Anyone else not going to test children anymore

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My daughter is 15, she said none of her friends are testing anymore. Why should I make her test twice a week now? All it will do is stop her going to school and us getting on with our lives, it will also stop her bubble going to school and she will get blamed. My daughter didn’t go to school for 3 months while flights were coming into the country from other parts of the world which could do as they please. Why should I take the risk of putting my daughter’s life on hold, also the more we test the more the numbers go up, Europe’s not testing secondary school children twice a week so obviously their numbers won’t be showing as high.

[quote BeingATwatItsABingThing]@SoSadAboutMyDad

Unless you know @CocoLady’s child in any way, I suggest you work on butting out.

My DD is 7 and really resilient and able to cope with lots of things. She has massive sensory issues though and doing the test really scares her even though she knows it’s going to be ok.[/quote]
Let’s hope she doesn’t need swabs to go into hospital for anything then else you’ll be stuck.

What you don’t seem to get is this. Schools are closing because students are not testing. It doesn’t matter what you want. Biology isn’t going to stop being biology because you don’t like it

@0None0

What you don’t seem to get is this. Schools are closing because students are not testing. It doesn’t matter what you want. Biology isn’t going to stop being biology because you don’t like it

It's you who seems to want everyone to do exactly as you want.

Weird.

Plenty of people have said there are no school closures in their areas.

it will spread anyway because people allowed to come in out of the country

You don’t really need the ‘people coming into the country’ bit, it’s a virus and will do its thing regardless.

There’s no compulsion to test in your circumstances so there’s no reason to influence anyone else’s choice 🤷‍♀️

Let’s hope she doesn’t need swabs to go into hospital for anything then else you’ll be stuck.

Oh wise one! How would you suggest I persuade my DD not to find it deeply upsetting?

Let’s hope she doesn’t need swabs to go into hospital for anything then hmm else you’ll be stuck.

What a shitty, nasty thing to write about a child. Would you similarly shame grown women who have issues round needles who become pregnant, need smear tests, etc.

Point is, the child's not having a fucking hospital test but offered a voluntary test.

@osbertthesyrianhamster. No you misunderstand how it works. It is not one person screened for one operation. It is everyone on a planned hospital admission, to prevent them being a danger to others. Exactly as screening in school works.

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Let’s hope she doesn’t need swabs to go into hospital for anything then hmm else you’ll be stuck.

What a shitty, nasty thing to write about a child. Would you similarly shame grown women who have issues round needles who become pregnant, need smear tests, etc.

Point is, the child's not having a fucking hospital test but offered a voluntary test.

I just make a point that there are lots of things in life that children don’t want to do or don’t like doing. Some find it harder than others due to issues etc. But by saying ‘well my child won’t do that’ you’re not really setting them up well for a life in society where they might have to do these things. The more sensible thing to do would be to practice doing it, little by little, until the child is able to cope with it. Then maybe we wouldn’t have adults with so many issues around things.

[quote 0None0]@osbertthesyrianhamster. No you misunderstand how it works. It is not one person screened for one operation. It is everyone on a planned hospital admission, to prevent them being a danger to others. Exactly as screening in school works.[/quote]
No, dear, you don't seem to understand it's not the same thing at all. Hospitals and surgery patients are ill and/or have open wounds.

Not the same as non-ill children going to school. No matter how much you want it to be in every one of your posts and threads. It's not going to be compulsory and nor will the vaccine (I was happy to have mine and my kids will be taking it up next month) or any vaccines. Because we don't live in that type of society and I for one am very glad.

@osbertthesyrianhamster. What I want is for schools to stay open.

Why. What do you want?

There are hundreds of schools currently closed or partially closed. There are thousands of staff and students I’ll. And that number is rising rapidly.

Because of people not bothering to test and use masks.

Unbelievably selfish.

I just make a point that there are lots of things in life that children don’t want to do or don’t like doing. Some find it harder than others due to issues etc. But by saying ‘well my child won’t do that’ you’re not really setting them up well for a life in society where they might have to do these things. The more sensible thing to do would be to practice doing it, little by little, until the child is able to cope with it. Then maybe we wouldn’t have adults with so many issues around things.

Totally ignorant of people with sensory processing disorders and autism.

There is not one school closed in my area out of 150, there are 4 weeks left until the end of term, hopefully the school will last until then, by September things will have changed hopefully for the better again.

I just make a point that there are lots of things in life that children don’t want to do or don’t like doing. Some find it harder than others due to issues etc. But by saying ‘well my child won’t do that’ you’re not really setting them up well for a life in society where they might have to do these things. The more sensible thing to do would be to practice doing it, little by little, until the child is able to cope with it. Then maybe we wouldn’t have adults with so many issues around things.

