Anyone else not going to test children anymore

[Baileysforchristmas]

My daughter is 15, she said none of her friends are testing anymore. Why should I make her test twice a week now? All it will do is stop her going to school and us getting on with our lives, it will also stop her bubble going to school and she will get blamed. My daughter didn’t go to school for 3 months while flights were coming into the country from other parts of the world which could do as they please. Why should I take the risk of putting my daughter’s life on hold, also the more we test the more the numbers go up, Europe’s not testing secondary school children twice a week so obviously their numbers won’t be showing as high.

@Cornettoninja I can’t make other children test, if my child is the only one testing then it’s unfair, either everyone does it or it doesn’t work.

@Baileysforchristmas

It’s a very small minority of children who have been ill from Covid, your school sounds like it’s been very unlucky. There was a thread on here asking about long Covid in teens, hardly anyone replied, it would’ve lit up if there were huge amount of cases. The same with my daughter’s school, it would be all over the parent school Facebook, my wattsapp would’ve lit up. Which area are you *@0None0* ?

I’m in Hertfordshire. My school is closed, with dozens of cases. Most of our teenagers who tested positive have no symptoms, but I would estimate around 40% have symptoms and around 5% are seriously ill, as in bed for a week or more. We have 3 teens left permanently disabled as of last year

Wow that’s so unlucky, I don’t know any chid that’s been even slightly ill. I hope your school reopens soon.

[quote Baileysforchristmas]@Cornettoninja I can’t make other children test, if my child is the only one testing then it’s unfair, either everyone does it or it doesn’t work.[/quote]
No you can't make other children test, you can't make other people do anything....but YOU can do the right thing, and you can teach your children to do the right thing.
Nothing is fair.

[quote Baileysforchristmas]@Cornettoninja I can’t make other children test, if my child is the only one testing then it’s unfair, either everyone does it or it doesn’t work.[/quote]
Like giving the correct details to test and trace...

@HazeyJaneII I can’t make my child test and really is it worth all the bullying she would get ? The text I received from other parents was close to harassment last time and it wasn’t even my child who had a false positive.

@Baileysforchristmas but by your logic you’re giving into peer pressure. If your dc was the only one not smoking or drinking alcohol would you be off to the off-licence to grab them a four pack and twenty Marlborough lights so they could fit in?

Do what you want with regards to testing but I think your reasoning is weak.

Yes I agree I’ve given in to peer pressure I don’t want the hassle of it, it’s not worth it, I have no gain from it at all. I can’t make my daughter do a test either.

I think that it’s a shame you feel that way. Although, testing aside, I think it’s a symptom of a deeper problem in your community than just covid/isolating/testing etc. I appreciate there’s probably not a fat lot you can do about that but please don’t think that the harassment and pressure is uniform across the country because it’s not. The people you have contact with have overstepped boundaries massively and I don’t think they represent the majority of the population.

A 15 year old I'd expect to test twice a week.,it's uncomfortable but takes minutes.

It's not fair for the teaching staff or families possibly exposed especially with the new variant!

Primary children however shouldn't have to test unless symptomatic.

[quote Cornettoninja]@Baileysforchristmas but by your logic you’re giving into peer pressure. If your dc was the only one not smoking or drinking alcohol would you be off to the off-licence to grab them a four pack and twenty Marlborough lights so they could fit in?

Do what you want with regards to testing but I think your reasoning is weak.[/quote]
But you think it's fine to coerce and pressure a person, a 15-year-old, to do medical tests on her body she doesn't want. And drinking and smoking are illegal for a 15-year-old so in no way comparable to a voluntary test.

@Cornettoninja

I think that it’s a shame you feel that way. Although, testing aside, I think it’s a symptom of a deeper problem in your community than just covid/isolating/testing etc. I appreciate there’s probably not a fat lot you can do about that but please don’t think that the harassment and pressure is uniform across the country because it’s not. The people you have contact with have overstepped boundaries massively and I don’t think they represent the majority of the population.

Why presume to speak for the 'majority of the population'?

It was not on of them to send you those messages, but a lot of people and more and more have had enough of this.

If. Axed kept mounting as they are doing, I wonder if testing could become a condition of school attendance

@Leaveitonthefloordrobe

I do wish the tests weren't full of plastic. I understand the necessity of them, but I wince every time I throw all the paraphernalia in the bin. It feels like we took one step forward for covid and one step back for the environment.

