Page 8 | Does the anti vax drama affect you?

SprayedWithDettol · 08/06/2021 21:21

Having worked in the pharmaceutical industry, with a husband and many friends who still do (some on one of the vaccines, some on therapies ) I find these attitudes no longer funny. People I love are working 12/14 + hours a day to save lives.
And yes, we have all been vaccinated.

workwoes123 · 09/06/2021 06:52

Honestly? no it hasn’t / doesn’t. I haven’t seen a single anti vax video, and I spend (too much) a lot of time on my little corners of Twitter and Facebook.

Anti-vax aside, it’s a good reminder of how differently we all now experience the world thanks to social media algorithms. For you, there are anti vaxxers and their scary ideas all over social media. For me, they do not exist.

Hippymama · 09/06/2021 12:23

I'm not antivax, but I have not have had the jab. I have actually had covid and the evidence suggests that I will now have antibodies. With this in mind, I've chosen not to have the vax at this time. I'm not ruling out ever having the vax, just at this time as I already have antibodies. I don't tell people of my decision in real life as you get lumped in with the tin foil hat brigade.

sleepwouldbenice · 09/06/2021 12:26

Might help you feel better to know how not vaccine hesitant we are, to counter act the crap you see!

www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1439

Hippymama · 09/06/2021 13:29

I've been thinking about this whilst pottering about. The group of people who have posted on social media that have done the most to make me hesitant about the vaccine have been those who have actually had the vaccine.

This week alone I have seen posts (from people I actually know personally) from 2 people who have been treated for blood clots, 1 person who has developed a strange bruised rash and 1 person whose 40 year old husband has died from a stroke, all within a week of their vaccination. I've also seen countless posts from people reporting weird menstrual periods (either bleeding heavier than usual, or for longer), side effects that have left them feeling ill enough to have to go to bed, etc. Obviously this is anecdata, but I don't normally see my friends posting about these things, so it has given me cause to pause.

I fully support people's right to choose, if people want to have the vaccine that is their choice, as it should be mine not to have it. I've had covid. Yes, I felt a bit crappy and I wouldn't want it again, but on balance I'd prefer to take my chances with the antibodies I now have after having it. I might change my mind in the future, but at the moment I won't be having it.

Sunshinegirl82 · 09/06/2021 17:32

Looks like the 20s to 30s aren't particularly resistant to getting vaccinated if this is anything to go by which is fantastic news!

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-young-people-step-forward-for-coronavirus-vaccine-in-record-numbers-12328655

Parker231 · 09/06/2021 17:37

Just read the article - 1m people made appointments yesterday - what a great record. Good to have some positive news.

MareofBeasttown · 09/06/2021 17:59

Great news indeed. I hope this continues.

bruffin · 09/06/2021 18:16

Looks like the 20s to 30s aren't particularly resistant to getting vaccinated if this is anything to go by which is fantastic news!

My ds is 25 and was in the online queue first thing, but looked like there was going to be a problem but got his by afternoon. My DD 23 has already had hers because she is a vaccinator

pinkearedcow · 09/06/2021 18:52

@Hippymama

I've been thinking about this whilst pottering about. The group of people who have posted on social media that have done the most to make me hesitant about the vaccine have been those who have actually had the vaccine.

This week alone I have seen posts (from people I actually know personally) from 2 people who have been treated for blood clots, 1 person who has developed a strange bruised rash and 1 person whose 40 year old husband has died from a stroke, all within a week of their vaccination. I've also seen countless posts from people reporting weird menstrual periods (either bleeding heavier than usual, or for longer), side effects that have left them feeling ill enough to have to go to bed, etc. Obviously this is anecdata, but I don't normally see my friends posting about these things, so it has given me cause to pause.

I fully support people's right to choose, if people want to have the vaccine that is their choice, as it should be mine not to have it. I've had covid. Yes, I felt a bit crappy and I wouldn't want it again, but on balance I'd prefer to take my chances with the antibodies I now have after having it. I might change my mind in the future, but at the moment I won't be having it.

I know dozens and dozens of people who have had the vaccination and not a single one has had any sort of side effect other than a few feeling a bit flu-y. Your friends must be very unlucky or possibly all suffer from ill health that is nothing to do with the vaccine? There is another poster on here who seems to have a similarly unlucky group of co-workers. 'Tis v strange.

