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AZ - second dose clots, figures have almost doubled. I don’t want my second dose.

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Dishmatic · 20/05/2021 16:51

I had my first dose of AZ without any hesitation.

Due my second one next Friday and I honestly don’t know what to do.

32 but high BMI so was offered the vaccine earlier than my age group.

I understand the risk is small, but I just don’t think I can mentally cope with the anxiety and I feel like the four weeks after the vaccine are going to be unbearable anxiety.

France are now offering an alternate second dose if your first dose was AZ.
How likely are UK to do this?

OP posts:

friedafried · 20/05/2021 18:27

Last week it was 8 cases out of 7.5million. This week it’s 15 out 9million

It's still a lower risk than crossing roads or driving to get the vaccine.

Chloemol · 20/05/2021 18:34

It’s up to you, and only you

Have it, don’t have it, see your gp and see about getting another, but they all have side effects.

All are better than actually catching covid

Dementedswan · 20/05/2021 18:37

Look, have your vaccine or don't. It's personal choice. Endless threads on the same issue. Pfizer carries a risk of heart inflammation, that's not been splashed all over the media.

Full disclosure, I have anxiety, depression and I'm currently being treated. Believe me the news of the risks of vaccines scares me. But I pulled up my big girl pants and had my second dose of az last week.

I understand you are worried but at the moment mixing vaccine trials have not finished, who knows what side effects that can throw up once you start mass vaccinations? You are far better off completing your vaccine programme.

Tambora · 20/05/2021 18:42

I had my second dose the day before yesterday and the nurse told me that there is around one chance in a million of developing a blood clot due to the vaccine.

To put that into perspective, you are more likely to be struck by lightning.

bumhug · 20/05/2021 18:42

So 15 cases in 9,000,000 second doses.

You stand a 0.00016% chance of having a clot.

Spied · 20/05/2021 18:50

I have health anxiety and one of my anxieties surrounds taking medications.
I can understand somewhat how you are feeling.
I'll admit I wasn't skipping for joy going for my second AZ appointment like I was my first but I did go and I do think it's the right thing to do under the circumstances.
I'd much rather a second AZ than mixing vaccines where there are so many unknowns.
Keep vigilant and if you have any of the symptoms we're told to look out for then seek medical treatment (these clots don't mean a certain death).
You will be worried post vax as you are anxious now however what's the alternative? Spending the next few months worrying that you haven't had it?

Lightout · 20/05/2021 18:50

My friend and I had our first AZ vaccine on the same day.
I have lived to tell the tale, she didn’t, 😢
She got a blood clot and didn’t make it.

I too am petrified about getting second one, but I will get it.

My advice would be, to get the vaccine but if you have a headache. Please, please seek medical advice.
It doesn’t need to be an intensely painful headache either.

roguetomato · 20/05/2021 19:02

Another way to look at it is, with vaccine, you may be worried for while after taking it, but you know what to look out for, what sort of side effects can be dangerous. And it's not forever.
But if you don't get vaccinated, you need to worry if you may have caught covid or not everytime you feel ill. And with your bmi, you are more likely to be quite ill too.

DixonD · 20/05/2021 19:03

@Lightout

My friend and I had our first AZ vaccine on the same day. I have lived to tell the tale, she didn’t, 😢 She got a blood clot and didn’t make it.

I too am petrified about getting second one, but I will get it.

My advice would be, to get the vaccine but if you have a headache. Please, please seek medical advice.
It doesn’t need to be an intensely painful headache either.

That’s dreadful- I’m so sorry that happened to your friend.

OP, the JVCI are more likely to reverse the decision not to give the under 40s AZ than they are an alternative for your second. They have said all along that if you had AZ for your first, and you’re under 40, and had no serious effects, then to get it for your second.

Poptasmagorical · 20/05/2021 19:11

15 in 9million is 0.0002%

Tootsey11 · 20/05/2021 19:12

I believe the risk is now 1 in 40000.

Poptasmagorical · 20/05/2021 19:13

@Lightout

My friend and I had our first AZ vaccine on the same day. I have lived to tell the tale, she didn’t, 😢 She got a blood clot and didn’t make it.

