All this has to stop. We can’t live like this!

[SweetsMum3]

We need to learn to live with covid like we do with all other viruses, illnesses and diseases. The elderly and high risk are vaccinated… that was the goal, remember?! Like Hancock said, we will cry freedom when the over 70s are vaccinated!

There is no reason for mass testing when the young and healthy get covid mildly. My child is in tears yet again because she isn’t allowed to go to school for 10 days. A few students in her year group tested positive and all students are forced to be locked in their homes… again.

Are the sick?! No. Half have no symptoms. The others have a slight fever and feel a little tired.

This isn’t fair. This isn’t healthy. This isn’t sane. This is harmful and destructive to children. An entire generation has been betrayed. For what exactly? Over a virus which does not affect them. Over fear. Over people being immensely risk-averse. Over loss of control and people can’t take it.

It is time we live our lives and get back to normal before it’s too late. If our children hold us accountable and never forgive us, I will completely understand. We have not stood-up for them. Instead, we cowered in fear not giving a hoot about the collateral damage all these restrictions have caused. Shame on us.

So I have to say we are protecting children I'm afraid. Even if doing so seems unpalatable.

We may be protecting some children but we are harming many others

[quote SweetsMum3]@Lucifersladylove

My life is not the only life that matters? You do realize that 70 million people live in this country? Every life has been effected.
Children get this virus so mildly. A very very small percentage of children died with covid and they were extremely ill, as per Chris Whitty(your god). We can not keep healthy and innocent people and children locked in their homes for the very few. Secondly, there’s no evidence that these measures even work![/quote]
Except WE are keeping children locked up in their houses. We are keeping CEV children locked up and this is the very fucking reason they aren't in the figures for deaths but I suppose it would be OK if we had thousands of child deaths in the UK as long as they were unhealthy ones.

I agree op
People have been standing up but the fear that was ramped up far more than was necessary haas made the opposition far more vociferous.

It’s an awful legacy.

I truly sympathise and I hope the March next week in london on the 26th is well supported.
I hope all the angry people get out there and shout for freedom and our children.

@shewalkslikerihanna

I hope the March will be massive! However, the MSM, especially the BBC will never cover it. They just say “hundreds showed up to protest” when last time there were 10s of thousands.

[quote SweetsMum3]@LucilleTheVampireBat

I know. But who really are the selfish ones? Those who don’t put children first are the selfish ones. This is the first time in history when we as adults said to children, “You need to take care of us. You need to sacrifice your mental health, your education, your career, your childhood, your social development, etc etc… to protect us adults!”[/quote]
Er. So those times we forcibly spent 16 year olds to war (and allowed 14 and 15 year olds at home the mental health knock-on of knowing it was coming) didn't happen then?

Everyone knows the UK had and has the longest and strictest lockdown.

Does anybody in the UK genuinely think that is true ?

@frumpety

Everyone knows the UK had and has the longest and strictest lockdown.

Does anybody in the UK genuinely think that is true ?

Only on April Fool's Day.

@frumpety

Everyone knows the UK had and has the longest and strictest lockdown.

Does anybody in the UK genuinely think that is true ?

Who did?

Out of interest

This thread is like a car crash. The utter stupidity of some people is really depressing. No wonder you're struggling so much with the restrictions if you believe all the shite you read. I do think people would cope better if they tried to educate themselves and stopped believing info bandied about as if they were facts.

[quote SweetsMum3]@Lucifersladylove

🙄 zero proof lockdowns work. You do know where they originated from right?[/quote]
They were invented by Malcolm McLaren, when he was finished inventing voguing, opera, the drums of Burundi, punk rock and hip hop. Any more questions?

@Getawaywithit

Shame on you. Your compliance is hurting our children

And your non-compliance means we have to keep pushing back the date when this is genuinely over.

Oh and my children, well one of them at least, along with thousands of othe children across the country, is CV. Not that people like you give a stuff about them.

Hugs. I feel you.

It’s horrific that because our kids are in the small majority. With blood cancers etc. Or kidney disease. Or having chemo.

We need to keep them locked up eh. Hugs

This thread is amusing.
OP ranting at anyone who'll listen and many people agreeing.
Covid doesn't care about your rant OP, do whatever you like.
Honestly, anyone would think the children in this country were wandering about a refugee camp, full of disease and lost parents. They've missed a bit of school. It's not the end of the world.

However, the MSM, especially the BBC will never cover it.

Well you know the solution to that. Take the placards and the shuffle elsewhere. Protests and marches are two a penny in London. Nothing newsworthy.

