Anyone else not going to test children anymore

[Baileysforchristmas]

My daughter is 15, she said none of her friends are testing anymore. Why should I make her test twice a week now? All it will do is stop her going to school and us getting on with our lives, it will also stop her bubble going to school and she will get blamed. My daughter didn’t go to school for 3 months while flights were coming into the country from other parts of the world which could do as they please. Why should I take the risk of putting my daughter’s life on hold, also the more we test the more the numbers go up, Europe’s not testing secondary school children twice a week so obviously their numbers won’t be showing as high.

Well duh. It's human nature to only care about your immidiate friends and family, no one truly cares about everyone else.

What utter bull

Ah, good old Maggie and her 'there is no such thing as society' eh?

@Baileysforchristmas

Well enjoy your self isolating weekend, I’m off to lunch with friends today and then off to London for a celebration lunch with family and friends. No I don’t feel guilty, the tests are voluntary so I’m not doing anything wrong. We have no symptoms and we haven’t tested positive or been contacted to say we have been in close contact with anyone.

What an unpleasant comment.

I know whose pupils I’d rather teach.

@klangers

I am deeply ashamed to be British sometimes. Especially when I read this kind of selfish behaviour. The fact the government has been incompetent, does not justify your refusal to follow steps to help control the spread of COVID.

I think we need to be careful vilifying people who are doing things that are perfectly legal.

And while I am absolutely fuming at how the government have handled this latest variant (I let them off last year as it was an unknown virus, but we have more experience of it now), my blame lies squarely with the individuals who are breaking the rules.

The government had clear rules on not travelling abroad (unless exempt), quarantine on return and isolating if positive (or a contact). These were simple and easy to understand.

Most of us have followed them but many it seems haven’t, especially those who didn’t quarantine on return from India and other similar places. Also the twat near us who decided to go on a pub crawl while knowingly positive. This is the cause of the spread.

Most people have followed all of the steps to help control the spread for the past year. If the government want us to do regular testing, especially in schools, they need to set up school onsite pcr testing like in hospitals and make it mandatory. These half arsed measures of relying on public goodwill to do things will end up with the same people complying and the ones who don’t care won’t!

Even the ones who always comply (like me) are wondering what the point is now as it feels like one step forward and two back...

@motherrunner
Agreed. Ive had it both as a parent and a teacher with the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude.

[quote mamaduckbone]@motherrunner
Agreed. Ive had it both as a parent and a teacher with the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude. [/quote]
I'm not surprised. I'd hate to still be teaching given the utter irresponsibility and pride in their behaviour demonstrated by some posters.

@Baileysforchristmas

Well enjoy your self isolating weekend, I’m off to lunch with friends today and then off to London for a celebration lunch with family and friends. No I don’t feel guilty, the tests are voluntary so I’m not doing anything wrong. We have no symptoms and we haven’t tested positive or been contacted to say we have been in close contact with anyone.

Hope you have a brilliant time! We've never tested as have no symptoms and don't feel guilty at all.

And no one but HQ can police what you post or how you post it. If others don't like it but you are not breaking Guidelines, that is too bad for them. Incidentally, the very ones who would like to control how others post are on here breaking Talk Guidelines by calling individual posters arses, twats, all sorts.

Exactly this

Wow 😯

Well duh. It's human nature to only care about your immidiate friends and family, no one truly cares about everyone else.

So shocked and disgusted I couldn't even quote properly. You can't seriously believe that?

teachers at risk were prioritised because they'd have been on the top 9 categories

I worked full time, in close contact with almost 300 children with no social distancing and no masks for the Autumn term despite being CV. Unsurprisingly I caught covid, most certainly caught as school based on everything that happened at the time and since. I was rushed to hospital due to a very real risk of heart attack or stroke.

data has shown time and time again teachers are way down the list of at risk jobs

The data was collected in such a way that made it somewhat pointless for several reasons. These have been posted on MN on a range of threads should you wish to read more about the issues regarding this 'evidence.'

and don't all bullshit about long covid - none of these cases have seen a gp - they completed a questionnaire and people were diagnosed if they had any symptoms lasting over 4 weeks. The most common age group is middle age women - no shit - i'm knackered having home schooled and worked throughout but doesnt make it long covid

I have been diagnosed with Long Covid.

