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Pfizer approved for 12-15 year olds

232 replies

LimeAndLemons · 04/06/2021 11:22

Just seen this.
The UK regulator has said the benefits outweigh the risks in giving it to 12-15yo.

Would you let your child have it? I'm very conflicted on this.

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LedByFools · 04/06/2021 15:17

My DC is older teen and has had it already.

Just want education to get back to normal. At some point soon, the government is going to have to admit that vaccinated people transmit covid much less than unvaccinated and free vaccinated people from 10 days isolation with a negative test and zero symptoms.

UK children have missed more school than anywhere equivalent in the world - reported yesterday (hence outrage at measly catch-up scheme). It is time to give some priority to the pupils and ensure they can stay in school with more certainty and less impact on their education and long-term prospects.

nonono1 · 04/06/2021 15:21

If my child was 12-15 I might consider it. If they approve it for toddlers (my DC’s age group) then there’s no way I would let them have it. The risk presented by Covid to a toddler is absolutely minuscule and the long term effects of the vaccine are not known.

BillieSpain · 04/06/2021 15:21

Absolutely not.

However...
DD is 13 and will make up her own mind when she reads all the data. But she is an intelligent child and thinks other countries need the elderly vaccinated first.

She already has had Covid.

speckledostrichegg · 04/06/2021 15:24

The risk presented by Covid to a toddler is absolutely minuscule and the long term effects of the vaccine are not known.**@nonono1

Equally the long term effects of COVID infection are also not known

BillieSpain · 04/06/2021 15:24

In Spain, DD has not missed a day of school. It all has continued as normal, except for 3 months of zoom lessons at the very beginning.

I just want to visit my sister, which I can't, other than that, life is pretty normal here.

nonono1 · 04/06/2021 15:26

It's effectively child abuse to deny them this protection.

Hardly. Why should I consent to my child being vaccinated with a jab where the long term side effects are unknown?

nonono1 · 04/06/2021 15:27

By the time my DC are 12-15 we will have had 10 years to study the side effects, so I will be more confident (or not!) by the time they are eligible.

BillieSpain · 04/06/2021 15:28

Child abuse Grin

nonono1 · 04/06/2021 15:30

Equally the long term effects of COVID infection are also not known

But the chances of them catching Covid snd getting seriously ill are absolutely minute. I’ve had the vaccine and am happy to take my chances, but I won’t do that with my DC.

Watapalava · 04/06/2021 15:31

Healthy adults have died with vaccine

Both AZ and Pfizer - that we know and whilst very very low it has happened

No healthy uk child has died in that age group. So presuming the vaccine causes similar ‘known’ side affects (that was wording today) then even if one child died of the vaccine then it’s a risk too much surely

Hi W can they say benefits outweigh risk when there no risk?

If there’s even a tiny tiny chance of adults dying with vaccine why do people think teens won’t also have that tiny tiny chance?

The vaccine isn’t covid

Just because teens don’t die of covid doesn’t mean they won’t see same risk with vaccine no matter how tiny

I’ve had both AZ but no kids my dds age have died so why give them even 1:million chance of blood clot or death? Whatever the stat is, it’s greater than the current practically zero risk of covid death

YawnyOwl · 04/06/2021 15:32

God no! Why would I? Haven't had it myself and won't. Don't see the need or point

speckledostrichegg · 04/06/2021 15:35

@nonono1

Equally the long term effects of COVID infection are also not known

But the chances of them catching Covid snd getting seriously ill are absolutely minute. I’ve had the vaccine and am happy to take my chances, but I won’t do that with my DC.

Yup definitely, but the hypothetical long term effects of COVID don't necessarily correlate with how severe the initial infection was
roguetomato · 04/06/2021 15:38

@BillieSpain

Absolutely not.

However...
DD is 13 and will make up her own mind when she reads all the data. But she is an intelligent child and thinks other countries need the elderly vaccinated first.

She already has had Covid.