You don’t think I do this? There are many things that have to happen even though she doesn’t want to. She has all of her vaccinations even though they terrify her. She had her nails cut with DH pinning her down and me cutting them whilst she screamed for years. She finds it incredibly hard.

She has done several tests in the past and I will test her if she’s symptomatic but she’s 7 and there is no requirement for her to do twice weekly LFTs. DH and I both do though.

@osbertthesyrianhamster

I just make a point that there are lots of things in life that children don’t want to do or don’t like doing. Some find it harder than others due to issues etc. But by saying ‘well my child won’t do that’ you’re not really setting them up well for a life in society where they might have to do these things. The more sensible thing to do would be to practice doing it, little by little, until the child is able to cope with it. Then maybe we wouldn’t have adults with so many issues around things.

Totally ignorant of people with sensory processing disorders and autism.

Not really as my DSis has a child with autism. There are hundreds of things that cause him to have meltdown and he refuses to do. However, if she never works on those with him he will never be able to function independently in society. So she does, step by step, little by little.

So I would suggest that it is you who is ignorant.

You don't seem to want that at all, 0. That is very obvious in all your posts and threads.

No one really cares if you think they're selfish. Sad that you invest so much time emotional energy into people who don't know you and don't care.

It’s exactly the same thing. As is school TB screening, as is many forms of public screening for infectious disease.

School children are not a special, ultra privileged, mega entitled, made of spun glass group, who can’t possibly be expected to play their part in mass screening, when many of them would not even be d as live without successful mass screening gs in the past….

We are a society.. we don’t function unless everybody plays their part. And currently too few a can be bothered to put themselves out a tiny bit for the sake of anyone else. Hence, we are not functioning, and will continue to function less and less until something changes.

And when you are home educating again, just remember, it was your decisions that caused that for yourself and everyone else

@osbertthesyrianhamster

You don't seem to want that at all, 0. That is very obvious in all your posts and threads.

No one really cares if you think they're selfish. Sad that you invest so much time emotional energy into people who don't know you and don't care.

I’m not. I’m posting on a public forum where hundreds of parents will read it, understand, and resume testing and masks for their children.

And I will continue to do so, because it’s my contribution to this fight.

You, and your responses, are irrelevant, other than giving me the opportunity to expand on what I have said.

I think you will find countless thousands of parents do care very much

It’s exactly the same thing. As is school TB screening, as is many forms of public screening for infectious disease.

Not compulsory. It's not compulsory. You don't get that.

You think society is not functioning 😂😂😂 And that we're all going to be doooooommmeeedd. 😂😂😂 Talk about dramatic.

Haven't had to home educate. The school's not be closed except during lockdowns. We had special places even then.

You, and your responses, are irrelevant, other than giving me the opportunity to expand on what I have said.

Yet you keep tagging me in your own posts, which, incidentally go to a spam folder of mine. 😂😂😂

@osbertthesyrianhamster

It’s exactly the same thing. As is school TB screening, as is many forms of public screening for infectious disease.

Not compulsory. It's not compulsory. You don't get that.

You think society is not functioning 😂😂😂 And that we're all going to be doooooommmeeedd. 😂😂😂 Talk about dramatic.

Haven't had to home educate. The school's not be closed except during lockdowns. We had special places even then.

There are many situations in the uk when screening is mandatory. You may not be aware, but go and look it up and learn something.

I did not say society is not functioning. I said we are not functioning. We are a school. We are closed. Our children are at home. As are thousands and thousands of others across the country who’s schools are also not functioning.

As in ARE not functioning. Right now today.

And this is of very little relevance, but as it seems you only care about yourself and no o e else at all, maybe this might mean something to you.

There are no special places for vulnerable or key worker children this time round

There are many situations in the uk when screening is mandatory. You may not be aware, but go and look it up and learn something.

I don't have to. It's not compulsory in schools. I get that this bothers you. But that is too bad.

You really overuse the crying laughing emoji Osbert.

This thread has been eye opening for me. My son is in year 1 and has sensory issues. Someone in his bubble tested positive and the whole year was sent home. They've been told they'll need a negative LFT before they go back. We did one today, to prepare him essentially, and I got him to do one on me (obviously not accurately due to him shoving the swab down the back of my throat) but honestly he screamed the entire time when it was his turn. It was awful. But he'll do it again to go back to school. However, if it wasn't necessary I wouldn't be making him do it again. If he had symptoms that would be different.

@HazeyJaneII

You really overuse the crying laughing emoji Osbert.

This is my bothered face. 😂

Do one on yourself and send that in, NC.

What a dumb thread. Next!