Will you spend time with partially / un vaccinated people?

[roseyroses]

I have severe health anxiety and after a conversation with my Dr this morning I have decided against my second Covid Jab.

I had my first AZ but I’m severely anxious about my second one and it’s really interfering with my work / home life.

I don’t want this to get in the way of being able to spend time with friends or family (who will be fully vaccinated)

I have a small child and I want to be able to arrange plat dates and days out by I’m afraid people won’t want to be around me if I’ve only had one vaccine.

No, I will not be asking. Would you ask everyone in a bus/supermarket/shop/high street around you whether they are vaxxed or not?

Not in itself, no. But if it's a visible manifestation of anti vax nonsense, then no. I don't spend time with people whose views I disdain so strongly.

You're far more at risk not having both doses, you've had one so to refuse the 2nd dose does seem a bit irrational but it's your choice.
I've worked constantly throughout the pandemic so I couldn't care less if you're vaccinated or not as I really wouldn't consider you a risk.
However YOU are potentially more at risk without that 2nd dose.

Also I do not ask people whom I meet in the supermarket and on the bus if they are vaccinated, but they are all masked, so wrong analogy, in my opinion. I am obviously going to be more careful abt whom I meet indoors and unmasked.

I would be wary of you only until all my family is vaccinated twice (end of summer?). I mean, i intend to keep up precautions until then anyway. Then I would not care. It's your choice and largely your risk.

I don't care what other people do. I'm not that worried about catching it myself, had the jab to help other people.

This is just another arm of your anxiety OP. I am not sure posting here is helpful for someone with health anxiety. I honestly think you would be better overall not posting and therefore not obsessing over having / not having the vaccine and the possible ramifications of whatever decision you made.

For what it's worth it would not matter to me if someone was vaccinated and I generally would have no cause to know or ask.

Being unvaccinated or incompletely vaccinated is not the same as being high risk. I'd be wary spending too much time around someone that wasn't vaccinated and worked in a high risk frontline health role. But someone with just one vaccine in a low risk role has still got quite a lot of protection.

The antivaxxers seem to be the most discriminating against others.
Yesterday I came across the first campsite run by an antivaxxer who's decided to refuse bookings from those that have been vaccinated based on the myths around "experimental vaccine" and "shedding". They they're also great solar minimum believers is no surprise.

Have you considered how you will engage with booster vaccines for new and emerging variants in the future?

I think you are very much mistaken about not having your 2nd. Very misguided indeed.

I've had both. I don't mind if anyone hasn't had their 2nd if they are just waiting fir the 2nd date.

The Covid vaccine is different from other vaccines as it doesn’t necessarily stop you getting it and spreading it; it’s more to do with limiting the severity of the disease if you catch it

Thats how all vaccines work. They 'train' your immune system to recognise and fight a particular pathogen so when you are infected your body already knows what to do to to combat it. The vaccine itself doesn't stay in your body for that long. Once your body starts to create antibodies its jobs pretty much done.

The level of immune response created by having the vaccine dictates how quickly your body will react which is what can prevent you feeling ill and transmitting the virus

@Baluchistan95

Interesting. I'm 57 and do not intend to take this experimental vaccine which is still on trial until 2023 and has only emergency approval. My concerns are the opposite of yours. Do I want to be around vaccinated people? I am reading a lot about the possibility of 'shedding' from those that have been vaccinated, which to be honest, scares me. However, my gut feeling is that I am not at any risk from the vaccinated.

Please don’t post crap like this. There is no covid virus in ANY of the vaccines used in the UK. And no risk of “shedding”.

OP, if you were an anti-vaxxer it would make me want to reevaluate our friendship and I don’t think I could spent time with you at all. But you’re clearly not an anti-vaxxer, and have anxiety issues, so no it wouldn’t bother me at all. I can understand why you are too nervous about getting your second dose, though I’m sad you feel that way.

Will not having the jab really help your anxiety?

tbh, if your anxiety is very present & public I might not be able to handle that (the anxiety I mean).

I don't choose who to associate with based on any jab status.

@Allmyarseandpeggymartin

Hang on a minute you have already started this thread in the coronavirus topic

I really wish there was just one pinned post on covid vaccines for everyone to use rather than starting a bunch of new ones every day. The pregnancy forum in particular is taken over with them.

Don't care, I haven't had my first jab yet due to age, so it would be pretty hypocritical.

At the moment I know the vaccination status of the people I'm likely to spend time with - just because it's come up in conversation with friends, colleagues etc., not because I've asked. Probably wouldn't really think about whether someone has had one or two jabs though.

Anyway I think as time goes on, especially if all restrictions are lifted next month, people will think less about this and no one will check if you've been vaccinated before meeting you!

I've had my vaccine to protect myself couldn't give a toss what anyone else decides to do and honestly anyone who tried to cut you off because of your "vaccine status" is not worth your time anyway, better off without

What is causing the anxiety with the Astrazeneca vaccine OP? Is it the risk of blood clots? That risk is absolutely miniscule. My concern with Astrazeneca would be its poor efficiency against the South African varient (just look at whats happening in Seychelles now) but it would still be far far better to have it than not.

@DogInATent

Have you considered how you will engage with booster vaccines for new and emerging variants in the future?

GP told me AZ won’t be used for boosters.

I’m not afraid of all vaccines, just the one that causes clots on the brain 😣

@shivawn

What is causing the anxiety with the Astrazeneca vaccine OP? Is it the risk of blood clots? That risk is absolutely miniscule. My concern with Astrazeneca would be its poor efficiency against the South African varient (just look at whats happening in Seychelles now) but it would still be far far better to have it than not.

@shivawn

Yes, it’s the blood clots. 😖

Don't get it. You are anxious about your health but you want to have less protection?

I wouldn't meet you indoors. I can't be effectively vaccinated due to medication so I'm accepting the risk from my school age dc and minimising the risk from anyone else.

@roseyroses even once fully vaccinated, we are still able to carry coronavirus and infect others (we just don’t personally get ill). People who say they don’t care are probably not aware of this...yet.

So no, I don’t want to socialise with semi-vaccinated or unvaccinated people because I might carry it home to my DC - who cannot be vaccinated.

Your choice if you want to be vaccinated ... but you need to tell people so they can make their own risk assessments.
Or you need to stay home.

I'm 55 and have had the 1 dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Yay!!

I've been into our little town shopping today and bumped into a couple of acquaintances and the first part of the convo was 'have you had your vaccine yet?'. It's all anyone talks about.

Luckily I don't think I know any anti-vaxxers personally but I wouldn't choose to spend any more time with them if they made their views known.

I think older adults have a responsibility to get vaccinated but I won't be expecting anyone under 25 to have the vaccine as they're generally less vulnerable to Covid complications.

@shivawn Totally and especially on this topic where we had at least one thread a day on.

At least Mumsnet have moved it to the coronavirus board.