Are you one of the people who is very very reluctantly going to get vaccinated?

[Itsnotyourchoiceanymore]

Could you please tell me how you are managing the stress/anxiety surrounding it? I don’t want this vaccine- but I’m being forced to go for it. I’m so worried nervous that I cannot sleep properly.I need to book the bloody thing soon but I just cannot bring myself to do it..I’m 40 so not sure which one I’ll get.

I see Fuellmich has been mentioned... his claims have been debunked a number of times, and after hearing speak he doesn't have a very convincing case. There does need to be investigations and answers into the handling of the pandemic, but the way Fuellmich is approaching it isn't (IMO) going to do that. The real issue is the way it was handled, not whether the tested vaccines have microchips in them or are altering our DNA.

Full fact have covered some of the claims about Covid and the vaccine. This is a good one about why the comparison to the Nuremberg trials isn't right:

fullfact.org/health/nuremberg-code-covid/

And the risk of dying from the vaccine is explored here:

fullfact.org/online/risk-children-death-covid/

There is so much information out there it can be difficult to understand what is reliable and what is made up, twisted or just batshit conspiracies. Full fact is a great resource on lots of topics, a simple search will find lots of reliable info.

No one is being forced to have the vaccine, but the reasons for not having it are more often than not illogical. It will be interesting to see how it plays out through the courts around jobs requiring a vaccine (eg. Care homes saying staff need the vaccine) and 'vaccine passports' for travel and events, there are existing requirements for similar, like needing vaccines to travel to certain countries so it's not unprecedented but at this stage I wouldn't like to guess which way this will go.

I'm not sure we should be giving oxygen to anyone who makes any connection between nazi war crimes and public health authorities recommending vaccines. That is just disgusting.

We have a choice: we get vaccinated or we stay locked down or we overwhelm the NHS. Covid isnt just going to go away. I know what i prefer. A year ago we all prayed for a vaccine now its all drama over which one to have. Suspect those in poor countries would like this dilemma...

My generation is looking on in amazement at the ridiculous posturing of some under 40s about simply getting a bloody vaccine!
If my lot had reacted like this, we would still be dealing with smallpox and polio epidemics.
Are three million deaths worldwide not enough? How many more will it take to convince you to play your part in stopping this pandemic?
Your risk of harm from the vaccine is infinitesimal compared to the risks of death or long Covid disability, not to mention the utter disruption to the NHS of dealing with the fallout of people’s refusal to be vaccinated.
Many people are going to die needlessly of cancer, due to diagnostic and treatment delays while staff are diverted to covid wards. Many people’s mental health will deteriorate to suicidal levels during the lockdowns required to deal with covid in unvaccinated people.

It’s not a big ask. Please - just get the damn vaccine, and stop with the silly showboating.

Absolutely it should be people’s own choice, and it is people’s own choice, but part of making that choice is acknowledging you are making it!

So if you choose not to have it, okay that’s your choice. You can’t control whether people at your work or people on Mumsnet think it was the wrong choice, but that doesn’t stop it being your choice. You can’t say “it only counts as my choice if nobody ever expressed any views about whether it’s a good thing or not.” They get to have those views, and you get to make your choice.

If you choose to have it, then okay, that’s your choice. So you are making it. You are not being frogmarched to the vaccine centre, you are choosing to go. You can’t say “yes I will get the vaccine, but also I would like you to put on record that I don’t agree to this and you’re making me. What, leave? Oh no I’m not going to leave, I’m still going to get the vaccine. But you’re making me.”

It is your choice. Not everyone’s going to agree with what you choose, but so what? It’s your body, it’s your choice, just make it and own it and move on.

@Swimbikerunmummy Now I am devastated I didn’t follow my gut

Can I ask why you are devastated you have had the vaccine ?

My generation is looking on in amazement at the ridiculous posturing of some under 40s about simply getting a bloody vaccine!

Remind your generation that most under-40s are willing to get it and not making any sort of a fuss about it then? Maybe they’ll feel better knowing that.

Your choice, op. I hope you aren't getting in a car to go anywhere as that is much much riskier than the vaccine. Far more killed on the roads than harmed by the vaccine.

You probably won't end up on a ventilator if you get covid. It comes with a reasonable risk of complications, including long term fatigue and blood clots.

Basic risk assessment.