Hippymama · 09/06/2021 19:08

It does look as though some of them have been very unlucky as these clots and strokes are said to be rare, yet I know a number of people who have suffered them. None of them were in ill health before. Tis v. strange indeed.

pinkearedcow · 09/06/2021 19:19

@Hippymama

It does look as though some of them have been very unlucky as these clots and strokes are said to be rare, yet I know a number of people who have suffered them. None of them were in ill health before. Tis v. strange indeed.

Up to 26 May there were 348 reports of people developing rare blood clots which were linked to low platelet levels after receiving a first dose of the Oxford/ AstraZeneca vaccine in the UK.

Blood clots after the vaccine are rare. These 348 cases of blood clots are after over 37.7 million total doses of the vaccine. Of the 348 people who developed blood clots, 61 died.

There have been a very small number of reports of young adults (under 45) having a stroke within a month of having the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

For you to know a number of these people is quite astonishing really.

www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine

Hippymama · 09/06/2021 19:28

Who said they were all in the UK? I also said that these are things I've seen people saying in the last week, so after the 26th May.

Justa47 · 09/06/2021 19:35

@Onthegrapevine

Anti vaccine people are sick selfish excuses for members of the community and all their vile videos of unscientific lies should be reported to the platforms housing them.

And they should be ashamed for the harm they cause.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 09/06/2021 19:37

You know a lot of very unlucky people @Hippymama

June2021 · 09/06/2021 19:41

@Hippymama

It does look as though some of them have been very unlucky as these clots and strokes are said to be rare, yet I know a number of people who have suffered them. None of them were in ill health before. Tis v. strange indeed.

Yes very strange 🤔

Hippymama · 09/06/2021 20:03

If people want to get the vaccine, then I fully support their choice to do that. It's just not for me (at this time). It may be that the people I know have just been extremely unlucky, or that the reactions they suffered were unrelated to having recently had the vaccine. Seeing people I know talking about having had reactions and the fact that my local newspaper has printed stories this week about 2 separate local women who have died of clots, I would prefer to wait.

I have had covid. I was unwell, but not seriously so. I now have antibodies. The chances of me getting covid again are pretty small, so I'd prefer to take that chance rather than having the vaccine at this time. If I had not already had covid, I might feel differently.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 09/06/2021 20:07

I don't personally know anyone at all who has suffered serious side effects from any vaccinations.

TheLovelinessOfDemons · 09/06/2021 20:10

I feel very anxious. I have a terminally ill adult son who hasn't been allowed by his hospital to leave his house since March 2020. I just want it to be over so he can lead a normal life again, and I know he misses me and his siblings.

User135644 · 09/06/2021 20:20

I've seen some of the anti-vax crowd on social media making a big deal of the 80% with anti-bodies stat and how we must now open up.

Why do they think that is? It's vaccines that will get us out of this mess.

Chippingbird23 · 11/06/2021 13:06

@Onthegrapevine

I am seeing more and more videos surfacing from anti vax folk along laughing and joking about the vaccinated being dead within the year amongst other things.

When the conspiracy theories started when there was first talk of a vaccine I honestly laughed it off, but over a year in and now I’m double jabbed it’s getting to me.

It feels like such a divide between “us and them.” Some anti vax are now claiming they are looking to “protect people” and that’s why they are “educating us.”

Prior to Covid I was aware of the conspiracy theories surrounding the flu jab etc, my own midwife even said she was “on the fence” about the flu jab when I asked when I should have mine. But those conspiracies were very sporadic and I didn’t feel bombarded with them in the way I do covid.

These are so loud, and they are everywhere.

Is anyone else feeling the same?

I’m not anti vax and had all mine plus kids but this one I will not have until further long term studies are done. I truly don’t think people will be dead within a year that’s pretty terrible thing to say but to be honest no one knows the longer term effects. Why call them conspiracy theories ? plenty of medical professionals not happy with the way this one as rolled out quickly?

Parker231 · 11/06/2021 13:13

For those who think we should wait before having the vaccination, what are your suggestions for managing the pandemic and preventing further deaths?