Compulsory Vaccinations for Children

[Banjo36]

I put up a previous thread that I've not been able to even see one reply on because it was hidden and then deleted (may be better if the mods open a dialogue with the OP and allow retractions?). The video I was alluding to in the thread, after doing some quick googling, may have been prior to the pandemic in which Matt Hancock was discussing compulsory vaccinations for children (MMR). So, apologies for not checking first...however, the video was simply there to pose the question of whether you'd stand for compulsory vaccination for children? Considering the Health Secretary has previously been in favour of the idea for other vaccines is it beyond the realms of possibility that they won't try it with this vaccine?

I don't think they will become compulsory. But I think the government's behavioural scientists will find a way to place huge social pressure on children to get vaccinated, as they have already done very effectively with adults. So, I could imagine seeing marketing in schools, visits by health professionals to talk to classes etc. Coercion basically. It will probably work too :-(

Funny how the Tory party have cottoned onto the fact they can save £££ by vaccinating people instead of treating the sick. Kind of makes sense. I believe we'll see much more messaging and 'nudging' around all vaccinations. It'll be ahead of preventing diabetes and obesity because it's a/ so easy, b/ so cheap and c/ creates lots of jobs in the high tech vaccine R&D.

Problems will arise, however, when we're offered 10+ jabs and boosters a year against all kinds from rare or common diseases. At some point people start saying no thank you. The very moment these become compulsory, uptake will plummet. Another side effect will be a disease hysteria. A natural thing like contracting an infectious disease and being ill for a few days will become dramatic. Already seeing it with increased A&E admissions for babies and fever.

I would say it should depend on the situation. For example for adults, you don’t have to have vaccinations, except for certain jobs (eg medical) - where you ordinarily have to have hep b vaccine and I think measles, mumps, rubella too and maybe others.

So for children, I think if there was a CEV child in a class, there should be an ability to check the vaccination status (eg someone in LEA to do it) of everyone in the class and arrange classes so that the other kids in the class are vaccinated (unless medically unable - eg anaphylaxis).

Kids (including CEV kids and non vaxed kids) have a right to an education. CEV kids have a right to not be exposed to additional risk of infection.

@onthe7thdaygodmadewine

I don't think they will become compulsory. But I think the government's behavioural scientists will find a way to place huge social pressure on children to get vaccinated, as they have already done very effectively with adults. So, I could imagine seeing marketing in schools, visits by health professionals to talk to classes etc. Coercion basically. It will probably work too :-(

I totally agree with this.

Mandatory vaccinations will not exist as "mandatory vaccinations". Adults will have certain freedoms based on their vaccination status and children will be brainwashed into it.

I am double vaccinated, my children are all up to date with their vaccinations but there is no way I'll be letting them have a Covid vaccination.

I’d support a policy that made certain vaccines, e.g. MMR and covid if proven safe, a requirement for accessing childcare and state education.

I didn’t realise just how many CEV children there were in an average school until covid hit. I’d taught three in one class last year, knowing they had health conditions but not knowing just how dangerous some diseases could be to them.

I have a 2.5 year old, and I’d hate for her to be the cause of something happening to one of her friends.

I don’t agree with compulsory vaccination it just doesn’t sit right with me and I’m no way anti-vaxx my children have had all childhood immunisations without a second thought.

Covid vaccine though, my eldest is 13 so I will give her the choice of whether she would like it or not, my younger primary school Dc though I don’t think will be having it until a few years has passed to see how things go, it is such a new vaccine released under emergency measures and I just don’t think there is any benefit for children who are rarely seriously ill from it

No, I don't agree with mandatory vaccinations for anyone. Obviously most childhood vaccines are essential but I don't like the idea of compulsion, all the same.

@wasthataburp

Don't be so ludicrous. They won't be compulsory. It's against international law for starters and not to mention would be completely immoral and against human rights

Don't they already have mandatory vaccinations for children in the USA in order to enrol in public education?

Vaccines shouldn’t be mandatory. I sometimes think I wouldn’t be against the idea of making the MMR a pre requisite to work in and/or use a childcare settings that had children too young to have been vaccinated. I suspect though it could be counterproductive at a population level as you may end up with less vaccinated kids overall than if it is voluntary. In the end the system we have works pretty well so why change it and risk reducing take up

@AllWashedOut

Funny how the Tory party have cottoned onto the fact they can save £££ by vaccinating people instead of treating the sick. Kind of makes sense. I believe we'll see much more messaging and 'nudging' around all vaccinations. It'll be ahead of preventing diabetes and obesity because it's a/ so easy, b/ so cheap and c/ creates lots of jobs in the high tech vaccine R&D.

Problems will arise, however, when we're offered 10+ jabs and boosters a year against all kinds from rare or common diseases. At some point people start saying no thank you. The very moment these become compulsory, uptake will plummet. Another side effect will be a disease hysteria. A natural thing like contracting an infectious disease and being ill for a few days will become dramatic. Already seeing it with increased A&E admissions for babies and fever.

Gosh so well said !

@AllWashedOut The conversations i have had in RL ...............someone has always come up with the comment "its all about not having to use the NHS"

@onthe7thdaygodmadewine I can see Laura D writing a follow up book if things like that start happening.