I too am petrified about getting second one, but I will get it.

My advice would be, to get the vaccine but if you have a headache. Please, please seek medical advice.
It doesn’t need to be an intensely painful headache either.

I'm so so sorry to hear this but also really pleased for you that you're still protecting yourself and others with the second dose. I hope you're doing well.

Poptasmagorical · 20/05/2021 19:14

@Tootsey11

I believe the risk is now 1 in 40000.

How has it gone from 15 in 9 million to 1 in 40 thousand??

Summerfun54321 · 20/05/2021 19:22

I have a blood clot disorder and had my 2nd dose of AZ. Blood clots can be treatable if caught in time. Blood thinning medication treats them. I expect sadly the people who died from blood clots didn’t think to be seen or those treating them didn’t think to look out for clots. That’s the advice of thrombosis U.K. - now we know there’s a link, we’ll all be better off.

Dementedswan · 20/05/2021 19:22

@Tootsey11

I believe the risk is now 1 in 40000.

Where have you got that from?

SmallestInTheClass · 20/05/2021 19:23

The risk is low but you don't have to take it. Will your mind be more anxious worrying about catching Covid or worrying about vaccine side effects? I doubt you'll be offered a different vaccine second dose anytime soon.
Maybe think about it in the context of the risk of a high BMI. There is an interesting article on the BBC this week about 10,000 hospital admissions due to obesity last year and additional risks of Covid due to high BMI. Not to mention it increases risk of cancers. If it was me I would be more worried about that than the tiny blood clot risk from the vaccine. But that is only me, I'm not saying you should lose weight as I don't know your situation.

Dementedswan · 20/05/2021 19:28

I believe that you have to assess your own individual risk. I'm my case, my parents, dh parents are all over 70, they also have underlying conditions. Dh is type 1 diabetic, high bp and cholesterol. Me high bp, enlarged heart, psoriasis and mental illness.

We have two dc in primary, I believe the risks of covis are far greater to us than blood clots and there is a good chance that our dc will lose family members to this if unvaccinated. Dh out of all of us is the only only to have Pfizer, his blood sugars are very high, sometimes reading in mid 30's he barely sleeps constantly taking insulin and balancing his diabetes from the Pfizer jab.

MTwhyowhy · 20/05/2021 19:31

www.bitchute.com/video/9Ci2jK1yFoOd/

This most recent hour long video with dr Yeadon has me worried enough to hold fire and not rush in (not that I've been offered the first jab yet). He is highly qualified, ex big pharma and biotech ceo and rational and eloquent. Doesn't seem a nut job and seems well reasoned but has been slandered and deplatformed for asking reasonable questions. He makes some interesting points, particularly around immunity.

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whataballbag · 20/05/2021 19:32

@Tootsey11

I believe the risk is now 1 in 40000.

Is that for first doses?

myhobbyisouting · 20/05/2021 19:34

You have a BMI over 40 and you're considering actively putting yourself at risk of covid?

CharlotteRose90 · 20/05/2021 19:36

You can get a blood clot from various medications including the pill. Plus realistically if you caught one that’s ways to get rid of blood clots. Not all of them are death sentences.

katylees · 20/05/2021 19:39

@Lightout

My friend and I had our first AZ vaccine on the same day. I have lived to tell the tale, she didn’t, 😢 She got a blood clot and didn’t make it.

I too am petrified about getting second one, but I will get it.

My advice would be, to get the vaccine but if you have a headache. Please, please seek medical advice.
It doesn’t need to be an intensely painful headache either.

How old was your friend that died due to the AZ vaccine if you don't mind me asking?

Hallyup6 · 20/05/2021 19:42

Look carefully at what you've just written. 15 out of 9 MILLION. And that's 15 blood clots, not 15 deaths.

Second dose v no second dose? No brainer to me (and yes, I'm in the same position as you).

knittingaddict · 20/05/2021 19:43

Because understanding the worry and explaining the facts is more effective than making people feel like crap.

That's rarely on option on threads like this. There have been tens, possibly hundreds of threads like this. The op will not be swayed by information or logic. That's not why they are here.

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