Hate the pressure for vaccinating

[Itsnotyourchoiceanymore]

Went to the appointment- got out of the car-stood in line, couldn’t breath, lightheaded started shaking uncontrollably and crying. Ran back to the car and came back home- I’ve failed again at this.
And I went thinking this is the last time I’ll see my daughter so come what may- still didn’t work

Now I have to call and book again but my heart beat is so high that I cannot stand up or sit up

From the NHS Salford Clinical Commissioning Group, for a bit of context (hopefully the infographic works)

[quote Itsnotyourchoiceanymore]@Endofether no I don’t want to but feel I have to[/quote]
Don’t have it then.

Just tell those hassling you that you have?

Dh family are being a nightmare to him as he isn’t having it (we both had Covid mildly previously) / they are literally harassing him !

Just hold off if you’re unsure - wait to see what other side effects emerge !

Just tell those hassling you that you have?

OP hasn't actually specified if it's her own pressure on herself or outside pressure.

Just had my second vaccination. Feeling great. OP, we'll reach herd immunity without you. Just leave it and carry on with mask and distancing.

Personally I think it's best to just make a decision and stick with it. Either way, I agree with saying you have had it regardless. There is nothing to be gained by saying you have not had the vaccine, certainly in the current climate.

This is anxiety talking op - surely if you don’t have the vaccine your anxiety will fix on what will happen when you eventually get Covid?

What about asking the doc for something medicinal to chill you out just to get the vaccine done?

@AbjectHorror we are all entitled to our opinions, even if they don’t align with your personal views.

I don't think it's fair on others to say you've had a vaccination when you haven't. People need to be honest and transparent. If the OP doesn't want it, so be it. If her family members want to reassess their interactions with her, so be it.

@MrsTerryPratchett

Just tell those hassling you that you have?

OP hasn't actually specified if it's her own pressure on herself or outside pressure.

She said in her other thread that family members were pressurising her I think.

If people ask me whether I’ve had it, I just say yes and move on. I’m not getting it. There’s nowhere near enough evidence of the risks involved and the blood clot issue was not even known before they started giving it to people. You’re gambling with your health by taking it and you have no recourse if it turns out to be really harmful. It’s got nothing to do with anyone else whether an individual gets it and I’m uninterested in appeals about herd immunity. Any immunity seems to be pretty short lived anyway so are people going to be signing up for long-term jabbing every time it mutates?
OP, lie to others if it gets them off your back. If you want it, have it. If you’re worried, don’t. Bodily autonomy is a wonderful thing.

@Leanandmean31

If people ask me whether I’ve had it, I just say yes and move on. I’m not getting it. There’s nowhere near enough evidence of the risks involved and the blood clot issue was not even known before they started giving it to people. You’re gambling with your health by taking it and you have no recourse if it turns out to be really harmful. It’s got nothing to do with anyone else whether an individual gets it and I’m uninterested in appeals about herd immunity. Any immunity seems to be pretty short lived anyway so are people going to be signing up for long-term jabbing every time it mutates? OP, lie to others if it gets them off your back. If you want it, have it. If you’re worried, don’t. Bodily autonomy is a wonderful thing.

Very well said !

If I found out someone I was associating with told me they'd had it when they hadn't I would be reassessing my contact with them. I'd wonder what else they were prepared to lie about.
My niece should be vaccinated very soon but I know my ECV sister and brother in law aren't prepared to meet up with her indoors until she is.

I remember your other thread, OP... where you said you don't want the vaccine and family were pressuring you.

You don't have to have it if you don't want to. As another poster said, learn some skills to be more assertive and feel able to stand up to people pressing you.

Pushing yourself sounds like it is doing you more harm than good.

@ilovesooty

If I found out someone I was associating with told me they'd had it when they hadn't I would be reassessing my contact with them. I'd wonder what else they were prepared to lie about. My niece should be vaccinated very soon but I know my ECV sister and brother in law aren't prepared to meet up with her indoors until she is.