Actually, yes, I have definitely been seen by a GP, as well as a Covid specialist nurse and a consultant working in the cardiology department. I have also seen my own consultant. I have, in addition, completed and spoken with the medical team at the teaching hospital who are investigating and researching this aspect of covid.

I wasn't actually spoken to formally about it until the new year, so over 2 months later. Most recently I was spoken to about it last month, so 7 months after having covid. Not just at 4 weeks.

I will now be taking two additional medications for life due to issues arising when I had covid. Fortunately my post virus issues aren't severe. I'd say they were fairly mild considering, bar the medicated issue. But they still have an impact on my daily life which wasn't there before I had covid.

I know of two other person to have been diagnosed with long covid. Both have been seen physically by their GP and more have engaged with the nurse specialists at the hospital department dealing with covid, either in person or by telephone. Neither just via a questionnaire.

@Feenie

Well duh. It's human nature to only care about your immidiate friends and family, no one truly cares about everyone else.

So shocked and disgusted I couldn't even quote properly. You can't seriously believe that?

I'm afraid that I am beginning to believe it's how many people feel. It's depressing.

@Feenie

Well duh. It's human nature to only care about your immidiate friends and family, no one truly cares about everyone else.

So shocked and disgusted I couldn't even quote properly. You can't seriously believe that?

Yes, I am calling it as I see it. In my whole life I have not seen evidence that humans truly care about others beyond their friends and family, and that has been especially true this last year and a half.

The people who were in danger of losing their jobs, businesses, homes and mental health due to the lockdown were against the lockdown. Meanwhile the people who were more scared of covid than the impact of lockdown were in favor of the lockdown. They might have disguised their fear with "wanting to protect the vulnerable", but it was just that, a disguise.

I think there is a very good book to be written by a behavioral psychologist about people's behavior during the last year.

If you have a rebuttal to my opinion , I'd like to hear it.

The people who were in danger of losing their jobs, businesses, homes and mental health due to the lockdown were against the lockdown. Meanwhile the people who were more scared of covid than the impact of lockdown were in favor of the lockdown. They might have disguised their fear with "wanting to protect the vulnerable", but it was just that, a disguise.

This is 100% true.

I agree, Honey!

I think you’re right too

I don't see why some people are actually proud of not caring about wider society.

@osbertthesyrianhamster thank you I had a lovely day. It’s funny how I get a roasting on here when I am doing nothing wrong but no one mentions people traveling over lockdown who were breaking the law but that’s ok, 20,000 Scottish fans travel in packed trains go into pubs, no social distancing but that’s fine. So done with the whole thing now. I will thoroughly enjoy myself tomorrow. I hope you all have a lovely weekend

I don't see why some people are actually proud of not caring about wider society.

I don’t see anyone being ‘proud’. Just pragmatic and self aware.

I’m interested in what people have done for society beyond limiting Covid in the U.K?

What did people do before Covid to support preventable deaths in the developing world? Have they been campaigning for the U.K. to donate vaccines to the vulnerable in less fortunate countries before vaccinating their young, non vulnerable population? What have those supportive of lockdown done to support those financially destroyed by it?

So many questions.

@ilovesooty

I don't see why some people are actually proud of not caring about wider society.

How much do you do for wider society? Define wider society, why has that for some reason not included so many of the disabled, ill, disenfranchised and poor until Covid came along, not to mention in the world. It's uncanny.

I'm off to party and holiday with mates next week. Can already taste the fun!

I'm glad you had a good time, Baileys. May it be the first of many.

In the case of this thread I'm referring to the irresponsibility of those refusing to test their children and not caring about the possibility that they're asymptomatic spreaders.

@ilovesooty

I don't see why some people are actually proud of not caring about wider society.

I think I do.

@Baileysforchristmas, no roasting for going out enjoying yourself, it's your attitude and desperation to tell everyone to stop testing etc that is unpleasant.

@TheKeatingFive it's really not 100% true, nothing is that black and white.

it's really not 100% true, nothing is that black and white.

I have seen no evidence to the contrary in my 40 years on this planet.

I have, in these Covid times, and throughout life.

In the case of this thread I'm referring to the irresponsibility of those refusing to test their children and not caring about the possibility that they're asymptomatic spreaders.

Interesting side step.

I’ve no skin in this particular game, however you need to take into consideration firstly it’s not mandated and secondly it’s not being asked of adults. If it was so important for ‘wider society’ why not?