NHS England data - total number of Covid deaths in the 0-19 age group is 41 (33 with known underlying health condition, eight without)

imgur.com/nLcyn7E

I am in Texas (in a major city, liberal, not a Trumpster). School opened back in October and the state re-opened in March. We have no Covid rules anymore. No masks nor can there be a mask mandate. 100% capacity at all indoor places. Vaccine rate is about half, just under. Delta variant numbers are very low. I think 10% of US cases are Delta.

Interestingly, this has done NOTHING to relieve tension. People are angry, yelling at shop workers, driving aggressively, being snappy.

In the beginning, when the cage door first opened, a lot of people didn't leave the cage. Many people are/were very smug with their mask wearing and yelling at people for not wearing a mask when there was no requirement to do so.

It's actually kind of scary.

The concern is the Delta variant won't be an issue until August. It will be interesting to see what happens. The Governor say he will never shut down again.

This doesn't even take into account what the power grid failure did to people's sense of stability. Maybe things are worse here because of that. One second you worry about a pandemic and the next second you are burning the crib to generate heat and crapping in the back yard next to your dog. The pandemic restrictions seemed silly after that (and that's when the Gov lifted them). We could all be taken out in one swoop of mother nature unrelated to the pandemic.

My point is ending the restrictions doesn't change the "tone of the room" very much. The tension is still running high.

@jumpbounce

Omg, thousands of children would have died?! You really don’t follow the data do you? This virus is minuscule to children. Influenza is more deadly! Have you locked-up your kid every winter??

[quote SweetsMum3]@RoundersGarden

That’s really hard. The UK are the only ones making these ridiculous rules, ie testing 3x to travel, mandatory 10 day quarantine. It’s awful.[/quote]
Wow.

That is totally, utterly, irrefutably bull shit.

Oh boy, do I agree with you. 80% of the population has had 1st vaccine, nearly 60% has second. The vaccine either works or it doesn’t. All the vulnerable/elderly are as protected as they can be. I’ve been compliant all the way through. We’ve all helped save others lives for 15 months, what about our lives now? This whole thing is ridiculous now.

Last week, it was reported that 8/10 adults now have antibodies, so what are we waiting for?

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-around-8-in-10-uk-adults-have-covid-antibodies-ons-says-12328442

To the people who have CEV / CV children, I have huge sympathy.
I just don't give a shit about those who are ranting about lockdown in general.
It happened. Deal with it.

Agree OP. Totally over it. Yes, there are vulnerable people out there but they are vulnerable to other illnesses too, not just Covid. Yes, people will die. That’s what happens in life and we can’t go on half-living to try to keep absolutely everyone alive as long as possible.

Covid doesn't care about your rant OP

No because it’s not sentient, it doesn’t ‘care’ about anything.

Can we please, please stop with this phraseology. It’s so embarrassing and childish at this stage.

This is fucking bullshit Mn style about CEV children aswell.

Everyone I know, and this includes all children have been offered to vaccinated by now.

@MarshaBradyo

Jump if you could choose what restrictions would you keep and for how long?

I would probably lift the majority of restrictions to be fair, but i would keep the test, trace and isolate alongside social distancing and mask wearing however I would relax social distancing amongst family and friends because I understand how hard that is but we don't need to be on top of complete strangers all the time. Foreign travel with strict isolation. I would fund all the isolation periods as well seeing as the government has plenty of millions to give to their friends so no one should face financial hardship due to the need to self isolate as a positive/symptoms/close contact. Once everyone who wanted a vaccine was able to get one - including children then at that point I would hope we would have herd immunity enough to protect those who the vaccines won't work for or who can't be vaccinated and then all restrictions would be lifted.

I hope the March will be massive! However, the MSM, especially the BBC will never cover it. They just say “hundreds showed up to protest” when last time there were 10s of thousands.

Here we go, the MSM have covered all of the big London marches, regardless of what you would like to think, the vast majority of the rest of the 67 million people who live in the UK just thought 'knobs' , but were just too polite and distracted by normal life to hunt you all down and write it on your doors. They still think it though.

There is a thread in the Coronavirus topic where medical folk talk frankly about whole families who died of the virus. It was not and is not unusual for a child to lose both parents to the virus. I've a feeling that thread is largely buried under those that don't give a fuck / are sick of it and want the virus to go away. I want it to go away too. However these threads seem to dominate. Possibly explains why we have a horrendously right wing Govt / Brexit / Racism issues.