But the thing is, one child eligible for vaccine in UK declining because they think the elderly in other country needs the vaccine first doesn't change the odds of elderly in other country getting the vaccine quicker. I think intelligent child would choose to get vaccinated so they can contribute to reduce the spread of virus in their own country so the country can go back to normal as quick as possible.
BillieSpain · 04/06/2021 15:46

I'm in Spain, I think we are coping much better then Britain. She's had Covid.

She has not missed a day of school for a year (thanks to the masks and hygiene)

It's pretty much normal where we live. I just want to travel to UK and can't!

UberMullet · 04/06/2021 15:53

Dd 17 has had both Pfizer jabs. Very happily.

Turquoisesea · 04/06/2021 15:55

There is no way I would let my teens have this. Like others have said, there have been quite a few deaths / issues in younger people who have been vaccinated. I don’t believe Covid is a risk to my DCs and I’m not prepared to use them as guinea pigs to protect other people. I’ve had both jabs but I’m 51 so my risk of Covid is a lot more than there’s. FWIW I know lots of people who have had Covid (including my 85 year old DM) none of whom have been hospitalised or have long Covid. I’m prepared to take the potential risk of vaccine for myself but not for my DCs.

LovelyLadyLily · 04/06/2021 15:59

Absolutely not under any circumstances.

There is no long-term safety data for this (obviously). Nobody has had this vaccine and then gone through puberty/become fertile. It's even a new technology, not just a new vaccine. And as for:

The UK regulator has said the benefits outweigh the risks in giving it to 12-15yo.

This is bull. There aren't any benefits for kids as they don't get very sick (if at all).

LovelyLadyLily · 04/06/2021 16:01

And of course there's the link between Pfizer and heart inflammation.

UnicornMadeOfPinkGlitter · 04/06/2021 16:05

Dd is 15 and my youngest. I’ve spoken to her about it today and she’s said she doesn’t want it. Whilst I think that is the wrong decision at 15 she’s old enough to choose if she wants it or not.
If it means she can’t go on holiday next year or to the summer festivals she may change her mind.

bunny85 · 04/06/2021 16:24

Thankfully my children are much younger but if they were over 12 I wouldn't let them have the vaccine. They say 'benefits of having it outweigh the risk for teenagers' but I'm struggling to understand how it can possibly be the case if their are far from being a risk group for COVID complications?? This age group hardly has any noticeable effects of it at all as they claim themselves! It's no different to a common cold for the vast majority. I find it very puzzling indeed...

Dustyboots · 04/06/2021 16:29

*Healthy adults have died with vaccine

Both AZ and Pfizer - that we know and whilst very very low it has happened

No healthy uk child has died in that age group. So presuming the vaccine causes similar ‘known’ side affects (that was wording today) then even if one child died of the vaccine then it’s a risk too much surely

Hi W can they say benefits outweigh risk when there no risk?

If there’s even a tiny tiny chance of adults dying with vaccine why do people think teens won’t also have that tiny tiny chance?

The vaccine isn’t covid

Just because teens don’t die of covid doesn’t mean they won’t see same risk with vaccine no matter how tiny

I’ve had both AZ but no kids my dds age have died so why give them even 1:million chance of blood clot or death? Whatever the stat is, it’s greater than the current practically zero risk of covid death*

Sorry to cut and paste - but all the points I want to make but just can't - I can't put into words how horrified I feel about kids being vaccinated for Covid ... well it's all in the copy and paste above.

Dustyboots · 04/06/2021 16:31

If it means she can’t go on holiday next year or to the summer festivals she may change her mind.

Blimey @UnicornMadeOfPinkGlitter

UserEleventyNine · 04/06/2021 16:31

if they were over 12 I wouldn't let them have the vaccine.

If they were over twelve it might not be up to you. Teenagers can consent to, or refuse, medical treatment for themselves.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 04/06/2021 16:56

Mine have had it, as have the vast majority of their friends.

It's great watching their lives return to normal.

bellinisurge · 04/06/2021 17:00

As long as it's been approved, I would encourage (bribe) my needle-adverse daughter to get it.

Both of us have had both jabs. As have her grandparents. Covid may not affect the young too badly but they can carry it and infect others.