Anyone else not going to test children anymore

[Baileysforchristmas]

My daughter is 15, she said none of her friends are testing anymore. Why should I make her test twice a week now? All it will do is stop her going to school and us getting on with our lives, it will also stop her bubble going to school and she will get blamed. My daughter didn’t go to school for 3 months while flights were coming into the country from other parts of the world which could do as they please. Why should I take the risk of putting my daughter’s life on hold, also the more we test the more the numbers go up, Europe’s not testing secondary school children twice a week so obviously their numbers won’t be showing as high.

@Jennyfromtheculdesac

OP I’m not sure what your point is. If I understand correctly, you are happy for your child to potentially spread covid around their school because some people were allowed to travel to India?

People weren’t allowed to travel to India or anywhere else apart from a few with special reasons. It was illegal. We weren’t allowed out of the house apart from work (if unable to work from home), exercise, care or seeking medical advice. Kids weren’t in school.

The government obviously knew many had travelled illegally and allowed a 7 day window for them to return before hotel quarantine. Then allowed many of them off the hook when they didn’t quarantine. I haven’t heard of any fines for illegal travel or lack of quarantine.

So, that gives me the message that they are not serious about keeping numbers down and reducing community spread.

@Jennyfromtheculdesac it’s the hypocrisy of the whole thing, different rules for different people, then the people who stick to the rules, get the blame for spreading it i.e children as they are testing more.

Well yeah but by that logic, people coming back from portugal could say “well Michael Gove isn’t taking PCRs so neither will I.” Much like the Barnard castle effect. It’s unfortunate that the leaders are who they are but you don’t have to match the lowest common denominator.

Had you not noticed that they were hypocritical incompetents?

But when people were going to India it was illegal, we were all in lockdown, stay home save lives but that didn’t mean certain people, then extra planes were put on to get them back before the deadline. Religious festivals of 10 million people, big weddings with no restrictions, that wasn’t happening in Portugal.

According to the Civil Aviation Authority, about 50,000 people travelled between India and the UK in February, nearly 900 a day in each direction. On 13 May, Public Health England found nearly half of Delta variant cases in England were travellers.

So is this what 'DoThe Right Thing' means now?....
'Don't Bother Doing The Right Thing If Someone Else Is Doing The Wrong Thing'
I'll remember to teach my kids that nugget of morality.

Yeah so blame children again for spreading it , unless everyone is testing regularly, it’s unfair. The children who report a positive test are then blamed by the other children and their families for being put in isolation.

If we have symptoms then yes we will test but a false positive is not worth the risk for all the grief. It has to be Everyone test twice a week or it’s not a fair system.

@CocoLady

Absolutely traumatised my 6 year old had to do it twice never ever again

My 6 and 8 year old have done it lots of times, some for symptoms, some for research. No one is traumatised It’s not the most fun thing ever but it takes seconds. I suggest you work on teaching your children some resilience.

@Baileysforchristmas

Yeah so blame children again for spreading it , unless everyone is testing regularly, it’s unfair. The children who report a positive test are then blamed by the other children and their families for being put in isolation.

Having lost our half term after a child in my DD’s bubble tested positive so we were in isolation, I can promise you that the only messages between me and the other parents were ones of concern for the child and hoping they were ok. Of course we were disappointed at losing out on our plans but no one blamed the child. I’d have been more annoyed if they’d neglected to test and had been parading covid around.

@SoSadAboutMyDad

Unless you know @CocoLady’s child in any way, I suggest you work on butting out.

My DD is 7 and really resilient and able to cope with lots of things. She has massive sensory issues though and doing the test really scares her even though she knows it’s going to be ok.

Yeah so blame children again for spreading it

Spread in schools is one factor in the spread - that's not blame, that's acknowledgement.

Regular LFTs are one tool in helping to curtail that spread - they are not perfect, but with other measures taken, they help.

The blame game has happened before, that’s why children don’t want to do it anymore.