I suspect based on posts like this there will be a lot of people on all sides of this debate reassessing their friends and acquaintances. Personally, I won't be associating with people who try pressure others to have the vaccine. I absolutely respect the right of anybody to make their own decision on this and not be judgemental. I think we all should.

@ilovesooty

If I found out someone I was associating with told me they'd had it when they hadn't I would be reassessing my contact with them. I'd wonder what else they were prepared to lie about. My niece should be vaccinated very soon but I know my ECV sister and brother in law aren't prepared to meet up with her indoors until she is.

If your relatives have been vaccinated, apparently they will be protected from the worst effects of Covid so mixing with an unvaccinated person isn’t going to be massively dangerous. Nor does the vaccination stop a vaccinated person passing the virus on. I would probably also reassess a friendship where someone felt it was okay to demand to know my personal medical decisions. I think ‘you do you’ would be a good motto in all this.

I didn't say I was going to ask anyone's personal details or pressurise them. I just don't care to associate with liars.
If my unwell Type 1 diabetic sister and my brother in law who's had a quadruple heart bypass don't want to put themselves at risk I'd say that's their business. My niece is in a customer facing role and wouldn't want to put her parents at risk either.

I believe you’re only 40.

Have you called around to find out if centres offering other vaccine options would have you?

Would you feel better with Pfizer rather than AZ? Your doctor may be sympathetic and help you have your preferred one if you explain.

If they dont want to take a vaccine that is fine. Their choice but they cannot then also expect everything to be opened to them as though they have.

And I wouldnt invite or want to mix with someone who CHOSE not to have a vaccine.

@Franklin12

If they dont want to take a vaccine that is fine. Their choice but they cannot then also expect everything to be opened to them as though they have.

And I wouldnt invite or want to mix with someone who CHOSE not to have a vaccine.

But things will be open. Domestic vaccine passports are not happening.

Ring your gp, the practice nurse is your best bet, they are lovely

I would just not have it if l was you.
I had pizer in December and February. Got it first because l work in a care home. I don't care if people are not vacinated. In fact it's not conversation l ever have. Just leave it for a year. Lie to people who ask you. It's a mild illness for most.

Could you find out if the vaccine centre is doing Pfizer? I think most are now for 1st vaccinations as they're mainly vaccinating under 40s. There's a tiny, tiny risk of clots with AZ - I believe it's even lower with Pfizer (hence the change).

Also, the biggest risk to your health and well-being at the moment doesn't seem to be a Covid, still less the vaccination, but acute anxiety... Having had episodes of anxiety myself, it's not pleasant and can run you down and lower your immunity generally. If I was to advise any health intervention, it would be for that, as it's impacting significantly on your daily life.

Finally, don't be too hard on yourself. At the end of the day, not being vaccinated isn't thing in the world.

It's pretty sad you are feeling pressurised into medical treatment. Whatever you decide, it must be a decision you feel you could stand and justify to yourself it the worst happened ie. if you got a very bad side effect or if you caught Covid. I'm not going to take the vaccine, at least until there is more long term evidence, and if I got Covid I know honestly that I'd still feel I made the best decision for myself at the time. Obviously I'd wish I wasn't ill but I'd feel I was just unlucky. If I got a terrible side effect I know I'd struggle to feel at peace with my mistake. This is a good way to make lots of difficult decisions; usually people will know which scenario they could best justify to their future self.

I think it would also help to chat to a sympathetic friend who doesn't dismiss your worries outright.

[quote Itsnotyourchoiceanymore]@Endofether no I don’t want to but feel I have to[/quote]
Don't do it if you don't want to. As others said though, stop wasting appointments and just own it.
FWIW I was in such a state at the thought of blood clots for about three days and then forgot about them as the after effects of the vaccine wore off. Truthfully, having had covid, four weeks of full on anxiety is far superior to the fear of dying from the virus or being hospitalised - which I would imagine I would have been had the hospitals not been so full they couldn't take any more people in - especially after I was diagnosed with pneumonia having gone rapidly downhill fast. (I'm 39 and got the vaccine the day they said under 40s could be offered alternatives).
How are you feeling about covid OP - anxiety wise?