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I would be happy if it was made mandatory as then everyone would be testing and no one would be singled out but I can’t see that happening

@0None0

If. Axed kept mounting as they are doing, I wonder if testing could become a condition of school attendance

It's almost as if you want people to have medical procedures on their bodies they don't want . Fortunately, we don't live in Gilead so even the vaccine won't be compulsory. I know some people find that so disappointing.

@osbertthesyrianhamster put your eyebrow down, I said ‘I think’ and in my experience it’s true. I don’t recognise the scenario at all, I believe it’s happening but I haven’t come across it personally or anecdotally from friends across the country.

As for ‘coercing’ anybody to have a test, where I have advocated that?!? A 15 year old is more than capable of deciding whether or not they want to test and the consequences of either decision. Letting other peoples reaction be the deciding factor wouldn’t be something I would choose to encourage in my own dd but then I don’t appear to be surrounded by people who take it upon themselves to harass people if they don’t like their choices. I’m sure everyone is pissed off when they get caught out by isolations, I am, but not everyone thinks it’s appropriate to start lashing out about it.

My point is the issue appears to be the surrounding community that’s the problem not the actual testing/isolating procedure. It’s a virus, there’s not a fat lot you can do about it once you’ve caught it so what’s the point in berating people for it?

It’s not an invasive medical procedure fgs. It’s a swab. The amount of fuss being made over a tiny little swab is utterly ridiculous. If you need to go into hospital for an actual medical procedure, and are told you can’t come in without an MRSA swab, what are you going h to do? Not attend? What’s the difference

@0None0

It’s not an invasive medical procedure fgs. It’s a swab. The amount of fuss being made over a tiny little swab is utterly ridiculous. If you need to go into hospital for an actual medical procedure, and are told you can’t come in without an MRSA swab, what are you going h to do? Not attend? What’s the difference

The difference is that you can choose. What's not a fuss to you is to someone else. For example, I find smear tests a doddle, others don't. I find dental work no big deal, others literally can't go. I don't mind jabs, others find them so much of an anathema that they will forgo medical treatment rather than have one. So no one is compelled to do so. Because we don't live in AirStrip One.

I never said I approved of the harassment, Cornetto. But people make decisions about their lives and their choices due to all sorts of factors and for the most part, one is not morally superior to another. Example, some people make huge decisions about their lives based on their religion. I find that peer pressure and mind-boggling, but I don't think I'm morally superior to them because of it.

I don’t really understand where the ‘morally superior’ bit comes from in this discussion but I think we actually broadly agree?

My point was entirely based on the fact that I don’t think anyone shouldn’t (or should) be randomly testing because of the reaction of people around them and I don’t think it’s a good lesson to teach a dc but I appreciate that’s easy for me to say because I’m not in that situation.

The OP has a difficult situation and mostly I’m trying, in a roundabout way, to point out that it’s not her in the wrong, it’s them. No matter what decision her and her dd make because it’s nothing to do with anyone else. Cases will continue to be identified and the same people could be asked to isolate at any point until that requirement changes.

15/06/2021 20:27 Watapalava

if unwell i'll keep them off like i do for cold and flu but i wont be testing and isolating. Vulnerable are vaccinated. Anyone left has minimal risk or has denied vaccine.

This statement isn’t true, my daughter is 12 CEV due to multiple disabilities and was shielding till recently. She is too young for the vaccine, she has three siblings all at mainstream school. In theory your asymptomatic child could mix with one of my children and the virus come to my home that way.

No you can’t choose. If you are having an operation and the hospital screens patients for MRSA, it isn’t a choice. You get tested or you don’t get admitted, end of.

Why is covid testing for schools different?

@0None0

No you can’t choose. If you are having an operation and the hospital screens patients for MRSA, it isn’t a choice. You get tested or you don’t get admitted, end of.

Why is covid testing for schools different?

No, not 'end of', you can ultimately chose to decline the medical treatment (barring emergencies/being unconscious). Wild hyperbole to compare mass testing in schools for Covid to an operation on an individual, but that seems to be your game.

Thankfully, you don't make the rules. Vaccines and the like have never been compulsory for pupils to obtain education at school and never will be, no matter how much you want to emulate Kim Jong-un, it's just not going to happen.

@Chailatteplease I don’t want to know if she’s positive or not if none of us have any symptoms, no one round us are poorly then what’s the point. I could’ve already had it and have spread it, who knows, no one in my daughters bubbles are testing, we don’t have to do it so we’re not going to do it anymore, it will spread anyway because people allowed to come in out of the country, so no I’m not having my life and my families life on hold anymore unless I really have to.

That’s utterly selfish.

Never done tests