@Watapalava

teachers at risk were prioritised because they'd have been on the top 9 categories

data has shown time and time again teachers are way down the list of at risk jobs

the fact gps took so long to get trough group 6 demonstrated that vaccination by job wold have been tediously slow

those teachers and other people currently unvaccinated have almost zero risk now i honestly don't have a clue what they are so worried about.

and don't all bullshit about long covid - none of these cases have seen a gp - they completed a questionnaire and people were diagnosed if they had any symptoms lasting over 4 weeks. The most common age group is middle age women - no shit - i'm knackered having home schooled and worked throughout but doesnt make it long covid

What do you mean by no longer covid cases have seen a GP? Many have. Many have had hospital treatment, and some are in hospital right now. My cousin with long covid require regular blood transfusions. My pupil with long covid has been repeatedly blue-lighted in with cardiac symptoms. Both were perfectly healthy before covid. One is a teenage boy, one is a middle aged woman. What of it?

It’s a very small minority of children who have been ill from Covid, your school sounds like it’s been very unlucky. There was a thread on here asking about long Covid in teens, hardly anyone replied, it would’ve lit up if there were huge amount of cases. The same with my daughter’s school, it would be all over the parent school Facebook, my wattsapp would’ve lit up. Which area are you @0None0 ?

[quote Baileysforchristmas]@Jennyfromtheculdesac it’s the hypocrisy of the whole thing, different rules for different people, then the people who stick to the rules, get the blame for spreading it i.e children as they are testing more.[/quote]
I’m not sure I’ve heard anyone blame children who are testing for spreading covid. But plenty of people will blame children who aren’t tearing. The case numbers are simply fact and show the particular age groups in which is it most spreading.

Tearing? Testing, obviously!

im sure these teens you speak off are not going to be even thinking about this stuff in 5 years time , let alone harbouring it as a shameful secret , a teen not testing for covid is not quite on par with murdering somebody although i have a feeling you will say it is lol

This!

It's hilarious when people assign all sorts of heavy emotion to random people when the reality is, people who don't give the proverbial flying one now certainly won't in 5 years time. LOL.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@osbertthesyrianhamster

I find it ludicrous to test people who are not ill en mass so I don't and they don't, either.

Are you against newborn health screening? Blood tests during pregnancy? Ultrasounds?
What about mammograms? Cervical smears? Bowel screening?
Regular eye tests? 6-monthly dental check ups?

Do you have an annual boiler check? Electricity safety inspection? What about having a survey done before buying a house?

I mean, why do any of these things if there's no signs of trouble?[/quote]
Actually, I don't do and didn't do a lot of that. My landlord does all the boiler stuff. I guess it's the law.

But some people will use any juxtaposition, however wild, when it comes to Covid and mass testing healthy people who have been vaccinated twice with a test that's banned in some countries for being so unreliable.

www.channel4.com/news/hospitals-told-to-brace-for-double-wave-of-covid-and-child-infections

@Jennyfromtheculdesac well it happened at my daughters school when her boyfriend had a false positive, I don’t want to go through that again. My daughter was in tears as they other children were giving her boyfriend such a hard time, I then had parents texting me, complaining about their children having to be off school.

There is also article in the bbc saying it’s now spreading in young people, well surprise surprise when they are the only ones testing twice a week. Everyone does it or it messes up the figures .

@GingerandTilly that article isn’t saying the RSV is caused by Covid in children though?

Paediatricians have been warning for months of the risk of a wave of RSV infections outside the normal winter season, as has been seen in Australia and other countries, though the timing remains unpredictable.

It follows a long period where many babies have not been exposed to normal childhood viruses due to social distancing measures.

There is also article in the bbc saying it’s now spreading in young people, well surprise surprise when they are the only ones testing twice a week.

Nothing to do with the fact are the age group not vaccinated?

The stats I saw earlier or yesterday, can’t remember when, said spreading most in 5-12 and 18-24. Not secondary age which is where all this extra LFR testing is (supposed to be) going on. So your theory is bollocks.

@HazeyJaneII

So is this what 'DoThe Right Thing' means now?.... 'Don't Bother Doing The Right Thing If Someone Else Is Doing The Wrong Thing' I'll remember to teach my kids that nugget of morality.

Quite.

If your reaction to a group of kids blaming each other for catching a virus is to not test then you’re being daft. Those children need educating in how viruses work, ‘blame’ doesn’t come into it unless you knowingly ignore symptoms or actively go out of your way to avoid measures (like testing).

@Jennyfromtheculdesac agree. Also nothing to do with the fact that most grown-ups are not in classrooms of 30 little ones running around, not really expected to stick to social distancing rules