@MarshaBradyo

Also consider Israel and no new variants

And Wales data as high uptake

Vaccination is working well to do what it has to, if everyone got too anxious we’d be in trouble

That's also down to very strict border controls, tracing and isolation and the big one, they didn't ease restrictions until 70% fully vaccinated, we are doing it at 45% or plan too!

The OP is fully entitled not to be vaccinated if she doesn't want too, no ones choice but her own.

The OP is fully entitled not to be vaccinated if she doesn't want too, no ones choice but her own.

Yes we know all about these choices. Not many have said otherwise.

No denying vaccines work better the more that have it.

and the big one, they didn't ease restrictions until 70% fully vaccinated, we are doing it at 45% or plan too!

That’s not right, Israel doesn’t have 70% fully vaccinated even now.

Your choice, op. I hope you aren't getting in a car to go anywhere as that is much much riskier than the vaccine. Far more killed on the roads than harmed by the vaccine.

This is a daft argument (and I’m massively pro vaccination). Most of us need to use our cars every day. Most of us will drive to the vaccination centre. Choosing to be vaccinated comes with an extra (very, very small risk) on top of daily life. It also reduces the risk that you will have complications from covid. Those are the things that need to be balanced. Banging on about the risk from driving isn’t going to persuade anyone.

As Babdoc says we’d be stuck in this cycle a long time, a few can opt out and hopefully not slow it. Hopefully they’ve got their risk assessment right

Anyone planning on drinking heavily the night before - don't!

I did (not because of fear of the vaccine - I was just socialising) and my god, I felt horrendous. Never had a hangover like it.

I am pro vaccination but also pro choice. I think trying to force a point of view down someone's throat is counterproductive and that is also what the experts say.

The experts also say when researching vaccines, go to official resources. I dont think threads like this are helpful in informed decision making.

Me

I went and had it done and I wish i didn't and waited

The thing is, that deciding not to take a vaccine is a privileged position.

You can make that decision for yourself safe in the knowledge that most others are getting a vaccine and so overall the covid crisis is reducing. If everyone made that decision, we would be seeing scenes in the UK like those tragic scenes from India a few weeks ago.

It also increases the danger for people like my son who have good reasons to not be able to be vaccinated (has already had a life threatening platelet crash from a flu vaccine) but whose dodgy blood also puts him at high risk of blood clots from covid. If it were up to me every one of the worried well or conspiracy theorists would have to explain to kids like my 15 year old why the infinitesimally small risk to them of taking a vaccine that is not AZ is more important than protecting kids like him from exposure to high levels of circulating covid.

I think I am slowly acclimatizing to the idea after so many relatives who have had it and experienced little or no side effects. Of course, no matter what anyone says, no one knows yet what long-term negative side affects might be. I won't have it until I feel 100% sure, though.

I am in the same position as you and honestly it's suffocating. I'm holding out as long as i can.

Hi OP for me one of the most dismal things about the whole pandemic has been the loss of proper debate, discussion and free speech and the bullying nature of the 'Groupthink' that has emerged. Government and society coercion and control is the norm at the moment, god-help anyone who expresses a slightly differing view - they are shot down, labelled as selfish, Covid-deniers, anti-vaxxers, whatever. I also feel that I have lost my ability to make accurate judgements we are fed statistics and information that suit the narrative ...

I am vaccinated but only because it was Pfizer on the day I went to the centre. If it had been AZ i would've walked out. I was very worried about in the lead up to my vaccination because of the AZ blood clot link and found it stressful because most people thought I was being stupid. For me the chance of fatal or catastrophic life changing stroke is worse than thought of catching Covid. I don't buy into the fear of long-covid because I have seen other friends and family having similar symptoms for months after other (non-specified) viruses and being told by the same medical professionals to just get on with it.

@whymewhyme yes it is suffocating- and given that I’ve always had all the vaccines and made sure my daughter did as well....something doesn’t feel right about this one

How much protection will i have if I had a mild mild dose of covid last march - then had my jab end of March this year but not get another jab?

I live overseas and it is going to be made compulsory (in government sector it already is).

I'm holding out for as long as I can hit absolutely dreading it.

You are not alone OP.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Natural infection also confers immunity. It’s not a ‘vaccine or nothing’ scenario.

We don't know how long natural immunity lasts.

Getting the vaccine as well is a good idea.