it was hell, but it was the right thing to do! Sick and tired of this utter selfishness.

frumpety · 20/06/2021 21:56

What’s worrying is people on here not being up in arms of other parts of society not following rules but giving mums and children such a hard time, this is becoming very scary

I wonder who you mean ? Heaven forbid you should actually tell us in the same post, perhaps you could share who these 'other parts of society' are and why you find it so scary ? Do try to add in a little bit about the tool of propoganda and the use of fear for extra points.

MarshaBradyo · 20/06/2021 21:58

clearly don't give a s.... about' strangers' and people, old and young, who may be more vulnerable to covid. This past year has been hard for us all, but it's been made a lot harder by people's total lack of empathy for others who may have a different set of circumstances.

That’s not right though is it. There’s been huge costs for over a year to everyone, and compliance has been high.

Baileysforchristmas · 20/06/2021 21:59

@Awalkintime and it’s terrible this has happened but should we be blaming other children and holding them accountable? While people were travelling into the country when we were all in lockdown and it was illegal. 20,000 Football fans allowed to do whatever they like without being tested, shouldn’t we be holding them accountable?

Wellbythebloodyhell · 20/06/2021 21:59

[quote SweetsMum3]**@TableFlowerss* @MargosKaftan*

MargosKaftan

“We have damaged the lives of millions to protect the lives of thousands. If you or your loved one is amongst the thousands, it probably feels worth it - I can see you might think there is no sacrifice too great for them. But similarly, can you see if you and everyone you care about is in the millions who have had their lives damaged to protect strangers, it might seem not worth it?

Yes yes yes and yes!”

This Xs a thousand!!![/quote]
Yep! Also this 🙌 a point of view that gets so regularly ignored or slated on here beforehand I'm glad to see this is now being recognised and accepted

TheKeatingFive · 20/06/2021 22:00

8 parents dead at the school where my friend works so yes it has killed adults with young children.

That’s a real statistical anomaly then.

Tealightsandd · 20/06/2021 22:00

Strawberries I can't find it again (I always forget to bookmark!). Another poster linked something very helpful, I think from the BMJ, on different thread the other day. I'll try to find it.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 20/06/2021 22:02

8 parents dead at the school where my friend works so yes it has killed adults with young children.

Bullshit.

shewalkslikerihanna · 20/06/2021 22:02

@TheKeatingFive

all the will in the world won't make it over just because you say it is

Actually it will. Governance only works by consent.

True Enough is enough now Not only have the people spoken The G7 leaders have spoken…by their actions
MarshaBradyo · 20/06/2021 22:03

Shewalk yep and the football crowd v children’s sports day pic, on a thread somewhere

Made worse as over 100 not allowed outside house / garden due to one case atm

I’m a rule follower but discrepancy is testing now

MarshaBradyo · 20/06/2021 22:05

8 parents dead at the school where my friend works so yes it has killed adults with young children.

Incredibly unlikely. How old were they all?

Roonerspismed · 20/06/2021 22:05

We are one of the most vaccine compliant countries in the world yet are following further and further behind reopening. We are going backwards. Why?

Tealightsandd · 20/06/2021 22:07

Found it.

www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n693

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 20/06/2021 22:07

We have damaged the lives of millions to protect the lives of thousands. If you or your loved one is amongst the thousands, it probably feels worth it - I can see you might think there is no sacrifice too great for them. But similarly, can you see if you and everyone you care about is in the millions who have had their lives damaged to protect strangers, it might seem not worth it?

Agreed and happy to be called selfish for not wanting this to persist. It’s not worth it any more. Yes I care more about my child and their happiness (and mine, tbh) than strangers who I will never meet who are living in hard situations and think the answer is making life shit for everyone else as well.

shewalkslikerihanna · 20/06/2021 22:07

@PandasCatsWolves

I've had enough of the Ive had enough threads !!
Byeee